Cain vs JDS - UFC on FOX - media lunch

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Originally posted by: snakechamer
Date: September 16, 2011 at 09:15 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cain-vs-jds-ufc-on-fox-media-lunch.42100/

Interviews -
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/4ccjzCJhzqY[/youtube]
UFC FOX: JDS & Cain Velasquez On Thier Fight & Fighting Styles
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/eSuQBkn1YD8[/youtube]
Cain - The Cain interview was taken down. I"ll put it on as soon as it's back on Youtube.
Fighter predict the fight
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/tpQ6vXfuDyk[/youtube]
 
Originally posted by: juan_m3
Date: September 16, 2011 at 10:44 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cain-vs-jds-ufc-on-fox-media-lunch.42100/

In that video above of Zuffa fighters giving their predictions, I was VERY surprised how many said Cain will win. In fact it was like everyone except Roy Nelson picking Cain so like 10-12 Cain to 1 JDS. And most seemed quite sure in their prediction.
For me, I lean towards Cain but not decisively and it should be very competitive. If Cain wasn't coming off the rotator cuff surgery long layoff, I'd be quite confident with him winning (especially with the soaring confidence coming off the domination of Brock).
 
Originally posted by: Cory81
Date: September 16, 2011 at 10:56 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cain-vs-jds-ufc-on-fox-media-lunch.42100/

That shoulder is the biggest question mark. If it's 100%, Cain should be a clear favorite for his chin, takedowns and non-stop motor.
 
Originally posted by: ResoluteProtector
Date: September 16, 2011 at 11:03 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cain-vs-jds-ufc-on-fox-media-lunch.42100/

A lot of respect being shown between Cain and Junior in that first video.
Everyone save Roy going for Cain, has got to speak volumes. I guess Cain really is that good.
 
Originally posted by: snakechamer
Date: September 17, 2011 at 01:05 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cain-vs-jds-ufc-on-fox-media-lunch.42100/

new video
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/mH2afkOTmws[/youtube]
 
Originally posted by: Neonep
Date: September 17, 2011 at 01:19 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cain-vs-jds-ufc-on-fox-media-lunch.42100/

Nobody has faith in Junior I see.... Ok.
 
Originally posted by: CoffeeAndBeer
Date: September 17, 2011 at 01:58 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cain-vs-jds-ufc-on-fox-media-lunch.42100/

FadeToBlack said:
That shoulder is the biggest question mark. If it's 100%, Cain should be a clear favorite for his chin, takedowns and non-stop motor.
Click to expand...
If Velasquez gets Kongo'ed by Cigano... he wont recover.
Cigano wont give him the time to.
 
Originally posted by: micmeraz
Date: September 17, 2011 at 02:06 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cain-vs-jds-ufc-on-fox-media-lunch.42100/

Wow! I cant believe how many fighters are picking Cain. He is my favorite fighter but I have JDS as the favorite. He has the better hands, and i think hez bigger so he might b able to keep the fight standing. He couldnt knockout Roy or Carwin though so idk. If this fight goes into the later rounds tho, expect Cain to run through him. Wow..man I cant wait. Biggest FOTY right here. On FOX for free? You kidding me.
I still hope they can work something out with FOX and extend the hour special to 2 if not an extra 30min so we can see Bendo/Guida on FOX as well...before Cain/JDS so that can actually feel like the main event and not confuse some newbies.
Lets go Cain..you need to be vicious!!!!
 
Originally posted by: micmeraz
Date: September 17, 2011 at 02:09 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cain-vs-jds-ufc-on-fox-media-lunch.42100/

CoffeeAndBeer said:
FadeToBlack said:
That shoulder is the biggest question mark. If it's 100%, Cain should be a clear favorite for his chin, takedowns and non-stop motor.
Click to expand...
If Velasquez gets Kongo'ed by Cigano... he wont recover.
Cigano wont give him the time to.
Click to expand...
The current Cain would probably KO Kongo. His footwork, head movement, boxing, combos/kicks..have all improved drastically.
 
Originally posted by: sourpuss
Date: September 17, 2011 at 10:17 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cain-vs-jds-ufc-on-fox-media-lunch.42100/

ATTENTION NICK DIAZ:
WATCH THIS VIDEO VERY CAREFULLY. STUDY THESE DIFFICULT MOVES SO YOU CAN DO THEM NEXT TIME THEY ASK YOU TO. :roll:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/4ccjzCJhzqY[/youtube]
 
Originally posted by: CoffeeAndBeer
Date: September 17, 2011 at 11:44 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cain-vs-jds-ufc-on-fox-media-lunch.42100/

MightyMike said:
CoffeeAndBeer said:
FadeToBlack said:
That shoulder is the biggest question mark. If it's 100%, Cain should be a
clear favorite
for his chin, takedowns and non-stop motor.
Click to expand...
If Velasquez gets Kongo'ed by Cigano... he wont recover.
Cigano wont give him the time to.
Click to expand...
The current Cain would probably KO Kongo. His footwork, head movement, boxing, combos/kicks..have all improved drastically.
Click to expand...
The current Velasquez probably
still
gets tagged by Kongo,
is the issue
. His standup defense is not good. Velasquez has never looked untouchable--he's been tagged in the majority of the fight he's been in. Watch his 2nd fight (2006), watch the Kongo fight (2009), watch his latest fight... his game seemingly has consistently been: wade in,
take
a shot or two to deliver a shot or two, but get the takedown, top-control, harass, top-control. That's not gonna fly with Cigano.
"cardio" does NOT = Speed
Velasquez is not faster than Cigano.
Cigano is a relative tactician.
Velasquez will get touched.
Funny, one thing you didnt mention about Velasquez's improvement (you train at AKA or something, btw?) was his Jiu Jitsu/sub-game. It was Velasquez'
submissions
that were glaringly missing in that Kongo fight. He had Kongs's back for a good chunk of that fight and never even
attempted
to slap on a finishing choke (maybe one half-hearted one). Whether that's because it's an area of his game that is lacking, or if he just didnt want to risk giving up position, that still shows a lack of confidence.
Velasquez's 2nd fight (starts at about 2 mins in):
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/27OMhzXqkvc[/youtube]
 
Originally posted by: snakechamer
Date: September 17, 2011 at 04:12 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cain-vs-jds-ufc-on-fox-media-lunch.42100/

UFC on FOX: Cain On Ring Rust From Shoulder Injury
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/fFfPrpG0QtY[/youtube]
 
Originally posted by: TheVileOne
Date: September 17, 2011 at 04:23 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cain-vs-jds-ufc-on-fox-media-lunch.42100/

LOL, every fighter that was asked picked Cain over JDS except Roy Nelson. Hey Roy, JDS didn't knock out Shane Carwin either
.
 
Originally posted by: snakechamer
Date: September 20, 2011 at 05:05 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cain-vs-jds-ufc-on-fox-media-lunch.42100/

UFC on FOX press conference in L.A.
Pics =
fans asking questions.
the media -
 
Originally posted by: fishfryer
Date: September 20, 2011 at 06:47 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cain-vs-jds-ufc-on-fox-media-lunch.42100/

Nobody has faith in Junior I see.... Ok
Click to expand...
Few guys from Canada and the U.S. has faith in JDS, but I'm sure if your asked a dozen Brazilian fighters who's gonna win, the video would look a lot different.
Should be a great fight.
 
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