Booing in America but not Japan

Originally posted by: ctownwhat
Date: October 14, 2008 at 03:12 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/booing-in-america-but-not-japan.6614/

ShadyCambo said:
Anunnaki-777 said:
Japanese are simply pacifists by culture. Americans are not.
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If the Japanese are pacifists, what the hell was Pearl Harbor? Ask the the Chinese, Koreans, and Filipino's what they think about Japanes pacifism. Man that comment just screams of ignorance.
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Pearl Habour was manufactured by your country, to get your country into the war!
War = $$$ when you're winning. War does not equal money when you're in Iraq.... Well it does, but not for your country, just for Haliburton
 
Originally posted by: ShadyCambo
Date: October 14, 2008 at 03:28 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/booing-in-america-but-not-japan.6614/

ctownwhat said:
Pearl Habour was manufactured by your country, to get your country into the war!
War = $$$ when you're winning. War does not equal money when you're in Iraq.... Well it does, but not for your country, just for Haliburton
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File this theory with the second gunman on the grassy knoll, 9/11 was an inside job, and the moon landing was faked. What the hell are you talking about? America went and made sure Japan murdered a few thousand military personnell as well as approx 50 civilians to get in a war that they were close to getting into in the first place do to their close ties to France and especially England.
 
Originally posted by: squib
Date: October 14, 2008 at 04:49 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/booing-in-america-but-not-japan.6614/

The Japanese have to deal with a really high population density without killing one another. They learn to get along in very tight, crowded situations, by keeping their opinions to themselves rather than risk creating conflict.
We thrive on conflict. A "boo" in the english-speaking world is probably something inherited from the Romans, meaning - kill that lousy bastard. In our more civilized times, I think we're throwing a challenge down to the fighter, or fighters.
The European crowds are pretty insane - they were singing and doing the wave at one of the UFC events in the UK. They sing throughout entire football matches. That might be true for a lot of Europe. And South America. The fans killed a goalie and a referee over soccer in Columbia I think it was. In India, several cricket player's homes were burned down in a riot due to poor showing at the previous tests.
A little booing isn't all that bad in the scheme of things.
 
Originally posted by: Koos
Date: October 14, 2008 at 04:59 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/booing-in-america-but-not-japan.6614/

Feel free not to cheer for a fight that seems boring but I think if you boo you should be asked to get in the cage/ring and have the fighters kick your *** to liven things up a bit. If the person is unwilling to do their part to add some excitement they have to leave.
 
Originally posted by: gorilla_squat
Date: October 14, 2008 at 05:48 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/booing-in-america-but-not-japan.6614/

I wonder what its like for a fighter and that kind of experience in Japan or in America. What would be going through your mind with the crowd all silent then boom.... the place is exploding. Or more so in america.... where it is just non-stop cheering. Makes me want to ask a figher such as wandy or rampage what the difference is like and if it effects there actions in the ring/octagon.
 
Originally posted by: ShadyCambo
Date: October 14, 2008 at 06:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/booing-in-america-but-not-japan.6614/

Koos said:
Feel free not to cheer for a fight that seems boring but I think if you boo you should be asked to get in the cage/ring and have the fighters kick your *** to liven things up a bit. If the person is unwilling to do their part to add some excitement they have to leave.
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Screw that, if you paid for tickets, parking, and concessions and you don't think you are getting your dollar's worth than you have every right to boo. Hell I'll go one further you not only have the right it's your responsibility to boo.
 
Originally posted by: Ace23
Date: October 14, 2008 at 06:25 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/booing-in-america-but-not-japan.6614/

Personally I dont boo, I think the guys who get in there put a lot of work & effort into preparing for the fight.
If someone else boo's I have no problem with it. The tickets are $400-$800.
You can do whatever you want paying that and you feel the product was a let down.
 
Originally posted by: dizie
Date: October 14, 2008 at 07:24 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/booing-in-america-but-not-japan.6614/

Koos said:
Feel free not to cheer for a fight that seems boring but I think if you boo you should be asked to get in the cage/ring and have the fighters kick your *** to liven things up a bit. If the person is unwilling to do their part to add some excitement they have to leave.
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Try paying $300-$700 Tickets before you post this ignorant remark.
 
