best grapplers

Originally posted by: jrmmachamp
Date: April 09, 2011 at 11:02 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-grapplers.37544/
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GOODNIGHTIRENE said:
no eddie bravo=THREAD FAIL
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where would u put him. his not in mma, his not active and i dont think he iss one of the best ever
 
Originally posted by: jrmmachamp
Date: April 09, 2011 at 11:04 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-grapplers.37544/
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moriresvivir said:
I can't believe Masahiko Kimura wasn't added to this legendary list.
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my fault i completly forgot about kimura and jigoro kano
 
Originally posted by: magnuml
Date: April 09, 2011 at 02:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-grapplers.37544/
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reghartner said:
magnuml said:
Jacare and Roger Gracie are at the top..Jacare has beat him 2 out of 3 times..Roger has also beat Maia..
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im going by wikipedia, but i thought the count was roger 3-2
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29-4 Win Raphael Lovato Jr. Submission Pan American Jiu-Jitsu Championship 2006
28-4 Win Vinicius Maghalhaes Submission Pan American Jiu-Jitsu Championship 2006
27-4 Loss Ronaldo Souza Points (2-0) World Jiu-Jitsu Championship (Absolute Division) 2005 Final
27-3 Win Alexandre Ribeiro Points (12-2) World Jiu-Jitsu Championship (Super Heavyweight Division) 2005 Final
26-3 Win Fernando “Margarida” Pontes Submission World Jiu-Jitsu Championship 2005
25-3 Win Saulo Ribeiro Submission World Jiu-Jitsu Championship 2005 Semi-Final
24-3 Win Ronaldo Souza Points European Open Championship (Absolute Division) 2005 Final
23-3 Win Roberto Abreu Submission European Open Championship 2005
22-3 Win Rodrigo Solueo Submission European Open Championship 2005
21-3 Win Ronaldo Souza Submission (Rear Naked Choke) ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (Absolute Division) 2005 Final
20-3 Win Alexandre Ribeiro Submission (Rear Naked Choke) ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (Absolute Division) 2005 Semi Final
19-3 Win Fabricio Werdum Submission (Rear Naked Choke) ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (Absolute Division) 2005 Quarter Final
18-3 Win Shinya Aoki Submission (Foot Lock) ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (Absolute Division) 2005 Elimination Round
17-3 Win Alexandre Ferreira Submission (Quit on Stool) ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (88–98 kg Division) 2005 Final
16-3 Win Alexandre Ribeiro Submission (Rear Naked Choke) ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (88–98 kg Division) 2005 Semi Final
15-3 Win Eduardo Telles Submission (Armbar) ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (88–98 kg Division) 2005 Quarter Final
14-3 Win Justin Garcia Submission (Rear Forearm Choke) ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (88–98 kg Division) 2005 Elimination Round
13-3 Loss Ronaldo Souza Points World Jiu-Jitsu Championship (Absolute Division) 2004 Final
13-2 Win Rodrigo Medeiros Submission (Rear Naked Choke) World Jiu-Jitsu Championship (Super Heavyweight Division) 2004 [2] Final
12-2 Win Fernando "Tererê" Augusto Submission (Choke from Mount) World Jiu-Jitsu Championship 2004
11-2 Win Marcelo Garcia Points World Jiu-Jitsu Championship (Absolute Division) 2004
10-2 Win Recardo Franco Submission World Jiu-Jitsu Championship (Super Heavy) 2004
9-2 Win Roberto Agnese Submission World Jiu-Jitsu Championship (Absolute Division) 2004
8-2 Win Leonardo Ramos Submission World Jiu-Jitsu Championship (Absolute Division) 2004
7-2 Loss Marcio Cruz Points (3-0) World Jiu-Jitsu Championship (Absolute Division) 2003 Final
7-1 Win Alexandre Ribeiro ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (88–98 kg Division) 2003 Third Place Match
6-1 Loss Jon Olav Einemo ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (88–98 kg Division) 2003 Semi Final
6-0 Win Rigan Machado ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (88–98 kg Division) 2003 Quarter Final
5-0 Win Mario Sperry ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (88–98 kg Division) 2003 Elimination Round
4-0 Win Marcio Corleta Points ?
3-0 Win Demian Maia Points Brazilian Teams Championship 2002 Roger: Brown Belt, Demian: Black Belt
He beat Jacare in 2002 the first time they fought..
 
Originally posted by: EdoKaz818
Date: April 09, 2011 at 03:12 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-grapplers.37544/
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idk how anyone can even argue that Aoki is not the best LW JJ guy out there.
weve seen him grapple f--- plenty of black belts and submit top 10 LWs with straight JJ.
 
