Brock Lesnar Wrestling Opinion
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Agreed with Indianawrestler. He had great technique with it, not just power/strength. Anyone who says he muscled his way to a division one title is an obvious idiot. Do you think when he was training all they did was just muscle opponents to the ground and not teach him any technique?
Lesnar has haters in anything he's ever done or competed in, including outside of mixed martial arts. It's a bit ridicolous.
Brock Lesnar is a good wrestler and anyone who doubts is very ignorant.
With that said he is a great wrestler. My father ( Scott Hall aka Razor Ramone ) was a pro wrestler who used to take me on the road with him all the time so i got a chance to hang around with pretty much every wrestler in the game.
When Brock first came ( this was like the second or third day he joined the WWE ) before a show one day he was saying he was hot s--- and challenged Kurt Angle to a match ( amatuer wrestling best of ten takedowns in the ring).
Kurt Angle whooped his ***, i swear to god i was there and can testify that i saw Kurt Angle takedown Brock Lesnar who at the time had eighty pounds on him down six times in a row in dominating fashion.
Eighty pounds is a astronomical number to give up in weight in a wrestling match but apparently its not equvielant to a olmpic gold medal.
tyler_durden said:
Brock Lesnar is a good wrestler and anyone who doubts is very ignorant.
With that said he is a great wrestler. My father ( Scott Hall aka Razor Ramone ) was a pro wrestler who used to take me on the road with him all the time so i got a chance to hang around with pretty much every wrestler in the game.
When Brock first came ( this was like the second or third day he joined the WWE ) before a show one day he was saying he was hot s**t and challenged Kurt Angle to a match ( amatuer wrestling best of ten takedowns in the ring).
Kurt Angle whooped his ***, i swear to god i was there and can testify that i saw Kurt Angle takedown Brock Lesnar who at the time had eighty pounds on him down six times in a row in dominating fashion.
Eighty pounds is a astronomical number to give up in weight in a wrestling match but apparently its not equvielant to a olmpic gold medal.
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Well, there are a number of issues there, one is that Kurt Angle is definitely a better freestyle wrestler than Lesnar, I mean, he was the best in the world at 220 lbs. Lesnar really should have known better, and despite all the questions about how nature Lesnar (as big as he is), Lesnar probably challenged Angle at the height of Angle's steroid and pain killer use, so Lesnar probably didn't enjoy much of a strength advantage, either.
But, ultimately, it just means one thing: Kurt Angle is a bad man.
tyler_durden said:
Brock Lesnar is a good wrestler and anyone who doubts is very ignorant.
With that said he is a great wrestler. My father ( Scott Hall aka Razor Ramone ) was a pro wrestler who used to take me on the road with him all the time so i got a chance to hang around with pretty much every wrestler in the game.
When Brock first came ( this was like the second or third day he joined the WWE ) before a show one day he was saying he was hot s**t and challenged Kurt Angle to a match ( amatuer wrestling best of ten takedowns in the ring).
Kurt Angle whooped his ***, i swear to god i was there and can testify that i saw Kurt Angle takedown Brock Lesnar who at the time had eighty pounds on him down six times in a row in dominating fashion.
Eighty pounds is a astronomical number to give up in weight in a wrestling match but apparently its not equvielant to a olmpic gold medal.
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You must have some great stories and memories? Your Dad used to scare the crap outta me when I was younger.
tyler_durden said:
Brock Lesnar is a good wrestler and anyone who doubts is very ignorant.
With that said he is a great wrestler. My father ( Scott Hall aka Razor Ramone ) was a pro wrestler who used to take me on the road with him all the time so i got a chance to hang around with pretty much every wrestler in the game.
When Brock first came ( this was like the second or third day he joined the WWE ) before a show one day he was saying he was hot s**t and challenged Kurt Angle to a match ( amatuer wrestling best of ten takedowns in the ring).
