Anderson Silva vs GSP
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I think St. Pierre handles Silva. I've held this belief for quite a while, and here are my reasons:
First off, the only fighters who have given Silva problems in his UFC career have been strong wrestlers. Dan Henderson was able to take a round off of him, an emaciated Travis Lutter was able to put him on his back and do some damage, and Chael Sonnen was able to eat a punch and take Silva down every round in their fight. A strong wrestler with a good chin and sound submission defense will give Silva serious problems; if Chael Sonnen's submission defense wasn't the weakest part of his game we wouldn't even be having this conversation. St. Pierre is one of the best wrestlers in MMA (sorry wrestling purists) who has been able to humiliate pedigreed grapplers like Josh Koscheck, Jon Fitch, Matt Hughes, and Sean Sherk.
Secondly, St. Pierre's submission defense is very strong. Anderson Silva is a high level BJJ player, but St. Pierre has weathered storms from similarly skilled submission artists. His only submission loss famously came at the hands of Matt Hughes almost seven years ago. Since then, GSP has grown leaps and bounds as a mixed martial artist and has been able to handle two high level BJJ practitioners in BJ Penn and Matt Serra.
Lastly, St. Pierre-even as a welterweight-is stronger than Anderson Silva. Silva is a tall, lean, lanky fighter who uses his flexibility and leverage extremely well. However, a George St. Pierre with six months to put muscle on is going to be very hard to deal with. Normally, power and athleticism are annulled by Silva's other worldly striking, but St. Pierre's grappling acumen will ensure that he fights this fight where he wants to. George St. Pierre and Greg Jackson have some of the best game planning in MMA, and they will figure out a way to get the Middleweight king on his back.
I think Anderson Silva and George St. Pierre are the two best mixed martial artists in the world. Anderson Silva has the capability to knock any fighter in any weight class out cold at the drop of a hat. However, St. Pierre is a bad stylistic match-up for the Spider...plain and simple. As a mixed martial arts bettor, I am glad to see St. Pierre as a +150 underdog right now.
I cant see GSP not taking this down. Silva doesnt move his feet like he used to, and couldnt withstand tds ever. GSP will not be subbed in top position, leaving Silva to have to KO Georges before it hits the ground imo. Very possible! But Georges is also a master of gameplans and fights solely to win. I think he has better than 50% odds to stay out of harms way. Have to see how much size and reach Silva has on Georges. Probably 10 lbs, and Silva is 77.5 inch reach. Whats Georges? Just checked. 76"!! Not too bad. With his quick jab, and footwork, he might hold his own.
Just some scattered thoughts. Ill check some tape later on. Getting excited for this, didnt think i was.
2.5u on GSP @+190.
if i actually knew a date for this fight, i would hop on GSP @ +190 like its nobodies business, but i hate having my money tied up so long, i was a split second away from laying a bunch on rashad a while back and look hwere that would have gotten me, ask GCAD, i guess they have a right to hold his cain/dos santos still
I don't think I've ever seen a line come out like this, when 1 opponent is fighting someone else sooner.
There's too many unknowns here imo: Is the fight definitely happening at 185? If it is, how long does GSP need to bulk up to 185? Does GSP want a 185 tune up fight first? etc etc
I propose these questions because...."MUST TAKE PLACE BY THE END OF 2011 FOR ACTION"...Although lately bets on fights like this have usually taken place within the given time parameters of the sportsbook.
And Bookmaker's $250 limit is unfortunate. The line will sharpen up before you can get more money down.
GOODNIGHTIRENE said:
ask GCAD, i guess they have a right to hold his cain/dos santos still
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lol, I keep forgetting to ask them to cancel the wager. I have a lot of available capital at that book so it hasn't been a problem yet.
GSP vs SILVA
the line is out on bodog now.... made a 4 unit bet on GSP as soon as i saw it... probably a mistake as im not even sure which weight the fight class is at but oh well:
Anderson silva -175, GSP +140
while i think silva handles GSP standing, i think there is a very small chance he can stop GSP's takedown. basically, i expect GSP to chael sonnen the crap out of silva for all 5 rounds (if its a 3 round fight im even more confident). short of a front kick/knee to the face going in for a takedown i dont really see anderson doing alot to stop GSP. his Takedown defence / BJJ is no match for GSPs ever improving ground game (i find it unlikely silva will submit GSP).
GSP has some of the best gameplanning in the world, and you can rest assured he will have a great strategy coming into this fight.
i expect the line will move alot more towards even, especially if it is a catchweight and 3 rounds.
Re: GSP vs SILVA
smokeweed420 said:
the line is out on bodog now.... made a 4 unit bet on GSP as soon as i saw it... probably a mistake as im not even sure which weight the fight class is at but oh well:
Anderson silva -175, GSP +140
while i think silva handles GSP standing, i think there is a very small chance he can stop GSP's takedown. basically, i expect GSP to chael sonnen the crap out of silva for all 5 rounds (if its a 3 round fight im even more confident). short of a front kick/knee to the face going in for a takedown i dont really see anderson doing alot to stop GSP. his Takedown defence / BJJ is no match for GSPs ever improving ground game (i find it unlikely silva will submit GSP).
GSP has some of the best gameplanning in the world, and you can rest assured he will have a great strategy coming into this fight.
i expect the line will move alot more towards even, especially if it is a catchweight and 3 rounds.
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Re: GSP vs SILVA
smokeweed420 said:
especially if it is a catchweight and 3 rounds.
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? Never heard that thrown around. No way a fight of this magnitude happens w/o a belt at stake
I agree with most of the GSP analysis, he has the skillset designed to give Anderson fits. Size is a big question mark and I don't like betting on someone whose clear cut path to victory is pinning Silva down for 5 rounds. 25 minutes is more than enough time for Silva to thrash any person on the planet.
Interested to see how the line move after GSP/Shields
while silva is an (possible THE) elite striker in MMA, i think people are looking past GSPs striking too
while obviously i think on the feet silva has the advantage, lets not forget about GSP destroying BJ Penn on the feet too... he can win via his wrestling for sure, silva can win via KO for sure, but i dont think its 100% given that silva dominates GSP on the feet.
when u factor in the threat of takedowns (GSP is SURE to mix it up here), i think silva is in for a rough night everywhere