Originally posted by: REDRUM
Date: April 09, 2011 at 04:27 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-grapplers.37544/
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magnuml said:
reghartner said:
magnuml said:
Jacare and Roger Gracie are at the top..Jacare has beat him 2 out of 3 times..Roger has also beat Maia..
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im going by wikipedia, but i thought the count was roger 3-2
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29-4 Win Raphael Lovato Jr. Submission Pan American Jiu-Jitsu Championship 2006
28-4 Win Vinicius Maghalhaes Submission Pan American Jiu-Jitsu Championship 2006
27-4 Loss Ronaldo Souza Points (2-0) World Jiu-Jitsu Championship (Absolute Division) 2005 Final
27-3 Win Alexandre Ribeiro Points (12-2) World Jiu-Jitsu Championship (Super Heavyweight Division) 2005 Final
26-3 Win Fernando “Margarida” Pontes Submission World Jiu-Jitsu Championship 2005
25-3 Win Saulo Ribeiro Submission World Jiu-Jitsu Championship 2005 Semi-Final
24-3 Win Ronaldo Souza Points European Open Championship (Absolute Division) 2005 Final
23-3 Win Roberto Abreu Submission European Open Championship 2005
22-3 Win Rodrigo Solueo Submission European Open Championship 2005
21-3 Win Ronaldo Souza Submission (Rear Naked Choke) ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (Absolute Division) 2005 Final
20-3 Win Alexandre Ribeiro Submission (Rear Naked Choke) ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (Absolute Division) 2005 Semi Final
19-3 Win Fabricio Werdum Submission (Rear Naked Choke) ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (Absolute Division) 2005 Quarter Final
18-3 Win Shinya Aoki Submission (Foot Lock) ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (Absolute Division) 2005 Elimination Round
17-3 Win Alexandre Ferreira Submission (Quit on Stool) ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (88–98 kg Division) 2005 Final
16-3 Win Alexandre Ribeiro Submission (Rear Naked Choke) ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (88–98 kg Division) 2005 Semi Final
15-3 Win Eduardo Telles Submission (Armbar) ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (88–98 kg Division) 2005 Quarter Final
14-3 Win Justin Garcia Submission (Rear Forearm Choke) ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (88–98 kg Division) 2005 Elimination Round
13-3 Loss Ronaldo Souza Points World Jiu-Jitsu Championship (Absolute Division) 2004 Final
13-2 Win Rodrigo Medeiros Submission (Rear Naked Choke) World Jiu-Jitsu Championship (Super Heavyweight Division) 2004 [2] Final
12-2 Win Fernando "Tererê" Augusto Submission (Choke from Mount) World Jiu-Jitsu Championship 2004
11-2 Win Marcelo Garcia Points World Jiu-Jitsu Championship (Absolute Division) 2004
10-2 Win Recardo Franco Submission World Jiu-Jitsu Championship (Super Heavy) 2004
9-2 Win Roberto Agnese Submission World Jiu-Jitsu Championship (Absolute Division) 2004
8-2 Win Leonardo Ramos Submission World Jiu-Jitsu Championship (Absolute Division) 2004
7-2 Loss Marcio Cruz Points (3-0) World Jiu-Jitsu Championship (Absolute Division) 2003 Final
7-1 Win Alexandre Ribeiro ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (88–98 kg Division) 2003 Third Place Match
6-1 Loss Jon Olav Einemo ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (88–98 kg Division) 2003 Semi Final
6-0 Win Rigan Machado ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (88–98 kg Division) 2003 Quarter Final
5-0 Win Mario Sperry ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (88–98 kg Division) 2003 Elimination Round
4-0 Win Marcio Corleta Points ?
3-0 Win Demian Maia Points Brazilian Teams Championship 2002 Roger: Brown Belt, Demian: Black Belt
He beat Jacare in 2002 the first time they fought..
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Its kinda cool seeing Jon Olav Einemo take on Carwin... Jon Olav Einemo handed Roger a loss in ADCC (albeit in the absolute division)
 
Originally posted by: reghartner
Date: April 09, 2011 at 04:42 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-grapplers.37544/
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magnuml said:
reghartner said:
magnuml said:
Jacare and Roger Gracie are at the top..Jacare has beat him 2 out of 3 times..Roger has also beat Maia..
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im going by wikipedia, but i thought the count was roger 3-2
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27-4 Loss Ronaldo Souza Points (2-0) World Jiu-Jitsu Championship (Absolute Division) 2005 Final
24-3 Win Ronaldo Souza Points European Open Championship (Absolute Division) 2005 Final
21-3 Win Ronaldo Souza Submission (Rear Naked Choke) ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship (Absolute Division) 2005 Final
13-3 Loss Ronaldo Souza Points World Jiu-Jitsu Championship (Absolute Division) 2004 Final
He beat Jacare in 2002 the first time they fought..
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am i missing something? i'm right...3 W 2 L for roger. maybe you don't realize what you wrote originally. you said "Jacare has beat him 2 out of 3 times"
 