Kurt Angle whooped his ***, i swear to god i was there and can testify that i saw Kurt Angle takedown Brock Lesnar who at the time had eighty pounds on him down six times in a row in dominating fashion.
Eighty pounds is a astronomical number to give up in weight in a wrestling match but apparently its not equvielant to a olmpic gold medal.
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I don't believe you. I know wrestling like the back of my hand, and I just don't believe it. I have seen both Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar in their amateur wrestling days, and they are both pretty damn good. However, when you both almost equal on speed, technique, and strength, then the heavier guy will always win, especially at a 80 pound advantage.
Also, if you want to say Brock Lesnar muscled his way to the top, then wtf happened with Monson? I wrestled heavyweight in high school when I weighed about 200 pounds. There was always a 80 pound disadvantage for me in the matches. If the other guy was about he same experience as me, he would just smother me with his weight. If the other guy was less experienced, I would always win. There was the one guy who was about 6' 6, 275 pounds, and told me he benched over 400 pounds, but this was his first year wrestling. I was 5' 11, 200 pounds, benched 210, and was in my fourth year. I couldn't pin him cause he kept pushing me off him, but you get the idea. Strength never beats technique.
MrEko74 said:
tyler_durden said:
Brock Lesnar is a good wrestler and anyone who doubts is very ignorant.
With that said he is a great wrestler. My father ( Scott Hall aka Razor Ramone ) was a pro wrestler who used to take me on the road with him all the time so i got a chance to hang around with pretty much every wrestler in the game.
When Brock first came ( this was like the second or third day he joined the WWE ) before a show one day he was saying he was hot s**t and challenged Kurt Angle to a match ( amatuer wrestling best of ten takedowns in the ring).
Kurt Angle whooped his ***, i swear to god i was there and can testify that i saw Kurt Angle takedown Brock Lesnar who at the time had eighty pounds on him down six times in a row in dominating fashion.
Eighty pounds is a astronomical number to give up in weight in a wrestling match but apparently its not equvielant to a olmpic gold medal.
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I don't believe you. I know wrestling like the back of my hand, and I just don't believe it. I have seen both Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar in their amateur wrestling days, and they are both pretty damn good. However, when you both almost equal on speed, technique, and strength, then the heavier guy will always win, especially at a 80 pound advantage.
Also, if you want to say Brock Lesnar muscled his way to the top, then wtf happened with Monson? I wrestled heavyweight in high school when I weighed about 200 pounds. There was always a 80 pound disadvantage for me in the matches. If the other guy was about he same experience as me, he would just smother me with his weight. If the other guy was less experienced, I would always win. There was the one guy who was about 6' 6, 275 pounds, and told me he benched over 400 pounds, but this was his first year wrestling. I was 5' 11, 200 pounds, benched 210, and was in my fourth year. I couldn't pin him cause he kept pushing me off him, but you get the idea. Strength never beats technique.
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Good point tecnique does prevail over strength.
MrEko74 said:
Good point tecnique does prevail over strength.- Scott123
Hell yeah man.
This is how it always goes:
Technique>Explosiveness>Flexibility>Agility>Mindset>Strength
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I might move mindset up the ladder a notch? The mental game is huge!!!!!!!!!
Its been confirmed on several wrestling forums that in fact, Angle tooled Brock in a real wrestling match (freestyle), and anyone who knows anything about wrestling will believe it. Hell, I was a state placer at 171lbs, and I tech-falled our HWT (won 25-10) in a wrestling match. He went on to qualify at state that year. I wrestled up to 215lbs in a dual meet as well, was rather successful. Angle was a great free-style wrestler, and Brock, while being a great folkstyle wrestler, was no where near the level that Angle achieved.
