3 fighters unable to make weight for UFC on FOX 8

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Desalvatore
Date: July 26, 2013 at 08:56 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/3-fighters-unable-to-make-weight-for-ufc-on-fox-8.56701/

Jorge Masvidal, Tim Means, and John Albert didn't make the cut.
I have a feeling someone might be getting if they lose, I know Dana usually goes nuts about fighters not making weight, let alone three in one card.
"A total of three fighters missed weight on their first attempts.
Jorge Masvidal
was 157.5 for his lightweight fight against
Michael Chiesa
, who was 155.5. Masvidal reportedly petitioned the Washington commission on Friday to have Chiesa shave his beard – then missed weight. He was given two hours to shed to a maximum of 156 pounds, but ultimately elected to not cut the additional weight and surrenders 20 percent of his fight purse to Chiesa.
Tim Means
was 160 for his lightweight fight against
Danny Castillo
. And bantamweight
John Albert
came in a pound heavy at 137 for his fight against
Yaotzin Meza
to open the prelims. The Washington commission initially told MMAjunkie.com neither Means nor Albert would cut additional weight and each would forfeit 20 percent of their fight purses to their opponents. Means, however, did return to make a second attempt at the weight – but still was over and began rehydrating after his second try."

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: mabrown45
Date: July 26, 2013 at 09:00 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/3-fighters-unable-to-make-weight-for-ufc-on-fox-8.56701/

Dana must livid

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Spidy
Date: July 26, 2013 at 10:21 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/3-fighters-unable-to-make-weight-for-ufc-on-fox-8.56701/

This would NEVER happen in the toughest tournament in sports..

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: FlipMMA
Date: July 26, 2013 at 10:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/3-fighters-unable-to-make-weight-for-ufc-on-fox-8.56701/

Means and Masvidal took their fights on short notice. Albert has no excuse.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MMAwarrior101
Date: July 26, 2013 at 10:54 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/3-fighters-unable-to-make-weight-for-ufc-on-fox-8.56701/

Masvidal shouldn't have an excuse either. He took the fight in May.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: abc0331
Date: July 26, 2013 at 10:55 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/3-fighters-unable-to-make-weight-for-ufc-on-fox-8.56701/

I can see Masvidal on his way out with a loss.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ScreamBloodyGordon
Date: July 26, 2013 at 11:24 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/3-fighters-unable-to-make-weight-for-ufc-on-fox-8.56701/

Masvidal isnt exactly a huge LW either.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: darcebandit
Date: July 26, 2013 at 11:45 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/3-fighters-unable-to-make-weight-for-ufc-on-fox-8.56701/

Masvidal made weight on second attempt. Where did you get this quote?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Desalvatore
Date: July 27, 2013 at 02:09 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/3-fighters-unable-to-make-weight-for-ufc-on-fox-8.56701/

darcebandit said:
Masvidal made weight on second attempt. Where did you get this quote?
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I got it from MMA Junkie right before I posted the thread. I'm glad he actually made weight

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: GirlPower
Date: July 27, 2013 at 06:34 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/3-fighters-unable-to-make-weight-for-ufc-on-fox-8.56701/

WOW! Never heard of this before.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: phoenix-mma
Date: July 27, 2013 at 09:28 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/3-fighters-unable-to-make-weight-for-ufc-on-fox-8.56701/

Just waiting for the first time a female misses weight and all the wmma haters can say what an embarrassment they are to the sport.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Koos
Date: July 27, 2013 at 10:34 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/3-fighters-unable-to-make-weight-for-ufc-on-fox-8.56701/

I will never understand this at this level of the sport. Weight and cardio are two things that are totally in control of the fighter. If fighting is what you want to do for a living then those two things should NEVER be out of check.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Spud
Date: July 27, 2013 at 10:41 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/3-fighters-unable-to-make-weight-for-ufc-on-fox-8.56701/

Koos said:
I will never understand this at this level of the sport. Weight and cardio are two things that are totally in control of the fighter. If fighting is what you want to do for a living then those two things should NEVER be out of check.
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Sometimes the weight cut just goes wrong. Cutting weight isn't as simple as it seems.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: BigSexyVreeland
Date: July 27, 2013 at 12:27 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/3-fighters-unable-to-make-weight-for-ufc-on-fox-8.56701/

