BJJ came from judo

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Originally posted by: karateshotokan
Date: March 13, 2009 at 09:48 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bjj-came-from-judo.11516/

jitjutsu came from judo. judo as we all know is a sport speciallize in take down skills, but you have to remember in judo there is a submission game as well. that why fedor is good at submissions. he trains in judo and samba. look at the submission aspect of judo from youtube, you can get more info on it. this aspect is advanced in jitjutsu and then jijustu was introduce to a brazilian fellow who then called it brazillian jitjutsu .
 
Originally posted by: MCM
Date: March 13, 2009 at 10:41 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bjj-came-from-judo.11516/

Judo came from JuJitsu.
this is from Judoinfo.com
Kodokan Judo comes to us from the fighting system of feudal Japan. Founded in 1882 by Dr. Jigoro Kano, Judo is a refinement of the ancient martial art of Jujutsu. Dr. Kano, President of the University of Education, Tokyo, studied these ancient forms and integrated what he considered to be the best of their techniques into what is now the modern sport of Judo.
Ive trained Judo and yeah, the ground game is definitely there. JuJitsu has more of a technical ground game but Judo will sure as itshay get the job done.
 
Originally posted by: Showdown
Date: March 13, 2009 at 11:04 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bjj-came-from-judo.11516/

BJJ came from Judo. This is 100% correct. Judo came from Japanese JJ, this is 100% correct. Judo did NOT come from BJJ, and alot of the names that are used in BJJ(Kimura,etc) had Japanese names 1st(Ude Garami)
BJJ is based mostly on ground work, so therefore, that martial art is going to be more dominant on the ground(Plus Judo orgs, despite what many Judokas would prefer, have strayed from the ground game)
Standing, Judo fighters are going to be more dominant than BJJ guys.
Fedor is a dominant fighter on the ground due to Sambo and Judo, which do utilize the ground game.
Showdown wins :geek:
 
Originally posted by: MCM
Date: March 13, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bjj-came-from-judo.11516/

didn't BJJ come from Japanese JJ not Judo?
I want my win back
 
Originally posted by: Showdown
Date: March 13, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bjj-came-from-judo.11516/

You cant have it back :x
History of Brazilian Jiujitsu
Origin
The art began with Mitsuyo Maeda (aka Conde Koma, or Count Combat in English), an expert
Japanese judoka and member of the Kodokan
. Maeda was one of five of the Kodokan's top groundwork experts that Judo's founder Kano Jigoro sent overseas to spread his art to the world. Maeda left Japan in 1904 and visited a number of countries[2] giving "jiu-do" demonstrations and accepting challenges from wrestlers, boxers, savate fighters and various other martial artists before eventually
arriving in Brazil on November 14, 1914
.[4]
 
Originally posted by: BRAD
Date: March 13, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bjj-came-from-judo.11516/

karateshotokan said:
samba
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Samba origins
The origin of samba is from an Afro-American couples dance, including capoeira, which was from certain circle dances that originated from Angola and the Congo. Characteristic of the umbigada or folk samba is the way the couples dance navel to navel. In its origins, singing always accompanied the dancing. [1] Just as important is influence from Portugal and Europe, from where come samba's relatively intricate harmonies and harmonic instrumentation.
Samba first appeared as a distinctive kind of music at the beginning of the 20th century in Rio de Janeiro (then the capital of Brazil) under the strong influence of immigrant black people from the Brazilian state of Bahia.[2] The title samba school (escola de samba) originates from samba's formative years. The term was adopted by larger groups of samba performers in an attempt to lend acceptance to samba and its performance; local campuses were often the practice/performance grounds for these musicians and these escolas gave early performers a sense of legitimacy and organization to offset samba's somewhat controversial talking atmosphere.
Despite some similarities, jazz and samba have distinctively different origins and line of development - one of the factors which adds to this is that Brazilian slave owners allowed their slaves to continue their heritage of playing drums (unlike U.S. slave owners who feared use of the drum for communications).
"Pelo Telefone" (1917), by Donga and Mauro Almeida, is generally considered the first samba recording. Its great success carried the new genre outside the black favelas. Who created the music is uncertain, but it was likely the work of the group around Tia Ciata, among them Pixinguinha and João da Bahiana.[2]
Brazil is the fifth largest country in the world and is the birth place of the Samba. Much of the music in the heavily populated coastal areas shows a remarkable combination of African, Native Indian, and Iberian influences.< Modern Samba was developed from an earlier Brazilian musical style called Choro. Both Samba the dance and music can take many forms, from the vivacious call response of samba de enredo, the music of Carnaval to samba-canção or song samba, a more relaxed guitar and rhythm variant. Bossa Nova, which translates to New Wave, hit America big time in the Sixties with "The Girl From Ipanema". This song by the legendary composer Antonio Carlos Jobim became a classic in jazz and elevator music. In the 16th century, the Portuguese discovered on the east coast of South America, a place they called the January River (Rio de Janeiro). Colonists soon settled and as the colony prospered, slaves were brought from south-west Africa to work in the plantations of Bahia, in the north-east of what became Brazil. To adherents of the Afro-Brazilian religion, Candomble, Samba means to pray, to invoke your personal orixa (god/saint). The African rhythms enveloped in Latino music came from the Yoruba, Congo and other West African people, who were transported to the New World as slaves. In their homeland the rhythms were used to call forth various gods. Candomble preserves these rhythms to this day! It is these rhythms that has heavily influenced Brazilian music making Samba a unique genre of music.
wikipedia.org
 
Originally posted by: Showdown
Date: March 13, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bjj-came-from-judo.11516/

^ Did someone hack into your account?!?!?!? :lol:
Edit-Nevermind, seen you were correcting one of our fellow spelling teachers.
 
