Asian Basketball Association - NOT FAIR.

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Originally posted by: Moose200x
Date: August 09, 2010 at 01:56 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/asian-basketball-association-not-fair.28956/

There is a league in L.A. called Asian Basketball Association. Why is that fair and OK but when a guy started the Whites basketball league (All-American Basketball Alliance) he got flamed and called a racist. I don't wanna fight, but why is it to mock white people?
 
Originally posted by: elderpanda
Date: August 09, 2010 at 03:56 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/asian-basketball-association-not-fair.28956/

It seems to fall under the fact that whites will always be seen as racist, even though as an Asian, I can tell you the most racist people in the world are asians. Secondly it isn't seen as a threat, since when besides yao did an asian actually make an impact in the NBA? Besides being benchwarmers and D-League players?
 
Originally posted by: Brick
Date: August 09, 2010 at 09:20 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/asian-basketball-association-not-fair.28956/

It is a double standard, but white people have generally learned to accept it, or at least they should.
 
Originally posted by: CopperHeart
Date: August 09, 2010 at 09:38 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/asian-basketball-association-not-fair.28956/

elderpanda said:
as an Asian, I can tell you the most racist people in the world are asians.
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Can you be more specific as to your definition of Asian?
Are all these countries racist?
Afghanistan
Armenia
Azerbaijan
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Bhutan
Brunei
Cambodia
China
Cyprus
East Timor
Georgia
India
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq
Israel
Japan
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Kuwait
Kyrgyzstan
Laos
Lebanon
Malaysia
Maldives
Mongolia
Myanmar
Nepal
North Korea
Oman
Pakistan
Philippines
Qatar
Russia
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
South Korea
Sri Lanka
Syria
Tajikistan
Thailand
Turkey
Turkmenistan
United Arab Emirates
Uzbekistan
Vietnam
Yemen
 
Originally posted by: elderpanda
Date: August 09, 2010 at 01:35 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/asian-basketball-association-not-fair.28956/

I'm referring to the Eastern, lighter skinned asians, although Indians and their unnatural hatred for Pakistanis is also very close. I would say that the Chinese are near the top, as they seem to think that they created everything, and are the central kingdom. No joke, many people still refer to themselves as the center of the world.
 
Originally posted by: Gutter
Date: August 09, 2010 at 01:51 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/asian-basketball-association-not-fair.28956/

more like......Asian Basketball Association - WHO CARES?
does it really bother you that much that Asains have their own basketball association while if whites did it its considered racist? we've still got hockey, Nascar, golf (again, cause Tiger is awful right now), and MMA. We've had our own exclusive clubs for a Millennium....its called "being white and all the perks and joys that come along with it because we've always thought we were superior anyway" i don't need a whites only anything to make things feel equal to all the other different folks who'd like to have their own thing for themselves cause i feel pretty damn good about being white as it is.
 
Originally posted by: MMAStudent
Date: August 09, 2010 at 01:58 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/asian-basketball-association-not-fair.28956/

Brick said:
It is a double standard, but white people have generally learned to accept it, or at least they should.
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+1.
White is the only minority.
 
Originally posted by: elderpanda
Date: August 09, 2010 at 03:49 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/asian-basketball-association-not-fair.28956/

Gutter said:
more like......Asian Basketball Association - WHO CARES?
does it really bother you that much that Asains have their own basketball association while if whites did it its considered racist? we've still got hockey, Nascar, golf (again, cause Tiger is awful right now), and MMA. We've had our own exclusive clubs for a
Millennium
....its called "being white and all the perks and joys that come along with it because we've always thought we were superior anyway" i don't need a whites only anything to make things feel equal to all the other different folks who'd like to have their own thing for themselves cause i feel pretty damn good about being white as it is.
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Actually that is incredibly wrong lol. As of the early 1700s, nearly 90 percent of the worlds gdp was generated by 2 countries in Asia, China and india. Europe has only become the leading power of the world (including the US) in recent years. The superior belief doesn't really count as well, cause I do believe that "civilized" Europe at its height during the Roman era, was still light years behind the height of both the Mongol, Ming, and every Indian dynasty up to the Mughals. Plus nascar, and golf are more or less sports that take a certain monetary requirement to play
. I would say that MMA is quickly becoming a "interracial" sport, in which blacks, asians, and latinos will quickly balance out the "white" majority. Look at the champs in both the UFC and SF and Bellator.
 
