Ballot Issues (other than Presidential)

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Brick
Date: October 08, 2008 at 10:15 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ballot-issues-other-than-presidential.6473/

I received my ballot in the mail today, I'll probably send it in in a week or two. I figured some might want to discuss any issues other than presidential that are on my ballot.
In Ohio, we have a casino issue on the ballot. For some reason, Ohio has remained one of the few states in the union that allows for virtually no gambling of any kind -- except for the state-run lottery and a few horse tracks. They even cracked down on poker games that sprang up during the boom, and will readily raid an Elks Club or something if they get word that any sort of gambling is going on inside. It never made much sense to me, we are pretty well split between red/blue in the state, and we are far from the bible belt. This measure would allow the construction of one (and only one) $600 million casino between Cincinnati and Columbus. Man, I hope it passes, both so they build the casino itself, and because it will hopefully be a crack in the armor of Ohio's draconian gambling laws.
Other than that, no too much exciting on the Ohio ballot. Local races, judges, etc. The local schools want another $500/year out of me, but I think the $5K/year in property taxes I currently pay are plenty adequate. I'm a big supporter of education, but come on.
Anyone else have any interesting local or state issues to discuss?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Andre3000
Date: October 08, 2008 at 11:18 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ballot-issues-other-than-presidential.6473/

Brick said:
I received my ballot in the mail today, I'll probably send it in in a week or two. I figured some might want to discuss any issues other than presidential that are on my ballot.
In Ohio, we have a casino issue on the ballot. For some reason, Ohio has remained one of the few states in the union that allows for virtually no gambling of any kind -- except for the state-run lottery and a few horse tracks. They even cracked down on poker games that sprang up during the boom, and will readily raid an Elks Club or something if they get word that any sort of gambling is going on inside. It never made much sense to me, we are pretty well split between red/blue in the state, and we are far from the bible belt. This measure would allow the construction of one (and only one) $600 million casino between Cincinnati and Columbus. Man, I hope it passes, both so they build the casino itself, and because it will hopefully be a crack in the armor of Ohio's draconian gambling laws.
Other than that, no too much exciting on the Ohio ballot. Local races, judges, etc. The local schools want another $500/year out of me, but I think the $5K/year in property taxes I currently pay are plenty adequate. I'm a big supporter of education, but come on.
Anyone else have any interesting local or state issues to discuss?
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I have a Pennsylvania absentee ballot, but there are no referenda on it. I do have to say that the ballot looks pretty budget and unprofessional, like it was made on a mimeograph machine or something.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gordon
Date: October 08, 2008 at 11:31 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ballot-issues-other-than-presidential.6473/

Brick said:
Other than that, no too much exciting on the Ohio ballot. Local races, judges, etc. The local schools want another $500/year out of me, but I think the $5K/year in property taxes I currently pay are plenty adequate. I'm a big supporter of education, but come on.
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This is always a thorn in my side. I have no children, and I plan to have no children yet I am paying all of this money in taxes to the schools. I don't like it and I don't think it is fair. Yeah yeah i know good schools mean better home value etc etc etc... I don't care. #1 the schools in San Antonio SUCK! If I ever do have a child they will go to priovate schools. They teach to a the TAX Test and that is all that they teach to in the public schools. It's horrible! Anyway off track a little bit. Any time that there is a vote for more money to go to the schools I vote no. I may be a prick for it but I don't think it should be my resposibility, whether I own a home or not, to pay for other peoples kids to go to school. :x

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Brick
Date: October 08, 2008 at 01:02 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ballot-issues-other-than-presidential.6473/

Gordon said:
Any time that there is a vote for more money to go to the schools I vote no. I may be a prick for it but I don't think it should be my resposibility, whether I own a home or not, to pay for other peoples kids to go to school. :x
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I'm with you in spirit, but I don't go as far to say "any time there is a vote for more money...I vote no." If there was a real need, I'd have no problem voting yes. For example, in the piss-ant rustbelt dying little city where I grew up in northeast Ohio, the city shools were a mess, they were about to close a bunch of them and wedge even more people into classrooms, and the places were falling apart; they desperately needed a levy to pass and had a hell of a time getting on through. I'd support a levy in that situation.
So money for education, I suppose makes sense to support. Ideally, parents would pay for their own kids education, but it just wouldn't work out that way I'm afraid. But I'm with you that I don't feel the need to pay for kids' extra curricular activities. All sports should be pay-to-play; not a dime of my tax money should go for sports programs. The stadium for our local highschool looks like it could rival many colleges. The final straw was a couple of years back when I was driving over a river here in town, and saw a brand new F-150 parked with a trailer behind it, labeled "Dublin Schools Rowing Crew." The freakin' school has a rowing crew, with their own trucks, boats, etc.. No sir, I believe you have more than enough of my money.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Archean_Life
Date: October 08, 2008 at 01:45 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ballot-issues-other-than-presidential.6473/

As per usual, we've got a ton of ballot initiatives in California. The big one is the anti gay-marriage initiative. As far as I'm concerned, the government shouldn't be sanctioning any marriages (gay or straight), they should only uphold contracts between consenting adults. Since the government feels that it is their place to sanction marriages,I don't see any reason why they shouldn't sanction all marriages between consenting adults.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gordon
Date: October 08, 2008 at 02:01 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ballot-issues-other-than-presidential.6473/

Yeah I see your point Brick. I shouldn't say that I vote no for ALL of them. Majority yes, but like you said a situation where schools are falling apart and they are going to cram 50 kids per teacher into a calssroom I would probably say ok. i did vote yes on the new highschool stadium up the road from my house but that is using existing visitor taxes and not mine so i can't really count that. I get better value on my houser and don't have to pay mre in taxes??? Where do I sign? :twisted:

