Alistair's Contract situation?

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Fedorfan
Date: February 13, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alistairs-contract-situation.10489/

I'm really interested in seeing Alistair fight for the UFC, but I know he's also the Strikeforce HW champ, so does that mean he's signed and tied up with Strikeforce and will be fighting with them exclusively or is he not under contract with Strikeforce anymore? Anyone know his contract situation?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: February 13, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alistairs-contract-situation.10489/

I believe, and somebody might have better info, is that his Strikeforce contract has run out and that he is tentatively a free agent and has been in beginning talks with both Affliction and the UFC. Although he could sign with Strikeforce they don't really have the competition level in the HW class that Overeem is likely looking for.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Fedorfan
Date: February 13, 2009 at 11:11 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alistairs-contract-situation.10489/

Jak said:
I believe, and somebody might have better info, is that his Strikeforce contract has run out and that he is tentatively a free agent and has been in beginning talks with both Affliction and the UFC. Although he could sign with Strikeforce they don't really have the competition level in the HW class that Overeem is likely looking for.
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Awesome! I really think he will be a great addition to the UFC if he joins with them

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ACOGSCOPE
Date: February 13, 2009 at 12:05 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alistairs-contract-situation.10489/

Jak said:
I believe, and somebody might have better info, is that his Strikeforce contract has run out and that he is tentatively a free agent and has been in beginning talks with both Affliction and the UFC. Although he could sign with Strikeforce they don't really have the competition level in the HW class that Overeem is likely looking for.
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Well we did see him at the last PPV in Ireland last month.
We did hear how both DW and Affliction was trying to bag him.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Fedorfan
Date: February 13, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alistairs-contract-situation.10489/

I think it would be a huge grab if the UFC picks up Alistair. He will literally be the only UFC HW with as much muscle/height/weight combination to give Brock a run for his money IMO

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Moranis
Date: February 13, 2009 at 01:02 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alistairs-contract-situation.10489/

sho89mtx said:
I think it would be a huge grab if the UFC picks up Alistair. He will literally be the only UFC HW with as much muscle/height/weight combination to give Brock a run for his money IMO
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come on he was dominated by a lot of LHW's not that long ago. I realize he is on a decent win streak, but Shogun put a beat down on him two years ago (and the way people talk about Shogun on this site, that must be like one of the worst losses in history). He would be a nice addition to any promotion, but he is no where near the top of the HW division.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: iowaFightFan
Date: February 13, 2009 at 01:04 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alistairs-contract-situation.10489/

sho89mtx said:
I think it would be a huge grab if the UFC picks up Alistair. He will literally be the only UFC HW with as much muscle/height/weight combination to give Brock a run for his money IMO
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I agree.
This guy became my hero when he knocked Badr Hari out in K-1!! I used to like Hari, but after his constant show of poor sportsmanship, his trash talking abould whipping any MMA Fighter's *** in K-1 rules (which Alistair proved wrong) and then his dirty tactics in the K-1 Grand Prix Finals.........I just want to see people beat the hell out of him now!! :twisted:

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Mas-
Date: February 13, 2009 at 01:05 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alistairs-contract-situation.10489/

If he wants money than we will see him at Affliction if he wants fame and to put on good fights we will see him at UFC.
It is up to him now.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: February 13, 2009 at 01:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alistairs-contract-situation.10489/

Moranis said:
sho89mtx said:
I think it would be a huge grab if the UFC picks up Alistair. He will literally be the only UFC HW with as much muscle/height/weight combination to give Brock a run for his money IMO
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come on he was dominated by a lot of LHW's not that long ago. I realize he is on a decent win streak, but Shogun put a beat down on him two years ago (and the way people talk about Shogun on this site, that must be like one of the worst losses in history). He would be a nice addition to any promotion, but he is no where near the top of the HW division.
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Overeem has pretty much been reborn in the HW division. I think he's improved drastically since his early days at LHW. Plus the HW division isn't nearly has stacked as the LHW division. Now he also has a size and strength advantage on most guys and may be one of the best if not the best HW strikers at this point. We shall see when he starts fighting top competition. He also has some decent subs.
People on this site are fickle so of course they are jumping off of the Shogun bandwagon after his lackluster performances....needless to say he's had some injury set backs. I think we'll see the old shogun against Liddell.....and people will be huggin' his nuts again.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: February 13, 2009 at 02:54 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alistairs-contract-situation.10489/

Moranis said:
sho89mtx said:
I think it would be a huge grab if the UFC picks up Alistair. He will literally be the only UFC HW with as much muscle/height/weight combination to give Brock a run for his money IMO
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come on he was dominated by a lot of LHW's not that long ago. I realize he is on a decent win streak, but Shogun put a beat down on him two years ago (and the way people talk about Shogun on this site, that must be like one of the worst losses in history). He would be a nice addition to any promotion, but he is no where near the top of the HW division.
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Dude, shogun was putting beatings on everyone in that time, I guess rampage must suck also since shogun not only put a beating on him, he totally destroyed him, even worst than wandy did.... Alistar with the ammount of muscles he has put on, really is a huge problem to anyone, he's a hell of a striker, and now he's got the reach, size, muscle and power advantage over almost all of his opponents... I trully dont see him beating Brock, his tallor made for Brock, but I dont either see any other HW in the UFC beating him either, may be Mir and Velesquez in a future...

