Alvarez-Chandler Next?

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Originally posted by: Spud
Date: June 14, 2014 at 11:21 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alvarez-chandler-next.62812/

Edward Alvarez
@Ealvarezfight
I tried my best Big homie Your boss ain't having it , I feel bad U earned it , but unfortunately Interm is all Ur getting a shot at F'ed up
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@
illwillbrooks86
tried my best big homie , ur boss ain't having it , unfortunately Interm is the only shot ur gettin , kinda F'ed Up
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Originally posted by: BOATDUDEGUY
Date: June 14, 2014 at 11:27 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alvarez-chandler-next.62812/

The days of earning something are past
Can you sell this fight, chael p changed the industry
 
Originally posted by: thedoop
Date: June 14, 2014 at 12:23 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alvarez-chandler-next.62812/

Chandler broke this to me 2 days ago homie
moch

@
mochronik
Jun 12
@
SBNLukeThomas
isn't it curious they make this great adjustment when
@
MikeChandlerMMA
loses though?
Michael Chandler

@
MikeChandlerMMA
Jun 12
@
mochronik
@
SBNLukeThomas
same as when they made the "immediate rematch" adjustment when they wanted Eddie and I to fight a second time
clearly I'm a reporter now
 
Originally posted by: Sapper
Date: June 14, 2014 at 12:31 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alvarez-chandler-next.62812/

Man, f--- Bellator... Say what you will about the UFC and some undeserved title shots.. They would never pull this kind of s---. This shows the true state of Bellator. Can't market fighters, and s--- is earned... This will hurt Bellator in the long run with fans, and fighters... Just more writing on the wall that Bellator is going down the road of future UFC property.
 
Originally posted by: Spud
Date: June 14, 2014 at 12:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alvarez-chandler-next.62812/

thedoop said:
Chandler broke this to me 2 days ago homie
moch

@
mochronik
Jun 12
@
SBNLukeThomas
isn't it curious they make this great adjustment when
@
MikeChandlerMMA
loses though?
Michael Chandler

@
MikeChandlerMMA
Jun 12
@
mochronik
@
SBNLukeThomas
same as when they made the "immediate rematch" adjustment when they wanted Eddie and I to fight a second time
clearly I'm a reporter now
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That's your twitter? Thank you for the heavenly video I've just witnessed.
 
Originally posted by: Jowest9992000
Date: June 14, 2014 at 01:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alvarez-chandler-next.62812/

That seems like the fair decision to make for who will fight Alvarez
 
Originally posted by: NicoSuave
Date: June 14, 2014 at 02:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alvarez-chandler-next.62812/

There is a lot of negative karma headed in Bjorn Rebney's direction.
 
Originally posted by: Sapper
Date: June 14, 2014 at 02:48 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alvarez-chandler-next.62812/

NicoSuave said:
There is a lot of negative karma headed in Bjorn Rebney's direction.
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I don't think it is so much him now. Viacom Exec have been very vocal lately. I blame Viacom.
 
Originally posted by: pridefighter27
Date: June 14, 2014 at 04:30 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alvarez-chandler-next.62812/

I think Bellator still really wants Alvarez/Chandler 3, even though Chandler just lost to Brooks.
 
Originally posted by: metalmike00
Date: June 14, 2014 at 04:43 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alvarez-chandler-next.62812/

pridefighter27 said:
I think Bellator still really wants Alvarez/Chandler 3, even though Chandler just lost to Brooks.
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And if Eddie beats him again that will be 3 straight losses for chandler and it will really hurt one of the faces of bellator
 
Originally posted by: Reckin007
Date: June 14, 2014 at 07:49 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alvarez-chandler-next.62812/

Lose the interim title fight, get a title shot when the winner is ready, willing, and able. A new concept.
 
Originally posted by: abc0331
Date: June 14, 2014 at 08:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alvarez-chandler-next.62812/

metalmike00 said:
And if Eddie beats him again that will be 3 straight losses for chandler and it will really hurt one of the faces of bellator
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I doubt it.
They will just change the rules again so he can headline cards.
 
Originally posted by: Gnarcore
Date: June 14, 2014 at 08:33 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alvarez-chandler-next.62812/

Bellator ...becoming a bigger joke by the day.
 
Originally posted by: abc0331
Date: June 15, 2014 at 12:41 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alvarez-chandler-next.62812/

BRF said:
bellator sucks
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I do not think it is Bellator that sucks, it is Viacom.
I mean sure we can blame Bjorn for losing autonomy over his company and allowing Spike executives to take too much control over the product.
That was something that the UFC fought for years, and was the biggest reason why so many deals fell through before the Fox deal. For years there were talks about the UFC going on HBO or CBS, but Dana White always talked about losing control of his company in those deals. The reason why they signed with Spike is because at the time the UFC was allowed to do what they wanted to do with there company. TUF was the lone exception to the influence that Spike had on the over scope of the company. Slowly more cards developed on Spike because the UFC proved to be a large role in ratings for Spike.
When Viacom bought in to Bellator, they did it with the intentions of "getting in to the MMA promoting game". They did not want to just carry a company, let them build there brand, and just jump to the next network, they wanted to put there finger print on the market, and make the MMA market, their market.
Spike has turned Bellator into what they saw was successful with the UFC in 2006-2007.
That is when all kinds of changes to the product began to occur, the floor mats even changed to look more like the UFC's. Viacom basically started mimicking the same formula that made the UFC popular almost a decade ago.
The problem with this is that the UFC already fulfills that role, and if just watch the UFC, there are more than plenty of mma events each month.
The different selling point that Bellator had for people that watched mma regularly was the tournament, and how it played an integral role in the entire schedule of the organization.
It was a great idea and a decent execution of a very difficult concept to properly pull off in modern combat sports, the tournament.
Now still having the tournament is still a great way for Bellator to display young fighters. But it does pretty much making the final results less valued by making so many changes for the sake of trying to sell fights with headliners for PPVs because viacom wants to compete with the UFC.
Bellator was doing a great job building there brand and roster, but since Viacom bought in, there has been a change in the type of fighter valued at Bellator. Older, more bloated contracts are now on there roster, and those top heavy contracts kill organizations faster than Josh Barnett.
I'm just not a fan of how Viacom took a really interesting concept and business plan for a company and just threw it away in there grudge match with Zuffa.
So that was a long winded way for me to respond;
"Viacom sucks."
 
