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Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: December 27, 2017 at 03:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/honest-question.72039/
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In the jff’s opinion what’s the most impressive thing you can accomplish here? See at first glance one would assume titles. However in light of the fact you just need one streak to earn a title then don’t even have to successfully defend it I’m starting to lean in favor of consistently winning over an extended period of time plus win percentage. As we have seen with the initial development stages of my newer JFF rankings and matchmaking system the brass openly admits they want it so anyone can come off the street and put a streak together and win a title. Now I’m not asking to debate the merits of that system. I’m asking what do the general population of the JFF think is the most impressive thing or things to accomplish here?
 
Originally posted by: BanditCountry
Date: December 27, 2017 at 03:40 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/honest-question.72039/
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Gibbs getting his excuses in early for when I smash him saturday night.
"But...but...muh win percentage!"
 
Originally posted by: Slingshot
Date: December 27, 2017 at 03:47 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/honest-question.72039/
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I believe there is many things that can be deemed as awesome accomplishments. The problem is the lack of promotion of these awards. For example, the champions league concept is amazing and should be viewed as the years top accomplishment. However, very few even know who wins this stuff because it's all secluded to one thread. When we hit the playoffs, there should be separate threads made so it's constant reminder for all of us that the particular event is suppose to mean something special and make us want to see who won these events. Just my two cents and now I'll go back to being a company man for the JFF. You're doing a great job Strez and CD
 
Originally posted by: Holeydel
Date: December 27, 2017 at 04:33 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/honest-question.72039/
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Personally I think the GP & team GP titles would fetch the most bread from a pawnbroker, just one chance a year to get one of those shiny things.
An individual title not so much, however if you have a collection of these then it looks pretty good.
 
Originally posted by: maggotbrain
Date: December 27, 2017 at 05:20 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/honest-question.72039/
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Holeydel said:
Personally I think the GP & team GP titles would fetch the most bread from a pawnbroker, just one chance a year to get one of those shiny things.
An individual title not so much, however if you have a collection of these then it looks pretty good.
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What about Fantasy Fighting World Cups?
It was like the top 131 guys from like 4 sites did a complete Euro football style World Cup.
Whoever won that gotta be a bad mutha ducks, right?
 
Originally posted by: Slingshot
Date: December 27, 2017 at 06:06 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/honest-question.72039/
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maggotbrain said:
What about Fantasy Fighting World Cups?
It was like the top 131 guys from like 4 sites did a complete Euro football style World Cup.
Whoever won that gotta be a bad mutha ducks, right?
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It was until we learned the winner of that cup fought under 56 different names.
 
Originally posted by: trubs
Date: December 27, 2017 at 06:16 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/honest-question.72039/
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So in Gibbs' mind a winning streak leading to a winning title fight in the worlds greatest fantasy league is just not quite as impressive as him going win, win, loss, win, loss, win, win,loss over an extended period of time.
Think about that for a second.
Win, loss, win, win, loss. win, loss.
Repeat for an extended period of time as you try for a title but just can never do it but have a decent winning percentage.
That's more impressive to him.
This is the mindset of a loser.
That's the only honest answer I can give to your honest question.
 
Originally posted by: maggotbrain
Date: December 27, 2017 at 06:23 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/honest-question.72039/
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Slingshot said:
It was until we learned the winner of that cup fought under 56 different names.
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Nope, I never hid my other accounts as odiskunk, MrWiggles, maggotbrain or LoudenSwain. I never fought on one site with more than one name.....NEVER. Any second account on one site has only been used for trolling purposes. That’s a fact.
Besides still like a 76 person GP if true
 
Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: December 27, 2017 at 06:41 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/honest-question.72039/
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BanditCountry said:
Gibbs getting his excuses in early for when I smash him saturday night.
"But...but...muh win percentage!"
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Lol are we fighting?
 
Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: December 27, 2017 at 06:42 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/honest-question.72039/
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troubleshooting said:
So in Gibbs' mind a winning streak leading to a winning title fight in the worlds greatest fantasy league is just not quite as impressive as him going win, win, loss, win, loss, win, win,loss over an extended period of time.
Think about that for a second.
Win, loss, win, win, loss. win, loss.
Repeat for an extended period of time as you try for a title but just can never do it but have a decent winning percentage.
That's more impressive to him.
This is the mindset of a loser.
That's the only honest answer I can give to your honest question.
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What’s more impressive a guy who’s 11-4 or a guy who is 7-8 but won his last 6? Factor in the 11-4 guy is probably mainly fighting main card fights. Because this situation happens often when you get a dominate champion. I’m not even talking about myself.
 
Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: December 27, 2017 at 06:44 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/honest-question.72039/
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Slingshot said:
I believe there is many things that can be deemed as awesome accomplishments. The problem is the lack of promotion of these awards. For example, the champions league concept is amazing and should be viewed as the years top accomplishment. However, very few even know who wins this stuff because it's all secluded to one thread. When we hit the playoffs, there should be separate threads made so it's constant reminder for all of us that the particular event is suppose to mean something special and make us want to see who won these events. Just my two cents and now I'll go back to being a company man for the JFF. You're doing a great job Strez and CD
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Holeydel said:
Personally I think the GP & team GP titles would fetch the most bread from a pawnbroker, just one chance a year to get one of those shiny things.
An individual title not so much, however if you have a collection of these then it looks pretty good.
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Agree these two especially champion league should be highly considered. Single elimination Grand Prix are a rare title
 
Originally posted by: trubs
Date: December 27, 2017 at 06:55 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/honest-question.72039/
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Gibbs said:
What’s more impressive a guy who’s 11-4 or a guy who is 7-8 but won his last 6? Factor in the 11-4 guy is probably mainly fighting main card fights. Because this situation happens often when you get a dominate champion. I’m not even talking about myself.
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The guy that beat the champion.
The guy that holds the thing that every fighter aims for.
I've never heard any athlete in any sport say "Just having a winning record is more important than an actual championship."
It's pretty ridiculous.
If you are "consistently winning over an extended period of time plus win percentage" like you say, then one would expect a championship mixed in there somewhere. No?
If not, then you are what is known as a "choke artist" in my world.
Certainly not "more impressive".
 
Originally posted by: maggotbrain
Date: December 27, 2017 at 07:09 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/honest-question.72039/
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troubleshooting said:
The guy that beat the champion.
The guy that holds the thing that every fighter aims for.
I've never heard any athlete in any sport say "Just having a winning record is more important than an actual championship."
It's pretty ridiculous.
If you are "consistently winning over an extended period of time plus win percentage" like you say, then one would expect a championship mixed in there somewhere. No?
If not, then you are what is known as a "choke artist" in my world.
Certainly not "more impressive".
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#4x
 
Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: December 27, 2017 at 08:24 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/honest-question.72039/
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troubleshooting said:
The guy that beat the champion.
The guy that holds the thing that every fighter aims for.
I've never heard any athlete in any sport say "Just having a winning record is more important than an actual championship."
It's pretty ridiculous.
If you are "consistently winning over an extended period of time plus win percentage" like you say, then one would expect a championship mixed in there somewhere. No?
If not, then you are what is known as a "choke artist" in my world.
Certainly not "more impressive".
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Well this comes back to the current system then. It’s easy to get contenders fights. It’s not fair to guys who are consistently top fighters sitting in the main card facing tougher opponents and thus having a higher probability of losing before they put a streak together. It would be better for them to lose a few. Get off the main card can crush and then just need 1 main card win to contend. If you don’t think people are doing this then you’re wrong. Hell I took a slump dropped off the main card and did exactly that in order to contend. I notice you avoided my question. It’s easy to go 11-4 when you’re on a main card a bunch contending and losing to either a dominate champ or maincard/contender fights. While some one else can be 6-9 in their last 15 but got 2/3 wins against cans before hitting the main card and then getting their next 3 to number 1 contend or title fight. In fact we’ve had 4 examples of this in the last 3 months. So That’s my point? You don’t put any stock in consistently winning over long periods of time and care more about hitting a streak that could be a lot of luck and timing?
 
Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: December 27, 2017 at 08:29 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/honest-question.72039/
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maggotbrain said:
#4x
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This brings me back to my last point about pick style. I have what I call a ball control style of picks I don’t usually get blown out. But I tend to win most my matches closer. Now this works for me cause I can spend 15-30 min doing my picks obviously when I sit and spend an hour or 2 or a whole week in-depth training my picks are generally some of the best. Now I win significantly more than I lose however because of my pick style I drop fights I shouldn’t. As I was saying in the other thread. So this doesn’t even apply to me as @troubleshooting and @banditcountry think. However there are numerous fighters who are very streaky as opposed to fighters who consistently win 5/7 Match ups.
For example if someone is winning 5/7 match ups in any other sport they would be a top contender. Look at basketball, baseball, football, or hell even mma. However in this sport it seems like no one cares about being consistently good. That’s my point. It’s almost better to generally suck then go all out for a month or two win a title then go back to sucking after you lose because taking one loss overrides anything else you do.
 
Originally posted by: Strez
Date: December 28, 2017 at 12:20 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/honest-question.72039/
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Winning titles trumps all. (See what I did their mein fuhrer @troubleshooting) Make JUF great again
Being consistently ok is pointless if it never leads to an actual accomplishment
 
Originally posted by: Trig
Date: December 28, 2017 at 05:33 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/honest-question.72039/
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troubleshooting said:
The guy that beat the champion.
The guy that holds the thing that every fighter aims for.
I've never heard any athlete in any sport say "Just having a winning record is more important than an actual championship."
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Only Gibbs and Dan Marino
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Originally posted by: Trig
Date: December 28, 2017 at 05:39 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/honest-question.72039/
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Gibbs said:
For example if someone is winning 5/7 match ups in any other sport they would be a top contender. .
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not true look at Yushin Okami he went 13-5 in the UFC and was cut after losing one fight right after winning 3 in a row. He beat some damn good fighters but he was cut because he was never going to be anything more than a gate keeper.
 
Originally posted by: Gibbs
Date: December 28, 2017 at 05:55 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/honest-question.72039/
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trig said:
not true look at Yushin Okami he went 13-5 in the UFC and was cut after losing one fight right after winning 3 in a row. He beat some damn good fighters but he was cut because he was never going to be anything more than a gate keeper.
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I think that’s the exception to the norm. How about clay guida
 
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