Originally posted by: CopperHeart
Date: August 09, 2010 at 03:53 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/asian-basketball-association-not-fair.28956/

elderpanda said:
I would say that MMA is quickly becoming a "interracial" sport, in which blacks, asians, and latinos will quickly balance out the "white" majority.
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Don't forget about my buddy Dan.
He'll be back.
 
Originally posted by: Gutter
Date: August 09, 2010 at 04:53 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/asian-basketball-association-not-fair.28956/

elderpanda said:
Gutter said:
more like......Asian Basketball Association - WHO CARES?
does it really bother you that much that Asains have their own basketball association while if whites did it its considered racist? we've still got hockey, Nascar, golf (again, cause Tiger is awful right now), and MMA. We've had our own exclusive clubs for a
Millennium
....its called "being white and all the perks and joys that come along with it because we've always thought we were superior anyway" i don't need a whites only anything to make things feel equal to all the other different folks who'd like to have their own thing for themselves cause i feel pretty damn good about being white as it is.
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Actually that is incredibly wrong lol. As of the early 1700s, nearly 90 percent of the worlds gdp was generated by 2 countries in Asia, China and india. Europe has only become the leading power of the world (including the US) in recent years. The superior belief doesn't really count as well, cause I do believe that "civilized" Europe at its height during the Roman era, was still light years behind the height of both the Mongol, Ming, and every Indian dynasty up to the Mughals. Plus nascar, and golf are more or less sports that take a certain monetary requirement to play
. I would say that MMA is quickly becoming a "interracial" sport, in which blacks, asians, and latinos will quickly balance out the "white" majority. Look at the champs in both the UFC and SF and Bellator.
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panda, i wasn't talking about white exclusivity in terms of population. I'm talking about how white culture has treated different races as inferior throughout history despite not being the majority. Also, one race can most certainly believe its superior despite what other dynasties were doing back then, and despite what census numbers show us today. While i will agree that MMA is becoming more and more diverse and at possibly a much faster rate than any sport before it, the number of champions and competitors at the top levels are still mostly white Americans. Believe me, i'm glad the scales are tipping....but i think you're reading what i'm saying incorrectly if you don't think that whites, overwhelmingly, throughout history have considered themselves superior to other races.
 
Originally posted by: CopperHeart
Date: August 09, 2010 at 04:56 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/asian-basketball-association-not-fair.28956/

Gutter said:
whites, overwhelmingly, throughout history have considered themselves superior to other races.
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Most whites overwhelmingly were poor throughout history and never traveled far enough to meet any non-whites.
 
Originally posted by: elderpanda
Date: August 09, 2010 at 04:58 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/asian-basketball-association-not-fair.28956/

Actually, they have not, because the concept of the "white" race is a modern one. Look back to the 1800s for example, the "whites" who spoke of themselves as superior were that of western europe, excluding Ireland(ask a Brit how they feel about them) and Spain(considered the old man of europe). Irish and Spaniards were considered below whites, and people from Central Europe and Russians were below that. So actually, for you to say that whites have all along considered themselves superior is off.
 
Originally posted by: CopperHeart
Date: August 09, 2010 at 05:04 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/asian-basketball-association-not-fair.28956/

elderpanda said:
Actually, they have not, because the concept of the "white" race is a modern one. Look back to the 1800s for example, the "whites" who spoke of themselves as superior were that of western europe, excluding Ireland(ask a Brit how they feel about them) and Spain(considered the old man of europe). Irish and Spaniards were considered below whites, and people from Central Europe and Russians were below that. So actually, for you to say that whites have all along considered themselves superior is off.
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I'm not sure which period of history we're talking about.
By "white" I mean of European DNA (Portugal to Moscow, Norway to Sicily) and until the advent of mass transportation in the 2nd half of the 19th century, most people never had the means to travel far beyond their birthplace.
 
