Askren Not Impressed by Bonus Chasing "Losers" like Garcia

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Originally posted by: GOODNIGHTIRENE
Date: April 07, 2011 at 03:49 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/askren-not-impressed-by-bonus-chasing-losers-like-garcia.37541/

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Sounds like Ben Askren has mastered the art of subtlety.
The brash Bellator welterweight champion, who is undefeated in his "Funky" mixed martial arts career, will go head-to-head with Nick Thompson in the main event of Bellator 40 this Saturday night (April 9, 2011) at the First Council Casino, in Newkirk, Oklahoma.
So, what can we expect this weekend from the collegiate wrestling champion and former Olympian?
Well, according to his interview with the Sherdog Radio Network’s "Beatdown" show, he won't be submitted (because of his wrestling pedigree) and he won't be knocked out (because of his wrestling pedigree).
So what's left?
Just winning, according to Askren, which is why he got into MMA in the first place. To win. He doesn't want to fight for a "bonus" or to entertain the masses, like some of the other "losers" in the UFC.
Hear it directly from the horse's mouth
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I think people like that are losers because, in my mind, a fight's about winning, not about putting on a show. We're not singers, we're not actors, we are mixed martial artists or fighters or athletes, whichever way you wanna do it and that's about winning ... When you're fighting for 25 minutes, every fan and their mother can talk s--- about this and that and don't finish fights. Well, why don't they get in there and fight for 25 minutes? That's a long time. And you got to win before you show. I mean, people that show on top of winning, say Anderson Silva, that dude now he's a showman but he's also won, what, 13 fights in a row? So, obviously, he can do it. And there's people like Leonard Garcia who goes out and puts on a show but he's like 3-5 in his last 8 fights. Like, c'mon dude."
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Originally posted by: JonnyRico
Date: April 07, 2011 at 03:52 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/askren-not-impressed-by-bonus-chasing-losers-like-garcia.37541/

Re: Askren Not Impressed by Bonus Chasing "Losers" like Garc
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He may be right but comin from him it just makes him come off like an a--hole who wishes he got more recognition for his boring fights. But Im not an Askren fan anyway.
 
Originally posted by: Brick
Date: April 07, 2011 at 03:55 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/askren-not-impressed-by-bonus-chasing-losers-like-garcia.37541/

Re: Askren Not Impressed by Bonus Chasing "Losers" like Garc
I think people like that are losers because, in my mind, a fight's about winning, not about putting on a show. We're not singers, we're not actors, we are mixed martial artists or fighters or athletes, whichever way you wanna do it and that's about winning ... When you're fighting for 25 minutes, every fan and their mother can talk s**t about this and that and don't finish fights. Well, why don't they get in there and fight for 25 minutes? That's a long time. And you got to win before you show. I mean, people that show on top of winning, say Anderson Silva, that dude now he's a showman but he's also won, what, 13 fights in a row? So, obviously, he can do it. And there's people like Leonard Garcia who goes out and puts on a show but he's like 3-5 in his last 8 fights. Like, c'mon dude."
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He's right.
BTW, I don't see anywhere in the quote where he called Garcia a "loser" (note that the word itself was in quotes) as the article and headline suggest.
 
Originally posted by: BaconBits
Date: April 07, 2011 at 03:55 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/askren-not-impressed-by-bonus-chasing-losers-like-garcia.37541/

Re: Askren Not Impressed by Bonus Chasing "Losers" like Garc
And Ben Askren is obviously a complete toolbag who will be next to broke his entire career.
 
Originally posted by: PsychoIcon
Date: April 07, 2011 at 03:55 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/askren-not-impressed-by-bonus-chasing-losers-like-garcia.37541/

Re: Askren Not Impressed by Bonus Chasing "Losers" like Garc
Yeah, this kid sounds really bitter...
 
Originally posted by: GOODNIGHTIRENE
Date: April 07, 2011 at 03:57 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/askren-not-impressed-by-bonus-chasing-losers-like-garcia.37541/

Re: Askren Not Impressed by Bonus Chasing "Losers" like Garc
PsychoIcon said:
Yeah, this kid sounds really bitter...
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its like the movie stepbrothers...
someonething about his face just makes me not like him.
he just seems like he would be a straight tool.
 
Originally posted by: Paul_UK
Date: April 07, 2011 at 03:57 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/askren-not-impressed-by-bonus-chasing-losers-like-garcia.37541/

Re: Askren Not Impressed by Bonus Chasing "Losers" like Garc
Without entertaining fighter, there wouldn't be near as many fans, and without the fans, the fighters get paid a hell of a lot less.
 
Originally posted by: Sapper
Date: April 07, 2011 at 04:01 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/askren-not-impressed-by-bonus-chasing-losers-like-garcia.37541/

Re: Askren Not Impressed by Bonus Chasing "Losers" like Garc
this and that and don't finish fights.
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Aren't fighters there to finish fights? I have issues with fighters that never attempt to finish the fight. Winning is important, and finishing your opponents is how you get to the top and stay there.
 
Originally posted by: fishfryer
Date: April 07, 2011 at 04:12 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/askren-not-impressed-by-bonus-chasing-losers-like-garcia.37541/

Re: Askren Not Impressed by Bonus Chasing "Losers" like Garc
The dummy doesn't realize that professional athletes ARE ENTERTAINERS!! They are no different than a singer or an actor. Yes what they do is dangerous, but at the end of the day, there is no car fixed, or bridge built, or wall painted, or hamburger flipped, or bank loan made. All that is left is a video of their actions that does nothing but entertain us. The audacity of this guy kills me, professional athletes are paid to entertain me, that is all.
And yes, I do appreciate their work and dedication to their craft, but at the end of the day, I can live without hearing the Beatles, watching DeNiro, and seeing two guys beat the crap out of each other.
 