Originally posted by: jaktucke
Date: April 09, 2011 at 05:46 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-grapplers.37544/
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jrmmachamp said:
GOODNIGHTIRENE said:
no eddie bravo=THREAD FAIL
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where would u put him. his not in mma, his not active and i dont think he iss one of the best ever
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This. Bravo made his name off of subbing a Gracie ONE TIME, and a high school wrestling move. He also refused every rematch with Royler after he tapped him. If he's so great, why wouldn't he take a rematch? I won't argue that he's not a phenomenal grappler, but he is certainly not one of the best 20 or 30 ever.
 
Originally posted by: magnuml
Date: April 09, 2011 at 06:02 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-grapplers.37544/
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reghartner...
Sorry..that is why i posted it....Brain fart.
 
Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: April 09, 2011 at 09:47 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-grapplers.37544/
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PsychoIcon said:
GOODNIGHTIRENE said:
no eddie bravo=THREAD FAIL
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I agree, and also I think people give grapplers too much credit for being good grapplers.
I think the Gracies get way to much credit for being the Basis for the sport alah ambassadors of it. Teaching is alot different then full on action. I love the Gracies but they get way to much credit for beating up Ken Shamrock for a couple years.
Also GSP isnt on this list and hes one of the best takedown, gnp, ground control fighters in the game.
I agree with the rest of the list, but Grappling is sucha broad question...
Phil Davis is a great wrestler grappler... Rashad Evans...
This list could go on and on, Randy Couture... Geezus, for miles...
You said Grappler not submission artist.
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he asked questions about mma grappling and non mma grappling...
those good wrestlers grapplers would get grapplefuck in a grappling competition by most sub grapplers... And dont even try to say naaa.. ben askren, one of the best wrstlers of all time couldnt even win the purple belt class at the no gi worlds... they are light years behind the top submission grapplers.. LIGHT YEARS.
 
Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: April 09, 2011 at 09:54 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-grapplers.37544/
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jrmmachamp said:
in mma = demian maia, jacare, bj penn , jon fitch, gsp , sheilds, werdum, fedor, big nog, vinny magahlais, roger gracie, robert drysdale
outside of mma [active]= nino schembri , marcelo garcia,caio terra, jeff glover, xande ribero, dave camarillo
best grapplers ever = rickson gracie, carlos gracie jr. , the machado brothers, gokor chivichyan, gene labbell, and finally helio gracie
tell me what u guys think.
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mma: Jacare, Maia, Werdum, Roger, GSP, aoki, shileds.
Non MMA: Roger Gracie, marcelo, Romulo, Braulio, De mente abreu, marcelo, popovich, caio terra, hell thers too many...
Best grappler ever: Roger (sorry rickson)... theres a bunch of ppl that will have a valid argument to say they are next, but the n1 spot belongs to roger, by far.
 
Originally posted by: EdoKaz818
Date: April 09, 2011 at 10:21 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-grapplers.37544/
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*cough cough*
never doubt AOki best LW JJ guy!
 
Originally posted by: MMAGuruLV
Date: April 12, 2011 at 09:20 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-grapplers.37544/
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Till mainstream mma is introduced to Chris Holdsworth anyway.
 
Originally posted by: REDRUM
Date: April 12, 2011 at 09:38 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-grapplers.37544/
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bjj_rage said:
jrmmachamp said:
in mma = demian maia, jacare, bj penn , jon fitch, gsp , sheilds, werdum, fedor, big nog, vinny magahlais, roger gracie, robert drysdale
outside of mma [active]= nino schembri , marcelo garcia,caio terra, jeff glover, xande ribero, dave camarillo
best grapplers ever = rickson gracie, carlos gracie jr. , the machado brothers, gokor chivichyan, gene labbell, and finally helio gracie
tell me what u guys think.
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mma: Jacare, Maia, Werdum, Roger, GSP, aoki, shileds.
Non MMA: Roger Gracie, marcelo, Romulo, Braulio, De mente abreu, marcelo, popovich, caio terra, hell thers too many...
Best grappler ever: Roger (sorry rickson)... theres a bunch of ppl that will have a valid argument to say they are next, but the n1 spot belongs to roger, by far.
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Great list but id have Rickson over Roger... Rickson's only recorded loss was in a Sambo tourney.. I mean comon' son lol
 
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