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Ace23
Date: February 13, 2009 at 02:57 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alistairs-contract-situation.10489/

I thought his contract with Strikeforce was 1 fight deal at a time.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: February 13, 2009 at 03:15 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alistairs-contract-situation.10489/

and I thought he was the LHW champ, not the HW... right or wrong?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Ace23
Date: February 13, 2009 at 03:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alistairs-contract-situation.10489/

I think he only fights at HW now, he has just got to big to make 205 I think, but I could be wrong.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Moranis
Date: February 13, 2009 at 03:42 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alistairs-contract-situation.10489/

Sedulous said:
Moranis said:
sho89mtx said:
I think it would be a huge grab if the UFC picks up Alistair. He will literally be the only UFC HW with as much muscle/height/weight combination to give Brock a run for his money IMO
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come on he was dominated by a lot of LHW's not that long ago. I realize he is on a decent win streak, but Shogun put a beat down on him two years ago (and the way people talk about Shogun on this site, that must be like one of the worst losses in history). He would be a nice addition to any promotion, but he is no where near the top of the HW division.
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Overeem has pretty much been reborn in the HW division. I think he's improved drastically since his early days at LHW. Plus the HW division isn't nearly has stacked as the LHW division. Now he also has a size and strength advantage on most guys and may be one of the best if not the best HW strikers at this point. We shall see when he starts fighting top competition. He also has some decent subs.
People on this site are fickle so of course they are jumping off of the Shogun bandwagon after his lackluster performances....needless to say he's had some injury set backs. I think we'll see the old shogun against Liddell.....and people will be huggin' his nuts again.
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reborn fighting mid-level fighters at best. Overeem isn't drastically better now than he was 2 years ago when Shogun dominated him or 16 months ago when Sergei Kharitonov knocked him out, he just isn't. Since his loss to Sergei he has beaten Paul Buentello, Tae Hyun Lee, Mark Hunt (by submission), and Gary Goodridge with the no contest with Mirko mixed in. I'm sorry, but any credible HW would have beaten those guys rather handidly.
Overeem is not a top ten HW until he actually beats top ten HW's.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: February 13, 2009 at 03:45 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alistairs-contract-situation.10489/

Moranis said:
Moranis said:
sho89mtx said:
I think it would be a huge grab if the UFC picks up Alistair. He will literally be the only UFC HW with as much muscle/height/weight combination to give Brock a run for his money IMO
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come on he was dominated by a lot of LHW's not that long ago. I realize he is on a decent win streak, but Shogun put a beat down on him two years ago (and the way people talk about Shogun on this site, that must be like one of the worst losses in history). He would be a nice addition to any promotion, but he is no where near the top of the HW division.
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Overeem has pretty much been reborn in the HW division. I think he's improved drastically since his early days at LHW. Plus the HW division isn't nearly has stacked as the LHW division. Now he also has a size and strength advantage on most guys and may be one of the best if not the best HW strikers at this point. We shall see when he starts fighting top competition. He also has some decent subs.
People on this site are fickle so of course they are jumping off of the Shogun bandwagon after his lackluster performances....needless to say he's had some injury set backs. I think we'll see the old shogun against Liddell.....and people will be huggin' his nuts again.
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reborn fighting mid-level fighters at best. Overeem isn't drastically better now than he was 2 years ago when Shogun dominated him or 16 months ago when Sergei Kharitonov knocked him out, he just isn't. Since his loss to Sergei he has beaten Paul Buentello, Tae Hyun Lee, Mark Hunt (by submission), and Gary Goodridge with the no contest with Mirko mixed in. I'm sorry, but any credible HW would have beaten those guys rather handidly.
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dude, you keep on coming with the shogun crap... and now sergei? what's wrong with loosing to sergei? he's a beast. Anyway, you are partly right, Those names arent very impressive, though the way he beat them was. By the way I will throw that k-1 kick *** beating he put on Hari there two... I think that was really impressive.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bdmcleod
Date: February 13, 2009 at 03:46 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alistairs-contract-situation.10489/

The fact that he just owned an elite K1 fighter standing means more to me than a few losses a few years ago.
I'd love to see how he does against some top HW's. AA would be an interesting fight to watch. I want to see a CroCop rematch. And why not throw him in there against Fedor? There really is no one else for Fedor to beat except for Barnett.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: February 13, 2009 at 03:50 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alistairs-contract-situation.10489/

bdmcleod said:
The fact that he just owned an elite K1 fighter standing means more to me than a few losses a few years ago.
I'd love to see how he does against some top HW's. AA would be an interesting fight to watch. I want to see a CroCop rematch. And why not throw him in there against Fedor? There really is no one else for Fedor to beat except for Barnett.
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for the haters, there will always be one left... eventhough if fedor cleans the whole division, and that includes Brock,Mir, and Overeem, and lets suppous he loses to Cain in 2 more years, haters will be all around the forum saying TOLD YOU! FEDOR WAS OVERRATED!!! He always sucked, he never faced any tru competition! etc etc etc...

