BasRutten: The legend speaks !!
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feijaofan said:
Rutten is out of line if he's going with that forum myth of "Lesnar can't take a punch".
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I think that depends on your definition of "take". If not going unconscious is what you consider as being able to TAKE a punch, well, there you go.... he can take a punch. If you look beyond that, though, and notice how effective he is after being hit and whether or not he even knows what to do, then Bas and the forums are right, he cannot "take" a punch and look even remotely like he knows what he's doing afterwards! So, in that respect, I'd say he can't take a punch.
Cain4shizzle said:
feijaofan said:
Rutten is out of line if he's going with that forum myth of "Lesnar can't take a punch".
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I think that depends on your definition of "take". If not going unconscious is what you consider as being able to TAKE a punch, well, there you go.... he can take a punch. If you look beyond that, though, and notice how effective he is after being hit and whether or not he even knows what to do, then Bas and the forums are right, he cannot "take" a punch and look even remotely like he knows what he's doing afterwards! So, in that respect, I'd say he can't take a punch.
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The uppercut that Carwin caught him with probably would have put any other HW on their *** sleeping. Lesnar's striking defense can be struck for that, but getting rocked and looking goofy in survival mode doesn't mean much, considering he survived. Beyond that, I'd say the right punch will make any man respond in a strange manner -- look how Machida fell when Shogun clocked him, look how GSP ran like a chicken with jello legs when Serra put the beats to 'em -- heavy leather is heavy leather.
feijaofan said:
Cain4shizzle said:
feijaofan said:
Rutten is out of line if he's going with that forum myth of "Lesnar can't take a punch".
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I think that depends on your definition of "take". If not going unconscious is what you consider as being able to TAKE a punch, well, there you go.... he can take a punch. If you look beyond that, though, and notice how effective he is after being hit and whether or not he even knows what to do, then Bas and the forums are right, he cannot "take" a punch and look even remotely like he knows what he's doing afterwards! So, in that respect, I'd say he can't take a punch.
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The uppercut that Carwin caught him with probably would have put any other HW on their *** sleeping. Lesnar's striking defense can be struck for that, but getting rocked and looking goofy in survival mode doesn't mean much, considering he survived. Beyond that, I'd say the right punch will make any man respond in a strange manner -- look how Machida fell when Shogun clocked him, look how GSP ran like a chicken with jello legs when Serra put the beats to 'em -- heavy leather is heavy leather.
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The uppercuts Shane hit Frank with.... THAT is heavy leather, my friend. The one Lesnar took a bite of was a lunging attempt that didn't land until it was nearing the end of it's arc as Lesnar was already in back up mode. It's simple, really.
A. A truck hits a parked car
b. Same truck hits same car as the car is backing up
c. Same truck hits same car as car is accelerating towards it
Which of the three causes more damage to the vehicles??
I think the Cain fight showed one thing very clear.... had the uppercut actually landed, Lesnar would have crumpled to the floor where he stood. Lesnar took a few forearms while turtled but by then Shane was already operating with a half tank of gas.
Props to Lesnar for protecting his head as well as he did. Unfortunately for him, though, he most likely won't face another HW with Carwin cardio which should free him up in time for this years Wreslemania.
Gokan Saki to MMA DAMN!!! I would love to see him KO a couple guys, message to Ghokan work on wrestling. And it's pretty obvious Lesnar needs stand up in a bad way, learning to cover up and move is one thing they'll teach him at golden glory hole. PLUS he would be the best wrestler for all the heavies to roll with. he would learn a ton and prob come back and take his belt if he went to a camp like that.
Cain4shizzle said:
The (uppercut) Lesnar took a bite of was a lunging attempt that didn't land until it was nearing the end of it's arc as Lesnar was already in back up mode. It's simple, really.
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"Lunging attempt that didn't land until..."...you couldn't be any further from correct, sir. Jeremy Stephens and Junior Dos Santos knocked guys out with the same kind of distant uppercut. Care to say those were compact/lunging/flukes from Mars? I don't think you would. And Lesnar blocked his temples not his face so the uppercut got through pretty clean, I don't get why you act like it's the opposite...
Wait...
Cain4shizzle said:
Unfortunately for him, though, he most likely won't face another HW with Carwin cardio which should free him up in time for this years Wreslemania.
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Caught me a hater! Never mind.