Originally posted by: Cavediver
Date: October 14, 2008 at 07:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/booing-in-america-but-not-japan.6614/

dizie said:
Koos said:
Feel free not to cheer for a fight that seems boring but I think if you boo you should be asked to get in the cage/ring and have the fighters kick your *** to liven things up a bit. If the person is unwilling to do their part to add some excitement they have to leave.
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Try paying $300-$700 Tickets before you post this ignorant remark.
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x's 2
 
Originally posted by: Brick
Date: October 14, 2008 at 08:32 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/booing-in-america-but-not-japan.6614/

You can tell the "fans" who have never participated in a combat sport in their lives. Just look for the booing.
 
Originally posted by: Cavediver
Date: October 14, 2008 at 09:05 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/booing-in-america-but-not-japan.6614/

The reason Japanese don't boo is because they don't have Trailer Parks in Japan......... :lol:
 
Originally posted by: squib
Date: October 15, 2008 at 06:08 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/booing-in-america-but-not-japan.6614/

gorilla_squat said:
I wonder what its like for a fighter and that kind of experience in Japan or in America. What would be going through your mind with the crowd all silent then boom.... the place is exploding. Or more so in america.... where it is just non-stop cheering. Makes me want to ask a figher such as wandy or rampage what the difference is like and if it effects there actions in the ring/octagon.
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Apparently, the fighters don't really notice. The fight takes most of their concentration - they barely hear their corners in a lot of cases.
bloodlust's like that.
 
Originally posted by: Koos
Date: October 15, 2008 at 10:39 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/booing-in-america-but-not-japan.6614/

dizie said:
Koos said:
Feel free not to cheer for a fight that seems boring but I think if you boo you should be asked to get in the cage/ring and have the fighters kick your *** to liven things up a bit. If the person is unwilling to do their part to add some excitement they have to leave.
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Try paying $300-$700 Tickets before you post this ignorant remark.
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I have.
We all know not every fight on the card is always going to be exciting to all fans. If your not satisfied with the majority of the fights being "crowd pleasers" then I guess you should stop ignorantly wasting your money.
 
Originally posted by: ShadyCambo
Date: October 15, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/booing-in-america-but-not-japan.6614/

Brick said:
You can tell the "fans" who have never participated in a combat sport in their lives. Just look for the booing.
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Here we go again, it was only a matter of time before someone brought up the "you don't train, you don't know s---" argument. Brick, I know you're smarter than that. It's not about who participates and who doesn't. I've never been a professional chef but when I pay for a meal at a restaurant and it sucks, I let it be known. My opinion counts not because of vast experience in MMA, but because I along with the 20,000 others who attend the fight have disposable income that all promotions are trying to get a piece of. We live in a great time when we have so many options for our entertainment dollar, that I shouldn't have to put up with boring *** fights. Would you not have booed Kalib Starnes? Why do MMA fans think they are so much more sophisticated than other sports fans?
 
Originally posted by: kobeVSraja
Date: October 15, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/booing-in-america-but-not-japan.6614/

booing when the fihgt sucks is understandable but what gets me is when ppl boo because they are on the ground :roll:
 
Originally posted by: Brick
Date: October 15, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/booing-in-america-but-not-japan.6614/

ShadyCambo said:
Brick said:
You can tell the "fans" who have never participated in a combat sport in their lives. Just look for the booing. ?
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Here we go again, it was only a matter of time before someone brought up the "you don't train, you don't know s**t" argument
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Please don't misrepresent my argument. I never said that those who don't train don't know s---...in fact, in other threads I have made arguments to the contrary, pointing out that people like Bob Costas can be great NFL announcers, etc. My complaint is not with analysis and commentary from those who don't train, which is appropriate, but with booing, which is not.
ShadyCambo said:
Would you not have booed Kalib Starnes?
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No I would not have booed Kalib Starnes, but I certainly understand why those who would boo him do so. That is an extreme example (an ultra-extreme one at that) and I don't think you will find many who have a problem with the boos thrown at Starnes. If we were talking about booing during an event like that, or during something like Arlovski/Sylvia III, then there probably would not be much disagreement.
But you know damn well that booing starts flowing even when the two fighters are bringing it any time there is a momentary lull in the action. That crap makes my physically angry when I'm at an event an it occurs. It shows a total lack of understanding of the effort being undertaken by the participants, hence my comment that those who train/fight generally don't boo. Watch most of the CA events for an example of what I am talking about...first round of the first fight, you are almost sure to hear the idiots in the crowd booing regardless of the circumstances if it hits the ground or if someone doesn't throw a punch for five seconds or so.
 
