Are kicks to the body of a downed opponent legal in the UFC

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Originally posted by: durtieb0xer
Date: July 03, 2010 at 02:45 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/are-kicks-to-the-body-of-a-downed-opponent-legal-in-the-ufc.27460/

I've wondered about this topic question ever since I saw the fight between Melvin Guillard and Gabe Rudeger. After Gabe got folded up by a vicious gut punch by Melvin, Guillard then charged in and landed a kick to the shoulder blade of a downed Gabe Rudeger but the Ref didn't call foul play and only stopped the fight via TKO.
Thoughts on that anyone?
 
Originally posted by: Daidojuku-Dude
Date: July 03, 2010 at 02:50 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/are-kicks-to-the-body-of-a-downed-opponent-legal-in-the-ufc.27460/

kicks and knees to the body of a downed opponent are legal yes
 
Originally posted by: theideaman
Date: July 03, 2010 at 03:00 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/are-kicks-to-the-body-of-a-downed-opponent-legal-in-the-ufc.27460/

GSP vs Serra II, GSP destroyed Serra's mid section with viscous knees to the body. Only kick to the head of a downed opponent aren't allowed
 
Originally posted by: durtieb0xer
Date: July 03, 2010 at 03:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/are-kicks-to-the-body-of-a-downed-opponent-legal-in-the-ufc.27460/

^^^I'm fully aware that knees to the body are legal. The reason I asked about the kicks are because I rarely ever see them implemented in MMA fights.
Thanks for your input though!
 
Originally posted by: sirgerbil
Date: July 03, 2010 at 03:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/are-kicks-to-the-body-of-a-downed-opponent-legal-in-the-ufc.27460/

durtieb0xer said:
^^^I'm fully aware that knees to the body are legal. The reason I asked about the kicks are because I rarely ever see them implemented in MMA fights.
Thanks for your input though!
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If you're turtled, Kicks are kind of hard to get the right angle with. that and you have to back up a bit, which give your opponent the chance to stand up. I think with knees you can control them more. So while kicks to the body are legal, you're hardly likely to see them in play too much.
 
Originally posted by: durtieb0xer
Date: July 03, 2010 at 03:50 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/are-kicks-to-the-body-of-a-downed-opponent-legal-in-the-ufc.27460/

sirgerbil said:
durtieb0xer said:
^^^I'm fully aware that knees to the body are legal. The reason I asked about the kicks are because I rarely ever see them implemented in MMA fights.
Thanks for your input though!
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If you're turtled, Kicks are kind of hard to get the right angle with. that and you have to back up a bit, which give your opponent the chance to stand up. I think with knees you can control them more. So while kicks to the body are legal, you're hardly likely to see them in play too much.
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^^^ This is exactly what I'm looking for. Reasons why I don't see kicks to the body that often.
Thanks!
 
Originally posted by: ballsout
Date: July 03, 2010 at 03:56 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/are-kicks-to-the-body-of-a-downed-opponent-legal-in-the-ufc.27460/

Stomps to the body are illegal I believe, kicks are legal. I believe there is a fine line between an axe kick to a downed opponent and a stomp.
I have my own definition of a stiomp vs a kick, but it is likely not the real rule interpretation. If someone has the actual interpretation of what the difference between a kick and a stomp are it would be appreciated.
 
Originally posted by: JonnyF
Date: July 03, 2010 at 04:12 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/are-kicks-to-the-body-of-a-downed-opponent-legal-in-the-ufc.27460/

Wouldn't kicks to a downed opponent be considered soccer kicks?
 
Originally posted by: CopperHeart
Date: July 03, 2010 at 04:21 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/are-kicks-to-the-body-of-a-downed-opponent-legal-in-the-ufc.27460/

JonnyF said:
Wouldn't kicks to a downed opponent be considered soccer kicks?
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There's no rule against soccer kicks to the body.
 
