Originally posted by: untouchableF Date: November 05, 2009 at 04:21 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/betting-the-house-safer-bet-mousasi-or-fedor.19135/
Originally posted by: SPX Date: November 05, 2009 at 04:28 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/betting-the-house-safer-bet-mousasi-or-fedor.19135/
Fedor is Fedor. He does not lose. He's the greatest fighter in the history of the sport. Brett Rogers is . . . well, he's Brett Rogers.
Mousasi looks a lot more human to me than Fedor.
Originally posted by: JonnyF Date: November 05, 2009 at 04:31 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/betting-the-house-safer-bet-mousasi-or-fedor.19135/
Originally posted by: schmacko Date: November 05, 2009 at 04:48 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/betting-the-house-safer-bet-mousasi-or-fedor.19135/
I'd say Mousasi is the safer bet because it's much easier to evaluate his opponent.
Betting on Fedor is "slightly" more of a gamble because there are just a lot of unknowns about Brett Rogers. How good is Brett's chin? How good is his ground game? Takedown defense? How much has he improved since becoming a full-time fighter? He's never been past round two before how good is his cardio? We really don't know the answer to a lot of these things just some specualtion. To me betting on Fedor is like betting soley on his hype (not saying he doesn't deserve it) and not factoring in his opponent much at all.
Fedor isn't exactly a technical striker and he has been rocked before. He has many years of martial arts training over Brett and this is honestly the type of freak show fight that he excels at. On paper he should crush Brett, but I just look at Fedor and he always seems complacent as hell (could just be his facial expression) and Brett looks hungry to me. That type of match up makes me nervous. I fully expect Fedor to win but there's a degree of uncertainty to the fight that I just don't see when I look upon the Mousasi/Soko match up. I see no way for soko to win that fight.
In my opinion though neither of these are the biggest lock on the card. I think that award goes to Jeff Curran over Dustin Neace on the undercard.
Originally posted by: ZedzDead Date: November 05, 2009 at 05:34 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/betting-the-house-safer-bet-mousasi-or-fedor.19135/
Both seem pretty safe to me, altho Mousasi feels a little safer because he's facing Soko, Brett Rogers has more of a punchers chance imo, but I believe he will be completly exposed on the ground. This is the first time I have bet over .5 units on a parlay, I went pretty big on Mousasi and Fedor to win.
Originally posted by: GuidaClayAllDay Date: November 05, 2009 at 08:05 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/betting-the-house-safer-bet-mousasi-or-fedor.19135/
schmacko said:
In my opinion though neither of these are the biggest lock on the card. I think that award goes to Jeff Curran over Dustin Neace on the undercard.
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Been waiting an eternity for Curran/Neace to open at the books. I was hoping Curran might open at an affordable price after losing 4 in a row...but I doubt it.
Originally posted by: SPX Date: November 05, 2009 at 10:24 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/betting-the-house-safer-bet-mousasi-or-fedor.19135/
Originally posted by: GuidaClayAllDay Date: November 05, 2009 at 11:05 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/betting-the-house-safer-bet-mousasi-or-fedor.19135/
SPX said:
What's the deal with Jeff Curran? He must have been officially released from the WEC. . .
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I didn't hear anything about him getting cut. His contract was probably up...and after 4 losses I guess the WEC didn't want to resign him.
He could easily be the WEC featherweight belt holder if the talent pool in the WEC 145lb division wasn't so incredibly stacked. He's got a chance to win Strikeforce gold if they can sign more featherweights. Going to Strikeforce was probably the best thing he could do...because I don't see him ever beating Faber or Brown.
Originally posted by: MoDogg Date: November 05, 2009 at 11:41 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/betting-the-house-safer-bet-mousasi-or-fedor.19135/
schmacko said:
I'd say Mousasi is the safer bet because it's much easier to evaluate his opponent.
Betting on Fedor is "slightly" more of a gamble because there are just a lot of unknowns about Brett Rogers. How good is Brett's chin? How good is his ground game? Takedown defense? How much has he improved since becoming a full-time fighter? He's never been past round two before how good is his cardio? We really don't know the answer to a lot of these things just some specualtion. To me betting on Fedor is like betting soley on his hype (not saying he doesn't deserve it) and not factoring in his opponent much at all.
Fedor isn't exactly a technical striker and he has been rocked before. He has many years of martial arts training over Brett and this is honestly the type of freak show fight that he excels at. On paper he should crush Brett, but I just look at Fedor and he always seems complacent as hell (could just be his facial expression) and Brett looks hungry to me. That type of match up makes me nervous. I fully expect Fedor to win but there's a degree of uncertainty to the fight that I just don't see when I look upon the Mousasi/Soko match up. I see no way for soko to win that fight.
In my opinion though neither of these are the biggest lock on the card. I think that award goes to Jeff Curran over Dustin Neace on the undercard.
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this is a good summary. I think Mousasi is the better bet, but if you wanted why not divide what you would bet and put half on each.
Originally posted by: SPX Date: November 05, 2009 at 11:45 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/betting-the-house-safer-bet-mousasi-or-fedor.19135/
GuidaClayAllDay said:
I didn't hear anything about him getting cut. His contract was probably up...and after 4 losses I guess the WEC didn't want to resign him.
He could easily be the WEC featherweight belt holder if the talent pool in the WEC 145lb division wasn't so incredibly stacked. He's got a chance to win Strikeforce gold if they can sign more featherweights. Going to Strikeforce was probably the best thing he could do...because I don't see him ever beating Faber or Brown.
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Nah, man. Jeff Curran won't beat Faber or Brown. That's for sure. But like you say, you can't deny his talent. He's a skilled fighter, but in the WEC he's a . . . I don't know that I'd say a journeyman, but you know what I saying.
Originally posted by: Sheriff Date: November 06, 2009 at 04:25 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/betting-the-house-safer-bet-mousasi-or-fedor.19135/
Both Fedor and Mousasi are almost guaranteed money. There's always the odd possibility one of them slips and breaks his leg or something. I'd pick the one with the better odds.
Originally posted by: zY Date: November 07, 2009 at 12:03 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/betting-the-house-safer-bet-mousasi-or-fedor.19135/
GuidaClayAllDay said:
SPX said:
What's the deal with Jeff Curran? He must have been officially released from the WEC. . .
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I didn't hear anything about him getting cut. His contract was probably up...and after 4 losses I guess the WEC didn't want to resign him.
He could easily be the WEC featherweight belt holder if the talent pool in the WEC 145lb division wasn't so incredibly stacked. He's got a chance to win Strikeforce gold if they can sign more featherweights. Going to Strikeforce was probably the best thing he could do...because I don't see him ever beating Faber or Brown.
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He was in fact cut from the WEC. He was on Beatdown the other day and confirmed that.