Originally posted by: MCM
Date: March 13, 2009 at 11:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bjj-came-from-judo.11516/

Showdown said:
You cant have it back :x
History of Brazilian Jiujitsu
Origin
The art began with Mitsuyo Maeda (aka Conde Koma, or Count Combat in English), an expert
Japanese judoka and member of the Kodokan
. Maeda was one of five of the Kodokan's top groundwork experts that Judo's founder Kano Jigoro sent overseas to spread his art to the world. Maeda left Japan in 1904 and visited a number of countries[2] giving "jiu-do" demonstrations and accepting challenges from wrestlers, boxers, savate fighters and various other martial artists before eventually
arriving in Brazil on November 14, 1914
.[4]
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*&($#@%^$":?!!!!
[throws laptop on ground] :evil:
 
Originally posted by: BRAD
Date: March 13, 2009 at 11:29 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bjj-came-from-judo.11516/

Showdown said:
^ Did someone hack into your account?!?!?!? :lol:
Edit-Nevermind, seen you were correcting one of our fellow spelling teachers.
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oh wait you mean im not on the rythmndancejunkie forums
 
Originally posted by: Showdown
Date: March 13, 2009 at 11:44 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bjj-came-from-judo.11516/

BRAD said:
Showdown said:
^ Did someone hack into your account?!?!?!? :lol:
Edit-Nevermind, seen you were correcting one of our fellow spelling teachers.
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oh wait you mean im not on the rythmndancejunkie forums
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That one was closed down due to lack of traffic.
MCM said:
Showdown said:
You cant have it back :x
History of Brazilian Jiujitsu
Origin
The art began with Mitsuyo Maeda (aka Conde Koma, or Count Combat in English), an expert
Japanese judoka and member of the Kodokan
. Maeda was one of five of the Kodokan's top groundwork experts that Judo's founder Kano Jigoro sent overseas to spread his art to the world. Maeda left Japan in 1904 and visited a number of countries[2] giving "jiu-do" demonstrations and accepting challenges from wrestlers, boxers, savate fighters and various other martial artists before eventually
arriving in Brazil on November 14, 1914
.[4]
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*&($#@%^$":?!!!!
[throws laptop on ground] :evil:
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It happens to the best of us
 
Originally posted by: filipino
Date: March 13, 2009 at 11:50 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bjj-came-from-judo.11516/

Geez, Show, I thought you said you didn't know your history that well - then you go and give a lesson!
 
Originally posted by: Showdown
Date: March 13, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bjj-came-from-judo.11516/

filipino said:
Geez, Show, I thought you said you didn't know your history that well - then you go and give a lesson!
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I spent the past few hours downloading stuff into my brain. I have Road Runner, so the speeds were fairly decent
 
Originally posted by: Shock-G
Date: March 13, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bjj-came-from-judo.11516/

Poor karateshotokan. He was probably planing this thread for 14 days, lol.......
 
Originally posted by: karateshotokan
Date: March 14, 2009 at 01:07 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bjj-came-from-judo.11516/

what planing this thread. listen i am interested in the traditional aspect of mma and needed to know more about it.
 
Originally posted by: Gordon
Date: March 14, 2009 at 01:16 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bjj-came-from-judo.11516/

Gordon said:
:lol:
Mcm wins!
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*edit*
Showdown wins because he's orange.
Sorry mcm! I thought with a source you'd take this one.
 
Originally posted by: Showdown
Date: March 14, 2009 at 02:57 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bjj-came-from-judo.11516/

karateshotokan said:
what planing this thread. listen i am interested in the traditional aspect of mma and needed to know more about it.
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Feel free to PM me if you have any more questions about Judo. I know more of that art than any other.
 
Originally posted by: ArcArsenal
Date: March 14, 2009 at 03:49 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bjj-came-from-judo.11516/

karateshotokan said:
what planing this thread. listen i am interested in the traditional aspect of mma and needed to know more about it.
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What? Bull. If you wanted to know more about traditional martial arts, there would have been a question somewhere in your post. Anywhere. Buuuuut, there wasn't. You didn't want to know more about it, you just wanted to talk up traditional martial arts, which seems to be your agenda here.
 
Originally posted by: Johnny419
Date: March 14, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/bjj-came-from-judo.11516/

Showdown said:
You cant have it back :x
History of Brazilian Jiujitsu
Origin
The art began with Mitsuyo Maeda (aka Conde Koma, or Count Combat in English), an expert
Japanese judoka and member of the Kodokan
. Maeda was one of five of the Kodokan's top groundwork experts that Judo's founder Kano Jigoro sent overseas to spread his art to the world. Maeda left Japan in 1904 and visited a number of countries[2] giving "jiu-do" demonstrations and accepting challenges from wrestlers, boxers, savate fighters and various other martial artists before eventually
arriving in Brazil on November 14, 1914
.[4]
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Maeda...so is Yoshiro Maeda a descendent of his???? (For those who have forgotten he fought Miguel Torres at WEC 34) I am curious about this.
 
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