Originally posted by: theideaman
Date: July 03, 2010 at 04:36 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/are-kicks-to-the-body-of-a-downed-opponent-legal-in-the-ufc.27460/

durtieb0xer said:
sirgerbil said:
durtieb0xer said:
^^^I'm fully aware that knees to the body are legal. The reason I asked about the kicks are because I rarely ever see them implemented in MMA fights.
Thanks for your input though!
Click to expand...
If you're turtled, Kicks are kind of hard to get the right angle with. that and you have to back up a bit, which give your opponent the chance to stand up. I think with knees you can control them more. So while kicks to the body are legal, you're hardly likely to see them in play too much.
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^^^ This is exactly what I'm looking for. Reasons why I don't see kicks to the body that often.
Thanks!
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Ah, my b I saw "knees" in the second post =P But ya what he said =)
 
Originally posted by: sirgerbil
Date: July 03, 2010 at 04:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/are-kicks-to-the-body-of-a-downed-opponent-legal-in-the-ufc.27460/

durtieb0xer said:
sirgerbil said:
durtieb0xer said:
^^^I'm fully aware that knees to the body are legal. The reason I asked about the kicks are because I rarely ever see them implemented in MMA fights.
Thanks for your input though!
Click to expand...
If you're turtled, Kicks are kind of hard to get the right angle with. that and you have to back up a bit, which give your opponent the chance to stand up. I think with knees you can control them more. So while kicks to the body are legal, you're hardly likely to see them in play too much.
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^^^ This is exactly what I'm looking for. Reasons why I don't see kicks to the body that often.
Thanks!
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Any time brudda
 
Originally posted by: Panther78
Date: July 03, 2010 at 04:50 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/are-kicks-to-the-body-of-a-downed-opponent-legal-in-the-ufc.27460/

To the head, illegal, to the body legal.
 
Originally posted by: durtieb0xer
Date: July 03, 2010 at 04:51 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/are-kicks-to-the-body-of-a-downed-opponent-legal-in-the-ufc.27460/

JonnyF said:
Wouldn't kicks to a downed opponent be considered soccer kicks?
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Seems like it should be!
I would say so. IMO
 
Originally posted by: Puxin
Date: July 03, 2010 at 05:01 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/are-kicks-to-the-body-of-a-downed-opponent-legal-in-the-ufc.27460/

You're allowed kicking a downed opponent. You're not allowed kicking a downed opponent in the head.
 
Originally posted by: Fedor_is_god
Date: July 03, 2010 at 08:05 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/are-kicks-to-the-body-of-a-downed-opponent-legal-in-the-ufc.27460/

Yeah, how come you don't see soccer kicks or stomping the midsection or side (with the heel) more often?
Isn't foot stomping illegal?
 
Originally posted by: CopperHeart
Date: July 03, 2010 at 08:08 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/are-kicks-to-the-body-of-a-downed-opponent-legal-in-the-ufc.27460/

Fedor_is_god said:
Yeah, how come you don't see soccer kicks or stomping the midsection or side (with the heel) more often?
Isn't foot stomping illegal?
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To the head (or spine).
 
Originally posted by: HandsofStone21
Date: July 04, 2010 at 12:58 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/are-kicks-to-the-body-of-a-downed-opponent-legal-in-the-ufc.27460/

While kicks to body are legal, in order to land them you are putting yourself in bad position, giving up body control and allowing your opponent a chance to escape, you are also taking a chance that your opponent moves and you catch a hard body part and end up hurting yourself. Trying to land a kick to downed fighter would, in most cases be like chasing a turtle on his shell and its easier to jump on, control and pound out.
Answer, its not a technical, high efficient move, therfore no one does it.
 
Originally posted by: bothrops
Date: July 04, 2010 at 11:41 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/are-kicks-to-the-body-of-a-downed-opponent-legal-in-the-ufc.27460/

"Isn't foot stomping illegal?"
It depends on where they are fighting. They made a huge deal over it for UFC 97 and said they wouldn't allow it in Montreal.
 
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