Originally posted by: FamilyGuy
Date: October 15, 2008 at 01:08 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/booing-in-america-but-not-japan.6614/

Cavediver said:
The reason Japanese don't boo is because they don't have Trailer Parks in Japan......... :lol:
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Post of the day right there!!!
 
Originally posted by: kobeVSraja
Date: October 15, 2008 at 01:22 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/booing-in-america-but-not-japan.6614/

FamilyGuy said:
Cavediver said:
The reason Japanese don't boo is because they don't have Trailer Parks in Japan......... :lol:
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Post of the day right there!!!
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OMG ROTGLMFAO!!! :lol: :lol:
 
Originally posted by: ShadyCambo
Date: October 15, 2008 at 01:24 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/booing-in-america-but-not-japan.6614/

Brick said:
ShadyCambo said:
Brick said:
You can tell the "fans" who have never participated in a combat sport in their lives. Just look for the booing. ?
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Here we go again, it was only a matter of time before someone brought up the "you don't train, you don't know s**t" argument
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Please don't misrepresent my argument. I never said that those who don't train don't know s**t...in fact, in other threads I have made arguments to the contrary, pointing out that people like Bob Costas can be great NFL announcers, etc. My complaint is not with analysis and commentary from those who don't train, which is appropriate, but with booing, which is not.
ShadyCambo said:
Would you not have booed Kalib Starnes?
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No I would not have booed Kalib Starnes, but I certainly understand why those who would boo him do so. That is an extreme example (an ultra-extreme one at that) and I don't think you will find many who have a problem with the boos thrown at Starnes. If we were talking about booing during an event like that, or during something like Arlovski/Sylvia III, then there probably would not be much disagreement.
But you know damn well that booing starts flowing even when the two fighters are bringing it any time there is a momentary lull in the action. That crap makes my physically angry when I'm at an event an it occurs. It shows a total lack of understanding of the effort being undertaken by the participants, hence my comment that those who train/fight generally don't boo. Watch most of the CA events for an example of what I am talking about...first round of the first fight, you are almost sure to hear the idiots in the crowd booing regardless of the circumstances if it hits the ground or if someone doesn't throw a punch for five seconds or so.
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If you are attending an event, you have the right to boo whenever you feel like it. That's my point. You don't have the right throw things, jump railings and cause a disturbance, but booing is just an expression of dissappointment. If you don't like what you see, whether you understand it or not, you are still a paying customer and allowed to express your displeasure through booing. If hearing people boo makes you physically upset than maybe you need anger management. There is nothing wrong with a crowd that boos, in America a quiet crowd is worse than a booing crowd because a queit crowd shows a total disinterest.
 
Originally posted by: Brick
Date: October 15, 2008 at 01:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/booing-in-america-but-not-japan.6614/

ShadyCambo said:
If you are attending an event, you have the right to boo whenever you feel like it. That's my point.
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No one is saying (at least I'm not) you don't have a "right," as if you should not be allowed, or should be banned or thrown out or something. I'm just saying I don't like it, nor typically do fans who are involved in some aspect of the sport. I am embarrassed for our sport when it occurs, as new fans might see this and think they are watching something akin to a WWE match or something, and flip the channel.
Go back to my original statement:
ShadyCambo said:
You can tell the "fans" who have never participated in a combat sport in their lives. Just look for the booing.
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Simply meaning that those who train and know what's involved typically detest booing and don't boo. That's it, all I'm saying.
I have no problem agreeing to disagree on whether booing is "appropriate." Like in politics, neither side is likely to change the other's mind. You will always who have people who feel booing is an appropriate form of expression at a fight, and those who feel it is classless and ignorant.
 
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