Bellator Judging

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: April 16, 2011 at 11:10 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bellator-judging.37874/

Figured this could have it's own thread since it seems to be coming up at most of their fights.
Went to a few play by play sites, and they've so far had the first 2 rounds to Gavlao... Sherdog, 5oz...
Honestly though, and not trying to incite, but it does seem "dishonest".

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Magson13
Date: April 16, 2011 at 11:12 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bellator-judging.37874/

Who were the judges for this fight?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: GOODNIGHTIRENE
Date: April 16, 2011 at 11:14 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bellator-judging.37874/

hawn/good
imada/curran
hieron was too marketable to lose to weedman
hornbuckle vs weedman
grabowski vs someone, i jsut remember it was a bs decision
they all seem to favor marketing. i mean doesnt it look good for frausto to beat the top japanes women fighter in mma, like they grew their own star in frausto......
:? :? :?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: JonnyF
Date: April 16, 2011 at 11:15 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bellator-judging.37874/

Typical MMA judging.
You have to finish posterboys and challengers being hyped up for title fights if you want to win.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: April 16, 2011 at 11:16 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bellator-judging.37874/

Magson13 said:
Who were the judges for this fight?
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It will be here probably pretty soon:
http://www.mmadecisions.com:80/decisions_by_event.jsp
it's a really good site.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: April 16, 2011 at 11:18 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bellator-judging.37874/

GOODNIGHTIRENE said:
hieron weedman
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Counter punching should only score you points if you don't receive all the damage... :lol:

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: feijaofan
Date: April 16, 2011 at 11:21 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bellator-judging.37874/

Jak said:
http://www.mmadecisions.com:80/decisions_by_event.jsp
it's a really good site.
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Was just wondering who gave Brilz/Nog to Brilz...good looking place, thanks.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: abc0331
Date: April 16, 2011 at 11:44 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bellator-judging.37874/

Dana paid the judges.
God! Dana.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Brulesrules001
Date: April 16, 2011 at 11:51 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bellator-judging.37874/

Even though I agree the Warren call was a bad call, it's not the worst call ever. 30-27 Warren is the worst. Wtf? Who was that judge?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ahrn
Date: April 16, 2011 at 11:57 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bellator-judging.37874/

I agree that the 3rd round was def Warren, 2nd round def Galvao , first round was close. I had it 29-28 Galvao, so I'm not terribly mad at the 2 judges who had it 29-28 Warren. But like the post above me, WTMF!! Who could have possibly given that 2nd round to Warren?!? Just awful.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ahrn
Date: April 17, 2011 at 12:09 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bellator-judging.37874/

Jak said:
Magson13 said:
Who were the judges for this fight?
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It will be here probably pretty soon:
http://www.mmadecisions.com:80/decisions_by_event.jsp
it's a really good site.
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30-27 Judge is "Chuck Wolfe". :roll: :roll: :roll: He's never judged any other card according to that site. Hopefully we never see him judge another.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: REDRUM
Date: April 17, 2011 at 09:17 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bellator-judging.37874/

i thought Hawn beat Good .... BUT the Warren deciosion felt like a bigger robbery in my mind than a Leonard Garcia fight... it was awful

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: buffaloblue
Date: April 17, 2011 at 09:32 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bellator-judging.37874/

whys it only bellator, its the commissions, but I do agree, recently its been particularly bad in bellator.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: AgoniesCreep
Date: April 17, 2011 at 10:37 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bellator-judging.37874/

I don't like Warrens big mouth but, he's usually a great fighter so I was rooting for him last night. NO WAY DID HE WIN THAT FIGHT!

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: 68Whiskey
Date: April 17, 2011 at 10:53 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bellator-judging.37874/

It really seems like to beat a belt holder in a non title fight you would have to finish them because that was a pretty lousy decision.
I didn't even think the first round was close, Warren got thrown around, mounted, kneed, and ragdolled.
I like Bellator but this is getting out of hand

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: dante1011
Date: April 17, 2011 at 11:31 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bellator-judging.37874/

last night was the first time i saw warren fight and me and my dad kept asking whats so good about this guy hes like chris leben granite chin but with wrestling that looked horrible last night until the 3rd he should have lost there was no way warren won round one he ended up on his back 4-5 times failing at takedowns im sorry but that fight was fixed and a judge having it 30-27 proves it Galvao deserved to win and got robbed warren needs to shut up with the baddest man on the planet crap cause aldo would murder him

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: April 17, 2011 at 11:54 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bellator-judging.37874/

dante1011 said:
whats so good about this guy hes like chris leben granite chin but with wrestling that looked horrible last night until the 3rd he should have lost there was no way warren won round one he ended up on his back 4-5 times failing at takedown
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it's too bad because one of the best things last night was watching Galvao's defence to a Olympic Calibre wrestler, especially since Warren wasn't able to adapt through the first 2 rounds.
And secondly, who takes that many direct knees to the chin and doesn't flinch. That chin is unreal.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: chriscrowing
Date: April 17, 2011 at 12:01 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bellator-judging.37874/

I seriously dislike the implication that this is a BELLATOR problem as opposed to a general problem throughout MMA, as ZUFFA and Strikeforce events have been plagued with dubious decisions in the recent past as well.
The judges are not appointed or influenced by the promoters of any given event, therefore the issues with dubious officiating are more to do with the loosely defined judging criteria, many judges lack of familiarity with MMA as a whole and the general lack of consistent professionalism displayed by the SACs.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: April 17, 2011 at 12:11 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bellator-judging.37874/

chriscrowing said:
I seriously dislike the implication that this is a BELLATOR problem as opposed to a general problem throughout MMA, as ZUFFA and Strikeforce events have been plagued with dubious decisions in the recent past as well.
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The reason it is brought up as a Bellator issue, is because this season alone we've had Hieron, Weedman, Hawn and Warren all get decisions that didn't seem right. Zuffa takes a s--- load of criticism as well, Garcia fights, Machida fights, etc... but it's very well discussed when it's a UFC fight.
Dana White usually at least is vocal about the decisions, Rebney never seems to mind, coincidentally enough it's usually his marketable fighters getting the pass.
chriscrowing said:
many judges lack of familiarity with MMA as a whole and the general lack of consistent professionalism displayed by the SACs.
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Maybe he just hasn't judged a lot, but the guy who gave a 30-27 score, has no other cards under his belt on MMAdecisions .com which shows each judges career/decisions and seems to be pretty on the ball. Maybe they've missed some by him, but if you check out the site, they're pretty thorough.
But that also leads to another issue. If a judge lacks familiarity with the sport, why are they being paid to judge it?
One of the posts on the main page points out that even though SAC's appoint judges, it doesn't mean corruption can't happen. We all know sports well enough to know where there is money involved, people will find a way. Not saying that's what's happening, but we can't be niave to think it can't happen.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: gzfzvz
Date: April 17, 2011 at 12:48 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bellator-judging.37874/

Fixed judging seems logical, but is it even possible? Like would one of the people related to the CEO of bellator call the commission or the individual judges and offer them money?