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ShadyCambo
Date: October 08, 2008 at 02:27 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ballot-issues-other-than-presidential.6473/

Archean_Life said:
As per usual, we've got a ton of ballot initiatives in California. The big one is the anti ***-marriage initiative. As far as I'm concerned, the government shouldn't be sanctioning any marriages (*** or straight), they should only uphold contracts between consenting adults. Since the government feels that it is their place to sanction marriages,I don't see any reason why they shouldn't sanction all marriages between consenting adults.
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What sucks about this is that no matter how the vote goes in CA, one side will appeal it, take it to federal court so we will see this held up further. The only way to solve this issue is constitutional amendment, which I don't think is possible considering you need 2/3s vote to change the consitution, not just simple majority. The more likely route is a supreme court decision, I don't see this being left to the states (ie roe v. wade), because how can your marriage liscence be vaild in CA but void in Nevada? How can you be married in Mass. but not in GA? Can states then not reconize other marriages?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Brick
Date: November 05, 2008 at 09:11 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ballot-issues-other-than-presidential.6473/

Man, not good for me on any of the other ballot issues. Everything went the OPPOSITE of how I voted. They turned down the casino in Ohio, they approved a cap of something like 28% on payday lenders, and the local schools are getting even more tax money out of me.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Showdown
Date: November 05, 2008 at 09:59 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ballot-issues-other-than-presidential.6473/

Brick said:
Man, not good for me on any of the other ballot issues. Everything went the OPPOSITE of how I voted. They turned down the casino in Ohio, they approved a cap of something like 28% on payday lenders, and the local schools are getting even more tax money out of me.
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Shitty deal bro. Sounds like another off day on the NFL Picks and Discussions Thread :lol:

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Seawall
Date: November 06, 2008 at 01:12 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ballot-issues-other-than-presidential.6473/

Brick said:
Man, not good for me on any of the other ballot issues. Everything went the OPPOSITE of how I voted. They turned down the casino in Ohio, they approved a cap of something like 28% on payday lenders, and the local schools are getting even more tax money out of me.
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I think I went 0-9 on the issues/people I voted for. I suck at voting worse than I suck at picking MMA fights.
On the casino and payday lenders issues, I just love how the government feels they need to protect us from ourselves. Both of those were pretty much blowouts, so it seems that a good portion of the voters felt they needed the govt' to protect them. Quite a shame.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Brick
Date: November 06, 2008 at 09:05 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ballot-issues-other-than-presidential.6473/

Seawall said:
Brick said:
Man, not good for me on any of the other ballot issues. Everything went the OPPOSITE of how I voted. They turned down the casino in Ohio, they approved a cap of something like 28% on payday lenders, and the local schools are getting even more tax money out of me.
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I think I went 0-9 on the issues/people I voted for. I suck at voting worse than I suck at picking MMA fights.
On the casino and payday lenders issues, I just love how the government feels they need to protect us from ourselves. Both of those were pretty much blowouts, so it seems that a good portion of the voters felt they needed the govt' to protect them. Quite a shame.
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Ugh, I know. Especially that payday lender thing. I wonder how all these do-gooder lefties are going to feel when the people they were trying to protect start getting evicted because they can't pay rent, because all of the payday lenders have pulled out of the state?
That casino one was also irritating. It was ahead by 10-points at one point. Then, the airwaves get flooded with misleading, and downright dishonest, ads talking about how terrible casinos are. The ads were funded, of course, by Argossy Casino which is just across the border in Indiana.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Brick
Date: September 24, 2009 at 01:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ballot-issues-other-than-presidential.6473/

Casinos are trying again in Ohio this fall. This initiative is even more ambitious than the last one (sorry, Windsor). It would put four casinos in the state -- Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus, and Toledo. So far it is supposedly ahead in the polls, but so was the last initiative. There were some tax details in the last proposal that apparently people didn't like (although I'm sure 90% of the population didn't understand the issues but were going based off of the attack ads) and apparently they've avoided that problem this time around. The Ohio FOP or some similar organization is also running TV ads in favor. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: SafyreSchool
Date: September 24, 2009 at 01:39 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ballot-issues-other-than-presidential.6473/

i campaigned and voted for the raspberry mountain dew and we lost.
i would demand a recount, but sometimes you just have to suck these things up and roll with the punches.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Seawall
Date: September 24, 2009 at 02:51 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ballot-issues-other-than-presidential.6473/

Brick said:
Casinos are trying again in Ohio this fall. This initiative is even more ambitious than the last one (sorry, Windsor). It would put four casinos in the state -- Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus, and Toledo. So far it is supposedly ahead in the polls, but so was the last initiative. There were some tax details in the last proposal that apparently people didn't like (although I'm sure 90% of the population didn't understand the issues but were going based off of the attack ads) and apparently they've avoided that problem this time around. The Ohio FOP or some similar organization is also running TV ads in favor. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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I'm looking forward to playing some poker/black-jack on my lunch break. Especially on pay-days.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Brick
Date: November 03, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ballot-issues-other-than-presidential.6473/

The casino issue for Ohio is up today, I have high hopes because it has consistently been up in the polls, right up to the election.
Anyone else keeping an eye on anything in your area on election day today?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: grapplethis
Date: November 03, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ballot-issues-other-than-presidential.6473/

it appears that somewhere along the line my absentee ballot got lost or something.
i'm f---ing pissed. democracy my ***.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Brick
Date: November 03, 2009 at 09:35 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ballot-issues-other-than-presidential.6473/

Brick said:
The casino issue for Ohio is up today, I have high hopes because it has consistently been up in the polls, right up to the election.
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Looking good, almost 20% of precincts reporting, and it's ahead by about 15 points so far.