Baroni 195 day before weighins
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HBK42581 said:
Tgilb2007 said:
gmd said:
Just read a bulletin on myspace and passing it on. Hes gonna lose most of his purse
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I thought weigh-ins weren't until Friday?
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You are correct. He's got until Friday to make that weight.
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15 lbs in 2 days..... he is gonna be a thirsty bastard... but he might be able to make it. Time to hit the sauna!
jesus....
This goes back to the topic of why weight cutting is stupid. Some kind of change needs to be made. These fighters are under contract and the current trend IMO is severely broken. Some fighters cut weight because they want to come in to the fight larger than their opponent (
even though weight classes exist so that fighters are supposed to be equally matched in weight
) Others though, are forced to cut weight because of the other guys that are cutting weight. They know that if they go into a fight at their natural weight, the other guy is going to dehydrate himself the day before and actually come to the fight weighing outside of the weight class.
So, if Baroni is 195 right now... and yet he's contracted @ 170lbs... even if he makes 170lbs, he's going to likely come into the fight closer to 190 and thereby even be heavier than the 185 weight class.
I'm an open minded person and i'm simply pointing out that weight cutting is stupid, and hurts mma. Something does need to be done. It doesn't have to be a complete ban on weight cutting... but some sort of regulation needs to take place. DR Benjamin who does columns on the junkie suggested something about a fighter should only be allowed to weigh up to 10% more than the weight @ which he signs to fight at.
So, for example... If Phil Baroni was 200lbs when he signed w\ the UFC to fight @ 170lbs... he would be inelligible for the 170lb weight division. I actually think it should be a smaller margin though. Maybe 7.5% or something... or 12lbs? idk.
Other options could be weighing in the day of fights... Or, keep the day before weigh ins, but also weigh fighters before they fight and if the discrepency is greater than the agreed upon amount, the fighter should be penalized in some way.
I think weight cutting should be discouraged by the UFC. Their 185lb champion shouldn't weigh 215+lbs ... weight classes need to be "Fight Weights" not I just spent 18 hours in the sauna and i can barely walk weights.
Does anybody have any experience cutting weight? I have yet to do it myself.....But its a science. Obviously they diet and slim up....But the last 15 lbs is them starving and pissing out water. They drink distilled water 2 weeks out of the fight.....They slow the intake of distilled water a week b4 the fight and then wednesday and thursday they stop drinking the distilled water, but there bodies still piss water out like they have been drinking it. They also go into the suana with some type of oil that has sweat pour out of them. The fighters make it sound easy.
ACOGSCOPE said:
Does anybody have any experience cutting weight? I have yet to do it myself.....But its a science. Obviously they diet and slim up....But the last 15 lbs is them starving and pissing out water. They drink distilled water 2 weeks out of the fight.....They slow the intake of distilled water a week b4 the fight and then wednesday and thursday they dont drink and distilled, but there bodies still piss water out like they have been drinking it. They also go into the suana with some type of oil that has sweat pour out of them. The fighters make it sound easy.
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I used to wrestle in the 70kg division in school and would routinely cut 7-8 pounds before weigh-ins for big events. I would be able to cut that much just from limiting food for a few days and running some laps. When I hear of people cutting 20+ pounds though I usually think back to how dried out I felt back then and wonder just how close to the limit these guys go.
theoutlawfan said:
AS crazy as going from 195 - 170 sounds it's not un heard of. With a smart plan for cutting weight Barroni should be able to make the 171 that he needs to. Forrest cuts about that same amount of weight for every fight.
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Its easier for bigger people to cut weight. You know how hard it is for someone that fights at 135 lbs to cut 5 lbs......
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theoutlawfan said:
AS crazy as going from 195 - 170 sounds it's not un heard of. With a smart plan for cutting weight Barroni should be able to make the 171 that he needs to. Forrest cuts about that same amount of weight for every fight.
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Its easier for bigger people to cut weight. You know how hard it is for someone that fights at 135 lbs to cut 5 lbs......
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true I should have used a more relevant example. How about Thiago Alves he cuts from more than 195 and fights at 170
I just think weight cutting is something mma could do without. I think we'd see more exciting fights if people were 100% healthy and focused instead of being worried about cutting weight. It's like my spanish class... i have like.... 170 assignments to do, and f--- me if the class isn't over in a couple of weeks... but i'm gonna end up doing most or getting my wife to "help" me before the class ends and then hope for the best on the final exam.
TheVileOne said:
7time, I don't believe there is.
I checked Phil Baroni's MySpace and it said last login 10/23/09.
Unless this is a different part of his MySpace page.
I think gmd is lying and is trying to start crap unless he posts a legitimate source.
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Yup i smell BS.
Although 195 is not that huge anyway. He's no Rumble Johnson. But no where except on this forum has this story mentioned