IndianaWrestler said:
Its been confirmed on several wrestling forums that in fact, Angle tooled Brock in a real wrestling match (freestyle), and anyone who knows anything about wrestling will believe it. Hell, I was a state placer at 171lbs, and I tech-falled our HWT (won 25-10) in a wrestling match. He went on to qualify at state that year. I wrestled up to 215lbs in a dual meet as well, was rather successful. Angle was a great free-style wrestler, and Brock, while being a great folkstyle wrestler, was no where near the level that Angle achieved.
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I think anything confirmed by a wrestling forum should be placed in a steel container and lit on fire. It's not like "I have gone to the mountaintop and spoken to god". I think I'd rather have confirmation from Kurt Angle or Brock Lesnar than someone on a wrestling forum.
IndianaWrestler said:
Its been confirmed on several wrestling forums that in fact, Angle tooled Brock in a real wrestling match (freestyle), and anyone who knows anything about wrestling will believe it. Hell, I was a state placer at 171lbs, and I tech-falled our HWT (won 25-10) in a wrestling match. He went on to qualify at state that year. I wrestled up to 215lbs in a dual meet as well, was rather successful. Angle was a great free-style wrestler, and Brock, while being a great folkstyle wrestler, was no where near the level that Angle achieved.
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We had an amazing 171 wrestler at our school,which is 5A which is the hardest division. He placed first in state all 4 years he wrestled. The best I ever got was 3rd in Area at HWT, which only qualified me for state and I only weight 200. So I only had a 30 pound weight advantage, and I used to own this guy every day in practice. He had amazing technique, but my weight would smother him.
MrEko74 said:
IndianaWrestler said:
Its been confirmed on several wrestling forums that in fact, Angle tooled Brock in a real wrestling match (freestyle), and anyone who knows anything about wrestling will believe it. Hell, I was a state placer at 171lbs, and I tech-falled our HWT (won 25-10) in a wrestling match. He went on to qualify at state that year. I wrestled up to 215lbs in a dual meet as well, was rather successful. Angle was a great free-style wrestler, and Brock, while being a great folkstyle wrestler, was no where near the level that Angle achieved.
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We had an amazing 171 wrestler at our school,which is 5A which is the hardest division. He placed first in state all 4 years he wrestled. The best I ever got was 3rd in Area at HWT, which only qualified me for state and I only weight 200. So I only had a 30 pound weight advantage, and I used to own this guy every day in practice. He had amazing technique, but my weight would smother him.
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I think Royce Gracie answered the strength vs tecnique question???? Look at Fedor and Hong Man Choi
Scott123 said:
MrEko74 said:
IndianaWrestler said:
Its been confirmed on several wrestling forums that in fact, Angle tooled Brock in a real wrestling match (freestyle), and anyone who knows anything about wrestling will believe it. Hell, I was a state placer at 171lbs, and I tech-falled our HWT (won 25-10) in a wrestling match. He went on to qualify at state that year. I wrestled up to 215lbs in a dual meet as well, was rather successful. Angle was a great free-style wrestler, and Brock, while being a great folkstyle wrestler, was no where near the level that Angle achieved.
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We had an amazing 171 wrestler at our school,which is 5A which is the hardest division. He placed first in state all 4 years he wrestled. The best I ever got was 3rd in Area at HWT, which only qualified me for state and I only weight 200. So I only had a 30 pound weight advantage, and I used to own this guy every day in practice. He had amazing technique, but my weight would smother him.
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I think Royce Gracie answered the strength vs tecnique question???? Look at Fedor and Hong Man Choi
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Wrestling is very very different from BJJ. Plus Hong Man Choi is one of the worst grapplers I have ever seen.
Brock is a good wrestler for MMA, He dominated HH who is a solid wrestler, when you compare Angle and Lesnar is not fair because Angle was the best in the world at one point, is like saying is BJ Penn a good a boxer as Paquiao, Pacman is the best in the world but BJ is one hell of a boxer for MMA, but Pacman would tool BJ in a boxing match my point is that Lesnar is a good not the best or even one of the best but he is a good wrestler maybe kinda like a young Dan Severn exept a lot bigger and faster.