Spud said:
Sometimes the weight cut just goes wrong. Cutting weight isn't as simple as it seems.
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I agree with this. As someone who's been through weight cuts for tournaments, sometimes your weight just doesn't go down like you think it will. It feels like there is no rhyme or reason to it at times. And I'm sure these guys are cutting a hell of a lot more than me.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: magnuml
Date: July 27, 2013 at 12:51 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/3-fighters-unable-to-make-weight-for-ufc-on-fox-8.56701/

Koos said:
I will never understand this at this level of the sport. Weight and cardio are two things that are totally in control of the fighter. If fighting is what you want to do for a living then those two things should NEVER be out of check.
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I Totally Agree! But Too many fighters are cutting 25 to 40 pounds for weight ins and I just think that is wrong. I have trained and fought and it puzzles me how you can train basically year round and be in great shape at say 170 training and then a couple days out dehydrate yourself to 155.5 because you want to fight at LW so you can have a size advantage. So many people do it in the UFC that anyone that wants to make it has to learn to do the same. Look at how many fighters started out at one weight class and have dropped to another to improve their career because they were out sized against people that weighed the same as them at weigh ins. hell look at Anthony Johnson, fought as low as 170 in the UFC and struggled and since has fought as high as HW at 230 pounds. Basically looking the same doing it and was still in shape. Fighting Mike Pyle another one that is a real HW and doing it at 205. Why did they fight each other at LHW ?
If they started making fighters be with in 10 or 15 pounds" Below the next weight class" on fight night from weigh ins you would see fighters in every weight class having to move up, some waaaaaay up and it would totally change every weight class from top to bottom and the rankings.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: BigSexyVreeland
Date: July 27, 2013 at 12:55 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/3-fighters-unable-to-make-weight-for-ufc-on-fox-8.56701/

magnuml said:
I Totally Agree! But Too many fighters are cutting 25 to 40 pounds for weight ins and I just think that is wrong. I have trained and fought and it puzzles me how you can train basically year round and be in great shape at say 170 training and then a couple days out dehydrate yourself to 155.5 because you want to fight at LW so you can have a size advantage. So many people do it in the UFC that anyone that wants to make it has to learn to do the same. Look at how many fighters started out at one weight class and have dropped to another to improve their career because they were out sized against people that weighed the same as them at weigh ins. hell look at Anthony Johnson, fought as low as 170 in the UFC and struggled and since has fought as high as HW at 230 pounds. Basically looking the same doing it and was still in shape. Fighting Mike Pyle another one that is a real HW and doing it at 205. Why did they fight each other at LHW ?
If they started making fighters be with in 10 or 15 pounds" Below the next weight class" on fight night from weigh ins you would see fighters in every weight class having to move up, some waaaaaay up and it would totally change every weight class from top to bottom and the rankings.
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I definitely understand what you're saying, but now we're talking about a complete over haul of MMA and combat sports as we know them. It would have been nice if people considered this when the original rules were falling into place, but to change it now would be too much.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: meundies
Date: July 27, 2013 at 05:23 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/3-fighters-unable-to-make-weight-for-ufc-on-fox-8.56701/

Albert getting cut now for sure.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: magnuml
Date: July 27, 2013 at 07:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/3-fighters-unable-to-make-weight-for-ufc-on-fox-8.56701/

BigSexyVreeland said:
I definitely understand what you're saying, but now we're talking about a complete over haul of MMA and combat sports as we know them. It would have been nice if people considered this when the original rules were falling into place, but to change it now would be too much.
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I agree with what you have said, But I think it would effect mostly the UFC. Other combat sports and organizations don't seem to have these issues. granted the UFC is the biggest organization in MMA.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Brick
Date: July 28, 2013 at 01:03 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/3-fighters-unable-to-make-weight-for-ufc-on-fox-8.56701/

Spidy said:
This would NEVER happen in the toughest tournament in sports..
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'cause they don't test for 'roids and diurietics, lol

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Spud
Date: July 28, 2013 at 09:14 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/3-fighters-unable-to-make-weight-for-ufc-on-fox-8.56701/

Brick said:
'cause they don't test for 'roids and diurietics, lol
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And in the States, neither do the UFC.