Originally posted by: elderpanda
Date: August 09, 2010 at 05:09 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/asian-basketball-association-not-fair.28956/

CopperHeart said:
elderpanda said:
Actually, they have not, because the concept of the "white" race is a modern one. Look back to the 1800s for example, the "whites" who spoke of themselves as superior were that of western europe, excluding Ireland(ask a Brit how they feel about them) and Spain(considered the old man of europe). Irish and Spaniards were considered below whites, and people from Central Europe and Russians were below that. So actually, for you to say that whites have all along considered themselves superior is off.
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I'm not sure which period of history we're talking about.
By "white" I mean of European DNA (Portugal to Moscow, Norway to Sicily) and until the advent of mass transportation in the 2nd half of the 19th century, most people never had the means to travel far beyond their birthplace.
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I'm referring to the second and third waves of immigration to the US, in which the original immigrants who happened to be that of British and German ancestry, proceeded to antagonize and pass immigration quotas on the "inferior" whites who were coming into the country. Also even though there wasn't mass transportation until the second half, the potato famine, and widespread corruption and crop failures in eastern europe forced many to come to America.
 
Originally posted by: CopperHeart
Date: August 09, 2010 at 05:14 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/asian-basketball-association-not-fair.28956/

elderpanda said:
CopperHeart said:
I'm not sure which period of history we're talking about.
By "white" I mean of European DNA (Portugal to Moscow, Norway to Sicily) and until the advent of mass transportation in the 2nd half of the 19th century, most people never had the means to travel far beyond their birthplace.
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I'm referring to the second and third waves of immigration to the US, in which the original immigrants who happened to be that of British and German ancestry, proceeded to antagonize and pass immigration quotas on the "inferior" whites who were coming into the country. Also even though there wasn't mass transportation until the second half, the potato famine, and widespread corruption and crop failures in eastern europe forced many to come to America.
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Nowadays, all those WASP douches and the unwashed European riffraff are mixed together into a single "white" group.
It's interesting how many people define "white" as "All-American" when America was never all white.
 
Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: August 09, 2010 at 06:00 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/asian-basketball-association-not-fair.28956/

I am against exclusivity by race....but I'm not about to start throwing a fit over an insignificant sports league.
 
Originally posted by: CopperHeart
Date: August 09, 2010 at 06:23 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/asian-basketball-association-not-fair.28956/

Sedulous said:
I am against exclusivity by race....but I'm not about to start throwing a fit over an insignificant sports league.
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I think the way exclusivity falls apart is that nuances can't be gauged too well.
What's "Asian"? My Iranian brother-in-law? My Filipino buddy? Dean Cain?
There's too much variation.
 
Originally posted by: elderpanda
Date: August 09, 2010 at 08:00 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/asian-basketball-association-not-fair.28956/

Most "asians" as they like to refer to themselves are the eastern "lighter" skinned variety, although indians also proclaim the same. However if you asked a Pakistani, they would refer to themselves as middle eastern and not asian.
 
Originally posted by: Brick
Date: August 09, 2010 at 09:59 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/asian-basketball-association-not-fair.28956/

CopperHeart said:
What's "Asian"? My Iranian brother-in-law? My Filipino buddy? Dean Cain?
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"Asian" in American terminology has come to be the accepted alternative for a variety of the eastern Asians that used to be referred to as "Oriental," which is now considered offensive. It is commonly accepted that when talking about Asian people, it is this group of countires that are being talked about, not Indians or Iranians. Not technically accurate as you point out, but this is the common usage now.
 
Originally posted by: filipino
Date: August 09, 2010 at 10:05 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/asian-basketball-association-not-fair.28956/

CopperHeart said:
What's "Asian"? My Iranian brother-in-law? My Filipino buddy? Dean Cain?
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I ain't your buddy, pal
Brick said:
"Asian" in American terminology has come to be the accepted alternative for a variety of the eastern Asians that used to be referred to as "Oriental," which is now considered offensive. It is commonly accepted that when talking about Asian people, it is this group of countires that are being talked about, not Indians or Iranians. Not technically accurate as you point out, but this is the common usage now.
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Really? When did oriental become offensive and why? I guess I missed it.
 
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