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Fedorfan
Date: February 13, 2009 at 03:54 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alistairs-contract-situation.10489/

Moranis said:
Overeem is not a top ten HW until he actually beats top ten HW's.
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He's definately a top 10 HW in the UFC IMO. Name 5 people that can beat him right now? He is a completely different fighter at heavyweight and is a lot bigger with a lot more skills. You have to remember most people predicted he was gonna get murdered in that K-1 fight and in fact it was Overeem that did the murdering! He's a bad, bad man! I think it would take a very top level MMA HW to beat him in the UFC or one with a crazy ground game like Big nog has. I really hope he gets in the UFC now because on the boards, there is a lot of doubt about him and I can't wait until he proves everyone wrong

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: bdmcleod
Date: February 13, 2009 at 04:00 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alistairs-contract-situation.10489/

bjj_rage said:
bdmcleod said:
The fact that he just owned an elite K1 fighter standing means more to me than a few losses a few years ago.
I'd love to see how he does against some top HW's. AA would be an interesting fight to watch. I want to see a CroCop rematch. And why not throw him in there against Fedor? There really is no one else for Fedor to beat except for Barnett.
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for the haters, there will always be one left... eventhough if fedor cleans the whole division, and that includes Brock,Mir, and Overeem, and lets suppous he loses to Cain in 2 more years, haters will be all around the forum saying TOLD YOU! FEDOR WAS OVERRATED!!! He always sucked, he never faced any tru competition! etc etc etc...
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I'm not saying Fedor isn't going to beat Barnett. I didn't say he wouldnt beat AA,Sylvia, or anyone else. I'm just saying he has to fight SOMEONE. Why not Barnett then Alistair? They seem to be the best that he hasn't faced.
I do think that in a few years, with Brock's emerging talent and Fedor's aging, it would be an interesting fight to see.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Moranis
Date: February 13, 2009 at 04:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alistairs-contract-situation.10489/

bjj_rage said:
Moranis said:
reborn fighting mid-level fighters at best. Overeem isn't drastically better now than he was 2 years ago when Shogun dominated him or 16 months ago when Sergei Kharitonov knocked him out, he just isn't. Since his loss to Sergei he has beaten Paul Buentello, Tae Hyun Lee, Mark Hunt (by submission), and Gary Goodridge with the no contest with Mirko mixed in. I'm sorry, but any credible HW would have beaten those guys rather handidly.
Overeem is not a top ten HW until he actually beats top ten HW's.
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dude, you keep on coming with the shogun crap... and now sergei? what's wrong with loosing to sergei? he's a beast. Anyway, you are partly right, Those names arent very impressive, though the way he beat them was. By the way I will throw that k-1 kick *** beating he put on Hari there two... I think that was really impressive.
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He lost to Sergei got knocked out by essentially one punch and that was 16 months ago. And yes Sergei is a good fighter, but at that time he was at best at the back end of the top ten. So in conclusion in the last two years; Overeem has lost to a LHW in Shogun, lost to a borderline top ten HW in Kharitonov, beaten two cans in Michael Knapp and Tae Hyun Lee, beaten a washed up Gary Goodridge, beaten a mediocre MMA in Hunt, and beaten a mediocre Paul Buentello. Throw in the no contest with Mirko, a fight he probably would have won had he not cheated multiple times. And while his KO of Badi Hari is impressive, it was K-1 rules and is not a MMA fight.
I'm sorry the love affair with Overeem is blown way out of propotion. He is an average at best fighter and poses no real threat to any top HW. In fact the only top ten level MMA fighters he has beaten were Sergei Kharitonov in 2006 and Igor Vovchanchyn in 2005 (at the tail end of Igor's magnificent career). He beat Roman Zentsov in 2002 which is a credible win though neither was all that great back then. Hunt and Buentello are credible wins as well. He has a couple of solid wins at LHW over Belfort (twice). That's it. His overall record is 29-11 and those are the only seven credible victories of the entire 29 wins. The 11 losses are pretty much against every other good opponent he fought.
Overeem is a fairly exciting fighter and he would add some quality depth to the UFC or Affliction, but I can't see him challenging any of the top guys in either promotion. He just isn't that good.