Can Anderson still take a punch?

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Originally posted by: Baron Anthès
Date: December 16, 2014 at 12:57 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/can-anderson-still-take-a-punch.64866/

This is what worries me going into the Diaz fight. Believe me, I think Anderson is the superior fighter on almost every front, but while I was initially leaning toward making a heavy bet on the Spider at -400 odds (which is past the point of wise betting on a favourite [which I put at around -333], but nevertheless) the more I think about it, the less sure I am.
Not to take anything away from Weidman's power and ability, but the two strikes that downed Silva were not connections that I would usually expect to down an opponent, let alone KO him like the first one did. The first one, the famous one, caught him weird, but he was out of it before the follow up. It didn't look that hard to me and while I don't think the fight was thrown like some idiots, I do think a lot of other fighters would have been considerably less fazed by that blow. The second one, in the second fight, was in the clinch, and not much of a power strike. The clinch tends to take a lot of torque out of punches too (just ask Alveraz after landing a dozen head shots on Cerrone), yet Anderson's eyes rolled up in his head and down he went, although he managed to survive.
Aging is one thing that can really undermine a fighter's chin and I'm wondering if that isn't a factor in what is going with Anderson. Lyoto took shots that looked way harder and came through.
Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if Anderson lighting KOs Diaz, but if Diaz can force even a couple brief exchanges where things get a bit sluggy, I could see him clipping Anderson and shocking everyone. Am I out to lunch here?
 
Originally posted by: 602Zoo
Date: December 16, 2014 at 01:06 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/can-anderson-still-take-a-punch.64866/

Weidmans left hook has KOed other fighters so its definately a lights out punch. Silva never really had his chin tested and Weidman caught him clowning around. I doubt Diaz will be the one to test it, being he usually fights at 170 and isnt known for 1 punch KO power, but fighting at 185 it will eventually. When Silva ruled the MW it wasnt anywhere near the division it is now, Im pulling for the old GOAT to make one last run but I wouldnt be surprised if he doesnt.
 
Originally posted by: kungfu_ghetto
Date: December 16, 2014 at 01:07 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/can-anderson-still-take-a-punch.64866/

dude, silva KOd himself
 
Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: December 16, 2014 at 01:12 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/can-anderson-still-take-a-punch.64866/

Silva will be fine. If he was smart in his training and didn't take any bad head shots, he'll have had over a year off from fighting and his brain will have had a decent amount of time to heal. Diaz isn't a once punch KO guy at all. He's a volume puncher. I don't think Silva will run into any chin issues with Diaz at all.
 
Originally posted by: Baron Anthès
Date: December 16, 2014 at 01:16 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/can-anderson-still-take-a-punch.64866/

602Zoo said:
Weidmans left hook has KOed other fighters so its definately a lights out punch.
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I'm sure that Weidman can KO anyone with a good left hook. What I'm saying is, the way that shot landed, it didn't look like a definitive KO shot.
 
Originally posted by: 67goat
Date: December 16, 2014 at 01:21 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/can-anderson-still-take-a-punch.64866/

Just because an attack looks weak, that doesn't mean it does. JDS threw a grazing head kick and KOd Hunt. That shot looked like it barely connected. Hunt is still considered to have a good chin.
When you have hard data about the actual force behind those punches, and exactly where they connected, then come back with theories.
 
Originally posted by: 602Zoo
Date: December 16, 2014 at 01:22 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/can-anderson-still-take-a-punch.64866/

I thought the same thing but after watching it a few more times it landed solid. Silva was already dazed from the puch Weidman landed just a few seconds before so Im sure that had something to do with it.
Hands down, chin up, dancing around, Weidman left hook.... Good night
 
Originally posted by: Baron Anthès
Date: December 16, 2014 at 01:33 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/can-anderson-still-take-a-punch.64866/

67goat said:
When you have hard data about the actual force behind those punches, and exactly where they connected, then come back with theories.
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Yeah, that's possible.
 
Originally posted by: Baron Anthès
Date: December 16, 2014 at 01:41 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/can-anderson-still-take-a-punch.64866/

Sedulous said:
Diaz isn't a once punch KO guy at all. He's a volume puncher.
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Originally posted by: Baron Anthès
Date: December 16, 2014 at 01:41 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/can-anderson-still-take-a-punch.64866/

Robbie Lawler is a push over tho.
 