Originally posted by: mmablaster
Date: April 07, 2011 at 04:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/askren-not-impressed-by-bonus-chasing-losers-like-garcia.37541/

Re: Askren Not Impressed by Bonus Chasing "Losers" like Garc
Football players, baseball players, UFC/Bellator/Strikeforce Fighters are entertainers and television stars in addition to being pro athletes paid to win.
People go to events to be entertained. I did have Garcia losing his first fight with Jung and the fight with Phan.
I enjoy all aspects of MMA. A good display of grappling entertains me, just as a good display of striking will. I liked Shields v. Mayhem and have enjoyed watching Askren fight so far.
 
Originally posted by: mabrown45
Date: April 07, 2011 at 04:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/askren-not-impressed-by-bonus-chasing-losers-like-garcia.37541/

Re: Askren Not Impressed by Bonus Chasing "Losers" like Garc
i'll agree with him.........and hell calling Garcia entertaining is a stretch.........first couple of fights with his wild style were fun to watch......but seriously every fight is the same with him...
 
Originally posted by: reghartner
Date: April 07, 2011 at 04:20 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/askren-not-impressed-by-bonus-chasing-losers-like-garcia.37541/

Re: Askren Not Impressed by Bonus Chasing "Losers" like Garc
mabrown45 said:
i'll agree with him.........and hell calling Garcia entertaining is a stretch.........first couple of fights with his wild style were fun to watch......but seriously every fight is the same with him...
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yeah he gets caught in a twister in every fight. it's f---ing crazy
 
Originally posted by: mabrown45
Date: April 07, 2011 at 04:23 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/askren-not-impressed-by-bonus-chasing-losers-like-garcia.37541/

Re: Askren Not Impressed by Bonus Chasing "Losers" like Garc
reghartner said:
mabrown45 said:
i'll agree with him.........and hell calling Garcia entertaining is a stretch.........first couple of fights with his wild style were fun to watch......but seriously every fight is the same with him...
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yeah he gets caught in a twister in every fight. it's f**king crazy
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ok ok his last fight was different.......but the like 4 before its just him throwing crazy wild punches and getting a split decision.........that made me tired of him
 
Originally posted by: TheGreatAwakening
Date: April 07, 2011 at 04:29 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/askren-not-impressed-by-bonus-chasing-losers-like-garcia.37541/

Re: Askren Not Impressed by Bonus Chasing "Losers" like Garc
fishfryer said:
The dummy doesn't realize that professional athletes ARE ENTERTAINERS!! They are no different than a singer or an actor. Yes what they do is dangerous, but at the end of the day, there is no car fixed, or bridge built, or wall painted, or hamburger flipped, or bank loan made. All that is left is a video of their actions that does nothing but entertain us. The audacity of this guy kills me, professional athletes are paid to entertain me, that is all.
And yes, I do appreciate their work and dedication to their craft, but at the end of the day, I can live without hearing the Beatles, watching DeNiro, and seeing two guys beat the crap out of each other.
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This.
(I don't think Leonard Garcia whiffing by 3 feet on overhand rights is entertaining/worthy of a bonus but that's a seperate issue)
 
Originally posted by: CodieLynn21
Date: April 07, 2011 at 04:44 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/askren-not-impressed-by-bonus-chasing-losers-like-garcia.37541/

Re: Askren Not Impressed by Bonus Chasing "Losers" like Garc
I agree with what ASkren says generally its all about the w but from a marketing stand point Garcia always has exciting fights but thats when they need to decide the direction they wanna go Askren would put Garcia on his back and grind him out but it isnt exciting to casual fans they want the ko the beatdown but these guys are athletes not much difference between them.
 
Originally posted by: Paul_UK
Date: April 07, 2011 at 04:49 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/askren-not-impressed-by-bonus-chasing-losers-like-garcia.37541/

Re: Askren Not Impressed by Bonus Chasing "Losers" like Garc
MMA isn't just about either getting a win or being entertaining. There is a mid point that is perfect.
Guys like Leonard Garcia will always remain around the same pay range now, maybe climbing a little but, but never getting near title contention.
On the other hand, there's guys like Jon Fitch & Nik Lentz. Lentz is 5-0-1 in his UFC career, 14 fight unbeaten streak, yet he's nowhere near a title shot. Fitch has been unanimously regarded as the No 2 WW for years, yet he's still only had 1 shot at GSP. These guys are not going anywhere quick because they don't entertain, and if they don't entertain, the fans don't watch, and less money comes in.
 
Originally posted by: GOODNIGHTIRENE
Date: April 07, 2011 at 04:51 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/askren-not-impressed-by-bonus-chasing-losers-like-garcia.37541/

Re: Askren Not Impressed by Bonus Chasing "Losers" like Garc
TheGreatAwakening said:
fishfryer said:
The dummy doesn't realize that professional athletes ARE ENTERTAINERS!! They are no different than a singer or an actor. Yes what they do is dangerous, but at the end of the day, there is no car fixed, or bridge built, or wall painted, or hamburger flipped, or bank loan made. All that is left is a video of their actions that does nothing but entertain us. The audacity of this guy kills me, professional athletes are paid to entertain me, that is all.
And yes, I do appreciate their work and dedication to their craft, but at the end of the day, I can live without hearing the Beatles, watching DeNiro, and seeing two guys beat the crap out of each other.
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This.
(I don't think Leonard Garcia whiffing by 3 feet on overhand rights is entertaining/worthy of a bonus but that's a seperate issue)
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see chad ochocinco, he hasnt done anything the last 2 years and he gains popularity by the second
 
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