Best of Cesar Gracie Camp?

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: BabyJayKoscheck
Date: April 11, 2011 at 06:30 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-of-cesar-gracie-camp.37697/

Who is the top guy out of the Cesar Gracie fight camp? I would think it would be between Gil, Nick and Jake.
Man is that tough I'll take Nick though. I just love his fighting style.
Who would like to see Nick/Gil at like 165 (never happen I know) but how great would that be?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gnarcore
Date: April 11, 2011 at 06:31 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-of-cesar-gracie-camp.37697/

I think Gil is the best fighter for his division.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: JonnyRico
Date: April 11, 2011 at 06:32 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-of-cesar-gracie-camp.37697/

Jake is a top p4p fighter

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: FullItalian
Date: April 11, 2011 at 06:33 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-of-cesar-gracie-camp.37697/

Jake has done more than both Nick and Gil, plus hes went up in weight to beat quality opponents.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Tgilb2007
Date: April 11, 2011 at 06:53 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-of-cesar-gracie-camp.37697/

Going with Jake as well. While the rest of the guys might have better striking, Jake is the superior grappler 10x. Not only with BJJ, but even his wrestling.
Fought in several different weight classes as well.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: benaskrenfan
Date: April 11, 2011 at 06:57 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-of-cesar-gracie-camp.37697/

It's without a doubt Jake Shields or Nick Diaz, I'd choose Jake though because he has more solid wins.
Gilbert Melendez doesn't really come close to those two, and I can picture them dominating him with relative ease in practice.
Nick Diaz is the best striker at 170 while Jake is the best grappler at 170. After Jake taps GSP out at UFC 129 in front of thousands of Canadian fans I think Jake will have this debate possibly sealed, as Nick will refuse to fight his good friend and fellow team mate.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: 68Whiskey
Date: April 11, 2011 at 07:02 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-of-cesar-gracie-camp.37697/

Jake Shields
He has accomplished so much more in his career
He's moved weight classes and held several titles.
Okami
Condit
Pyle
Thompson
Daley
Lawler
Miller
Henderson
Kampmann
Way more impressive

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Galgorian
Date: April 11, 2011 at 07:22 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-of-cesar-gracie-camp.37697/

benaskrenfan said:
It's without a doubt Jake Shields or Nick Diaz, I'd choose Jake though because he has more solid wins.
Gilbert Melendez doesn't really come close to those two, and I can picture them dominating him with relative ease in practice.
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Both would have a significant weight advantage on Gil, so its no suprise they would dominate him in the gym.
Based on P4P skill I'd rank them Jake, Gilbert, Diaz from 1st - 3rd.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: EdoKaz818
Date: April 11, 2011 at 07:33 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-of-cesar-gracie-camp.37697/

I choose Gil but i would say Jake now that i read some of what you guy are saying.
jake is easily a top p4p fighter

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MoJoJo
Date: April 11, 2011 at 08:38 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-of-cesar-gracie-camp.37697/

FullItalian said:
Jake has done more than both Nick and Gil, plus hes went up in weight to beat quality opponents.
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Technically he started his career at 185.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Iamnotalie
Date: April 11, 2011 at 08:58 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/best-of-cesar-gracie-camp.37697/

Shields has world class BJJ and good wrestling, hasn't shown good striking
Diaz has world class BJJ and striking, hasn't shown good wrestling
Melendez has great striking, wrestling, and BJJ
Seems to me that Gil is the most complete fighter, while Diaz and Shields have disciplines where they can dominate just about anyone. As someone said in one of these threads yesterday, if they could cross-train skills they all could be P4P best.