Originally posted by: thedarkwingduck2k11
Date: December 16, 2014 at 01:46 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/can-anderson-still-take-a-punch.64866/

I'm more concern about his mental state. At the beginning of his rematch against weidman, he just sat down during the walkout for like a minute or two. I thought that was strangely out of routine and ominous.
 
Originally posted by: Sedulous
Date: December 16, 2014 at 01:47 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/can-anderson-still-take-a-punch.64866/

Baron Anthès said:
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Yep. A decade ago, Diaz landed a counter on a guy who leaned into his punch. That's not the point. The point is Diaz's style isn't a one punch KO style. He goes for volume over power.
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: December 16, 2014 at 01:48 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/can-anderson-still-take-a-punch.64866/

I think Silva rolls through Diaz with ease. I like Nick Diaz, one of my favourite fighters, but after watching Bobby Green and Nate Diaz's recent fights, i don't expect anything different from his fight.
I hope i'm wrong, but if those are the guys he's training with, how hard are they really training?
 
Originally posted by: darcebandit
Date: December 16, 2014 at 01:55 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/can-anderson-still-take-a-punch.64866/

1. Thing to note, a fighter's chin warms up during a fight. See Bigfoot vs Cormier and Bigfoot vs Hunt.
2. The Weidman KO was a long left hook which snapped his chin across his face, that's what is known as 'the button' it's that type of snap in the neck that you want when punching someone in the face, it was perfect. I wouldn't question his chin because of it, the exact way that happened was perfect.
3. The knockdown in the second fight was from a punch behind the ear, this has nothing to do with CHIN, this jars your equilibrium for about fifteen seconds roughly and depends how the follow up shots go, you can survive this, in most cases its the follow up shots that finish you or your head hitting the canvas that really KO's you from shots like this.
 
Originally posted by: Spud
Date: December 16, 2014 at 01:58 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/can-anderson-still-take-a-punch.64866/

Baron Anthès said:
I'm sure that Weidman can KO anyone with a good left hook. What I'm saying is, the way that shot landed, it didn't look like a definitive KO shot.
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Not only did it land on his chin, but Anderson was moving into it & had an awful base.
As for the second fight, he got caught behind the ear. s--- happens.
At 38 (or 39?) his ability to take a punch probably isn't what it once was, but there's no reason to think he's completely lost his ability to take a shot.
 
Originally posted by: smartigan
Date: December 16, 2014 at 02:00 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/can-anderson-still-take-a-punch.64866/

Jak said:
I think Silva rolls through Diaz with ease. I like Nick Diaz, one of my favourite fighters, but after watching Bobby Green and Nate Diaz's recent fights, i don't expect anything different from his fight.
I hope i'm wrong, but if those are the guys he's training with, how hard are they really training?
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In fairness both of them were bitching way before and up to their fights, talking about retirement n s---
Nick seems like he's in a good place for this. He knows this is the biggest fight of his life
 
Originally posted by: Gnarcore
Date: December 16, 2014 at 02:01 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/can-anderson-still-take-a-punch.64866/

Jak said:
I think Silva rolls through Diaz with ease. I like Nick Diaz, one of my favourite fighters, but after watching Bobby Green and Nate Diaz's recent fights, i don't expect anything different from his fight.
I hope i'm wrong, but if those are the guys he's training with, how hard are they really training?
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Agreed. This fight is going to be ugly...
 
Originally posted by: kungfu_ghetto
Date: December 16, 2014 at 02:12 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/can-anderson-still-take-a-punch.64866/

Baron Anthès said:
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ha! i was waiting for that gif to pop up
 
Originally posted by: Spud
Date: December 16, 2014 at 02:15 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/can-anderson-still-take-a-punch.64866/

Baron Anthès said:
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All this gif proves is that you shouldn't make a judgement on someones chin or power based on just 1 fight.
 
Originally posted by: Baron Anthès
Date: December 16, 2014 at 02:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/can-anderson-still-take-a-punch.64866/

Spud said:
All this gif proves is that you shouldn't make a judgement on someones chin or power based on just 1 fight.
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I don't think this gif proves that. I think it proves Nick Diaz can one shot KO guys that are hard to KO.
 
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