Originally posted by: Galgorian
Date: June 15, 2014 at 12:54 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alvarez-chandler-next.62812/

Alvarez vs. Brooks and Rampage vs. Newton as the main features on the next PPV seemed like a no brainer.
 
Originally posted by: NicoSuave
Date: June 15, 2014 at 12:56 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alvarez-chandler-next.62812/

abc0331 said:
I do not think it is Bellator that sucks, it is Viacom.
I mean sure we can blame Bjorn for losing autonomy over his company and allowing Spike executives to take too much control over the product.
That was something that the UFC fought for years, and was the biggest reason why so many deals fell through before the Fox deal. For years there were talks about the UFC going on HBO or CBS, but Dana White always talked about losing control of his company in those deals. The reason why they signed with Spike is because at the time the UFC was allowed to do what they wanted to do with there company. TUF was the lone exception to the influence that Spike had on the over scope of the company. Slowly more cards developed on Spike because the UFC proved to be a large role in ratings for Spike.
When Viacom bought in to Bellator, they did it with the intentions of "getting in to the MMA promoting game". They did not want to just carry a company, let them build there brand, and just jump to the next network, they wanted to put there finger print on the market, and make the MMA market, their market.
Spike has turned Bellator into what they saw was successful with the UFC in 2006-2007.
That is when all kinds of changes to the product began to occur, the floor mats even changed to look more like the UFC's. Viacom basically started mimicking the same formula that made the UFC popular almost a decade ago.
The problem with this is that the UFC already fulfills that role, and if just watch the UFC, there are more than plenty of mma events each month.
The different selling point that Bellator had for people that watched mma regularly was the tournament, and how it played an integral role in the entire schedule of the organization.
It was a great idea and a decent execution of a very difficult concept to properly pull off in modern combat sports, the tournament.
Now still having the tournament is still a great way for Bellator to display young fighters. But it does pretty much making the final results less valued by making so many changes for the sake of trying to sell fights with headliners for PPVs because viacom wants to compete with the UFC.
Bellator was doing a great job building there brand and roster, but since Viacom bought in, there has been a change in the type of fighter valued at Bellator. Older, more bloated contracts are now on there roster, and those top heavy contracts kill organizations faster than Josh Barnett.
I'm just not a fan of how Viacom took a really interesting concept and business plan for a company and just threw it away in there grudge match with Zuffa.
So that was a long winded way for me to respond;
"Viacom sucks."
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Failure to build new talent while favoring the has-beens... The Rise And Fall of WCW all over again.
 
Originally posted by: thedoop
Date: June 15, 2014 at 01:04 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/alvarez-chandler-next.62812/

abc0331 said:
I do not think it is Bellator that sucks, it is Viacom.
I mean sure we can blame Bjorn for losing autonomy over his company and allowing Spike executives to take too much control over the product.
That was something that the UFC fought for years, and was the biggest reason why so many deals fell through before the Fox deal. For years there were talks about the UFC going on HBO or CBS, but Dana White always talked about losing control of his company in those deals. The reason why they signed with Spike is because at the time the UFC was allowed to do what they wanted to do with there company. TUF was the lone exception to the influence that Spike had on the over scope of the company. Slowly more cards developed on Spike because the UFC proved to be a large role in ratings for Spike.
When Viacom bought in to Bellator, they did it with the intentions of "getting in to the MMA promoting game". They did not want to just carry a company, let them build there brand, and just jump to the next network, they wanted to put there finger print on the market, and make the MMA market, their market.
Spike has turned Bellator into what they saw was successful with the UFC in 2006-2007.
That is when all kinds of changes to the product began to occur, the floor mats even changed to look more like the UFC's. Viacom basically started mimicking the same formula that made the UFC popular almost a decade ago.
The problem with this is that the UFC already fulfills that role, and if just watch the UFC, there are more than plenty of mma events each month.
The different selling point that Bellator had for people that watched mma regularly was the tournament, and how it played an integral role in the entire schedule of the organization.
It was a great idea and a decent execution of a very difficult concept to properly pull off in modern combat sports, the tournament.
Now still having the tournament is still a great way for Bellator to display young fighters. But it does pretty much making the final results less valued by making so many changes for the sake of trying to sell fights with headliners for PPVs because viacom wants to compete with the UFC.
Bellator was doing a great job building there brand and roster, but since Viacom bought in, there has been a change in the type of fighter valued at Bellator. Older, more bloated contracts are now on there roster, and those top heavy contracts kill organizations faster than Josh Barnett.
I'm just not a fan of how Viacom took a really interesting concept and business plan for a company and just threw it away in there grudge match with Zuffa.
So that was a long winded way for me to respond;
"Viacom sucks."
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good read, and more importantly good points.
It really is Viacom...they're gonna kill Bellator which is beyond horrible for fighters no matter which organization they fight for currently.
 
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