GOODNIGHTIRENE said:
the reem would have a massive advantage in the clinch. but reem likes to block like he has 16 oz gloves on, and doesnt have the best chin.... he got rocked by Tyrone Spong....who gets rocked by tyrone spong?
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Quite a few kick boxers!
JDS might have the better hands but Reem has the knees and kicks. Their boxing is just so different in style that it becomes hard to say which is better, JDS lets his hands go more and throws combinations but Reem rarely throws anymore than single punches because he seems to always wanting to have his guard up on his chin. Overall Reem is better and I hope he beats Lesnar so we get to see this match up.
TheSituation said:
keystone said:
Reem barely won the striking battle with werdum
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It's called a game plan. Happens a lot in MMA, you should watch it sometime.
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what is this, i dont even....
Originally posted by: RearNakedSlam Date: November 17, 2011 at 06:14 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/better-striker-jds-or-the-reem.43353/
Against other opponents, JDS, against each other, Reem, unless of course JDS decides to threaten some takedowns to force Reems striking to become tentative at which time JDS will assault Reem with a vicious series of punches and put him away.
derek666 said:
Overeem on paper has the better striking BUT Overeem also turtles as fast if not faster than brock when he doen't like what is happening in a fight. JDS hits him it will be all over! but like wolf said, his Uberknee is deadly! If Brock gets Reem down, he will tap as fast as his brother did, but if he hits Brock once, it will be over just as quickly!
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Bullsh*t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is not his brother and a fight with him and JDS would be great and i think it would be who got in the big punch first. JDS has a great flow to his punches and Overeem has the technique and both have great power. Should be a great fight if it happens. I think Overeem being at X-treme Couture will make a big differance for Overeem but it is not a long time, but he is at the right place. Lesner on the other hand can not be tought how to take a punch without turtleing up. NO CURE!!! Overeem as Big and strong of a bully as he is. Should be good. Lesner sure did seem nervous when he watched what JDS did to Cain. he can not beat either one of them no matter what happens with the Reem. he will be gone to the WWE very soon.
I think Junior Dos Santos has the best hands in the HW division, but the Reem is a more well rounded striker, with kicks, and most esp.
knees.
Let's see how good JDS's striking is in the clinch
Originally posted by: ncprimiani11 Date: November 17, 2011 at 11:49 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/better-striker-jds-or-the-reem.43353/
JDS will have no chance to take him down or hold him down if he gets him down.
Overeem is the better striker by far, especially when he clinches.
And he will have a five inch reach advantage.
If this fight happens, I am going to bet my entire life savings and most of my organs on Overeem.
SasquatchShaman said:
JDS will have no chance to take him down or hold him down if he gets him down.
Overeem is the better striker by far, especially when he clinches.
And he will have a five inch reach advantage.
If this fight happens, I am going to bet my entire life savings and most of my organs on Overeem.
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I wouldn't go that far. Junior can scramble and is a lot more elusive. His hands are incredibly fast and powerful. That being said, Reem just has vicious all around tools. He reacts so much better to getting hit(something that he even said has taken his entire career). I'm not concered about his chin like some are. The dude has been put away by brutal shots throughout his career. If he clinches with Junior, the fight is probably over. My only issue is the speed of Junior. If the fight happens, he would need to focus on moving in and out of the pocket. Overeem would get frustrated, imo.
mabrown45 said:
This almost reminds me of a "who's the better wrestler Gsp or fitch?" Sure one has credentials but that sometimes means nothing
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Give this man some dap! He is correct.
Neonep said:
mabrown45 said:
This almost reminds me of a "who's the better wrestler Gsp or fitch?" Sure one has credentials but that sometimes means nothing
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Give this man some dap! He is correct.
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That and who was the better striker between Jens pulver and Joe lauzon? Pulver...but that didn't mean s---.
Originally posted by: ResoluteProtector Date: November 18, 2011 at 02:03 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/better-striker-jds-or-the-reem.43353/
Neonep said:
mabrown45 said:
This almost reminds me of a "who's the better wrestler Gsp or fitch?" Sure one has credentials but that sometimes means nothing
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Give this man some dap! He is correct.
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FAIL.
Credentials in this case offer the most objective stance. Everything else is opinion based. And the stance of who has better wrestling St. Pierre of Fitch could just as easily be stated to the effect of who has the better wrestling Fitch or Pierce.
Originally posted by: SilvaP4PKing Date: November 18, 2011 at 07:51 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/better-striker-jds-or-the-reem.43353/
ResoluteProtector said:
Credentials in this case offer the most objective stance. Everything else is opinion based.
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Nah they don't. Overeem's Credentials overrate him A LOT. The k-1 tourney was like a gift from gods, but it made him (and others) believe he is the best striker in the world.
Originally posted by: ResoluteProtector Date: November 18, 2011 at 08:17 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/better-striker-jds-or-the-reem.43353/
SilvaP4PKing said:
ResoluteProtector said:
Credentials in this case offer the most objective stance. Everything else is opinion based.
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Nah they don't. Overeem's Credentials overrate him A LOT. The k-1 tourney was like a gift from gods, but it made him (and others) believe he is the best striker in the world.
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Thanks for helping prove my point.
Originally posted by: SilvaP4PKing Date: November 18, 2011 at 08:31 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/better-striker-jds-or-the-reem.43353/
ResoluteProtector said:
SilvaP4PKing said:
ResoluteProtector said:
Credentials in this case offer the most objective stance. Everything else is opinion based.
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Nah they don't. Overeem's Credentials overrate him A LOT. The k-1 tourney was like a gift from gods, but it made him (and others) believe he is the best striker in the world.
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Thanks for helping prove my point.
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It is not my opinion that Overeem had an easy path at k-1 and fought injuried/tired from previous fights fighters, no badr hari, etc. It is just common knowledge.
