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He's definitely on the spectrum. His autism seems to be a super power for him when climbing.
I'm not super knowledgeable about climbing, but could you explain why? I can't imagine anything that could compare to that individual achievement.
Note that I didn't say he was the best climber ever, I said that was the single greatest individual achievement ever.
Tito Orcheese
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There's plenty of names out there that have done great things in the world of rock climbing. Some names might be better at one thing, some might be better at a lot of things, some might be more active, but Honnold's 4-hr, 3000ft ascent of El Capitan with no safety gear is the single most impressive feat in rock climbing as of now.
I will say ice climbing does get a mf some major props as well. Fuck that shit.
Tito Orcheese
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He has a lot of first ascents and first solo ascents (still uses safety gear but no climbing partner). He also did a shit-ton of ice climbing, which is generally more dangerous. He died during a climb.
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Speaking of achievements, you know you've crushed your fiber+protein goal when you take a shit so rancid the dog won't even come in the bathroom.
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The problem is defining "athlete".
Is Qawnuhr a good "athlete?"
Absolutely not.
We seen him try to frow a fewtball.
Decent fighter, tho.
Being good at a singular sport doesn't equal "athleticism" in my book.
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Itsy Bitsy Tiny Weiner
Cool.. Tell me more about how you don't know anything about tennis.
376 combined titles..
.those aren't randos.I'm I'm not sure what you mean Venus Williams and Sharapova weren't athletic?...ffs
Doubted
Modern day ? Lol.Amanda IS one of the greatest martial artists What the f*** are you smoking?
She's the female goat of MMA for f*** sake
Who the hell do you think was the demonstraably lower competition either Amanda or Serena faced in comparison to other era's That's half of a non sequitur because the lioness WSS in the modern era of women's MMA.
No s*** Sherlock It was a dude versus a chick for f*** sake.
She WAS One of the greatest female athletes of all time I don't have to argue that.
But she was also one of the greatest athletes of all time.
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I mean to be fair put Michael Jordan OR Muhammad Ali on the goddamn tennis court with her and see how they do.
Wrong and wrong. Is she faced not only the best of her era but some of the best of all time not just in her country but worldwide.
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Alex Honnold has routinely praised the late Canadian alpinist Marc-André Leclerc, calling him a personal inspiration and the climber who has impressed him the most.
It's also worth pointing out that Mark Andre died while descending a successful climb He did not fall He was trapped in an avalanche from above I believe his body still hangs on the side of the mountain today.
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K, so you typed all this out to prove the exact point I just made.Cool.. Tell me more about how you don't know anything about tennis.
376 combined titles..
I'm I'm not sure what you mean Venus Williams and Sharapova weren't athletic?...ffs
Doubted
Modern day ? Lol.Amanda IS one of the greatest martial artists What the f*** are you smoking?
She's the female goat of MMA for f*** sake
Who the hell do you think was the demonstraably lower competition either Amanda or Serena faced in comparison to other era's That's half of a non sequitur because the lioness WSS in the modern era of women's MMA.
No s*** Sherlock It was a dude versus a chick for f*** sake.
She WAS One of the greatest female athletes of all time I don't have to argue that.
But she was also one of the greatest athletes of all time.
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I mean to be fair put Michael Jordan OR Muhammad Ali on the goddamn tennis court with her and see how they do.
Wrong and wrong. Is she faced not only the best of her era but some of the best of all time not just in her country but worldwide.
SHES NOT THE GREATEST ATHLETE BECAUSE, AS HAS BEEN PROVEN TIME AND AGAIN, WOMEN ARE NATURALLY NOT AS ATHLETIC AS MALES. SO THEREFORE, SHE CANT BE ON THE MOUNT RUSHMORE OF GREATEST ATHLETES.
Greatest FEMALE athletes? Sure. Greatest athletes, no. Because she's played fucking JV ball her whole career in comparison to the athletic competition the greatest male athletes have faced. It's a pretty simple point, and even someone as simple as you should be able to wrap their pin head around it.
Cry harder about it and go jack another load into your Serena sock, it doesn't change the facts.
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Itsy Bitsy Tiny Weiner
Climbing just rocks was simple s*** to mark Andre... Free soloing ice is f****** crazy as s*** and takes way more skill and balls.
Alex is great but he is nowhere near as good as Mark Andre was.
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Also it's worth pointing out that Mark Andre did not die in a fall Mark Andre died while descending in an avalanche from above.
Tito Orcheese
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He was a very impressive climber. I'm just saying that Honnold's free solo is the single most impressive feat.
I also really liked watching Tommy Caldwell and Kevin Jorgeson's free climb of the "Dawn Wall" route on El Capitan. Obviously not a "free solo" as that would mean certain death; there is a pitch where you have to literally jump to a small-ass finger hold. They spend a couple days on that pitch, iirc. Good shit.
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Tito Orcheese
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It takes way more balls, but, most of the time, you're digging in boot spikes and ice picks and climbing up. Sure, hopefully that shit holds, but the miniscule finger and toe holds you have work with on big-wall rock climbing can be equally as impressive.
Don't get me wrong, I give props to all these crazy fuckers.
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Itsy Bitsy Tiny Weiner
Sez the guy who called Venus Williams a "Rando" ?
Lol.
Ugh..wrong again.
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It depends on what sport my friend.
Long-Distance & Ultra-Running: In multi-day and 200+ mile foot races, female athletes routinely outperform male competitors. Pam Reed achieved this by becoming the overall winner of the grueling 135-mile Badwater Ultramarathon in both 2002 and 2003
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Open-Water Swimming: In ultra-marathon swims, such as crossing the English Channel or the 20-mile California-to-Catalina swim, women have repeatedly posted faster all-time records than the closest men. This is largely due to body composition, buoyancy, and efficient pacing
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- Shooting & Precision Sports: In events emphasizing fine-motor control, breath, and focus, women frequently outperform men. At the 1992 Barcelona Olympics, for example, Chinese shotgun shooter Zhang Shan made history by winning the gold medal—and setting an Olympic record—in the mixed-gender skeet shooting event. [1, 2, 3]
- Ultra-Cycling: In extreme multi-day endurance cycling, women have directly competed against and defeated hundreds of men. In 2019, Fiona Kolbinger won the Transcontinental Race, cycling 4,000 kilometers across Europe and beating over 200 male participants in the process. [1]
- Historical Exhibitions: Early female athletes frequently bested men in public
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The list goes on....
I get that your really ON the male vs female aspect of this.
But when talking about athletic piers it's tough to say that Serena had any that reached her peak and even someone as simple as you should be able to wrap their pin head around it.
Gawddamn
This^^ is why we can't have nice things for f*** sake.
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