Can rashad make middle weight?
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many fighters jump weight classes for different reasons whether it be going up or going down, most of the time it is because they want a belt and they cant beat the champion.i know he would be an underdog against silva, but who does he have a better shot at beating silva or machida? i think silva
bjj_rage said:
and why would he do that?
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HeavyHand31 said:
many fighters jump weight classes for different reasons whether it be going up or going down, most of the time it is because they want a belt and they cant beat the champion.i know he would be an underdog against silva, but who does he have a better shot at beating silva or machida? i think silva
bjj_rage said:
and why would he do that?
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jeopardy style. I like it
bjj_rage said:
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because he is a very small LHW. As soon as I saw the weigh ins for UFC 98 i knew Rashad was in trouble. Before that I thought the fight would go to the later rounds. After seeing the weigh ins, i was willing to bet anything that Rashad would get KTFO within the first 3. He is 5'10". The fight was a big mismatch between a 185er and the worlds best 205er. My guess is that if and when he looses to Rampage, the drop will follow. Either way i think the drop to 185 is inevitable.
HeavyHand31 said:
i know rashad is going to be fighting rampage, but do you think he can make middle weight? what are your thoughts on rashad cutting down to 185? is it possible, and would he find success?
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He used to wrestle at 174 , so cutting to 185 wont be so hard for him. Look at him , he is a small LHW. He is a very good fighter but i would like to see him move to 185 and try his luck there.
kcrazy said:
bjj_rage said:
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Cause I can see him possibly beating Anderson Sivla, his takedowns plus speed would make him a more dangerous wrestler then Henderson's roman greco, which works out of the clinch.
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Unfortunately I question whether he would use his wrestling. I had a feeling that he was going to try to stand and trade with Machida and I thought he may be in trouble. Despite his recent success standing and throwing, I still think his bread and butter is his wrestling. However, if the last 3 fights are any indication, I question whether he still thinks that wrestling is his bread and butter...
mmafanatic said:
So, he lost to Machida and now he should move down in weight???
Rashad Evans is still a slam dunk top 3 or 4 LHW. No way he needs to move down.
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You are misunderstanding. He shouldnt move down because he lost. He should move down because he was outsized big time. Most Lightheavy weights have him out sized big time. He is 5'10" for crying out loud. Machida towered above him at 6'1" and bulkier! Did Kampmann have a need to move down having only lost once at MW and to Marquardt? no. but he made the right move because he was a very small MW. Likewise Rashad is a very small LHW and his move down is all but inevitable.
If he wants to be number #1 he should. I think there are alot of people in LHW that can beat Rashad (alot meaning 2-3). It would be a wise move on his part doing that if he wants to be number 1. He has all the skills to beat anyone in 185 even A. SIlva. He should bust a Wanderlie IMO
He COULD cut, I'm sure, but he would get owned all day by Anderson. He could probably maike it to number one contender status pretty quick too. But that would be all. AS would devour him, like a T Rex eating a baby goat. Oh yeah, Jurassic Park style. No need for the goat to be chained though.
Straight_Cash said:
kcrazy said:
bjj_rage said:
and why would he do that?
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Cause I can see him possibly beating Anderson Sivla, his takedowns plus speed would make him a more dangerous wrestler then Henderson's roman greco, which works out of the clinch.
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Unfortunately I question whether he would use his wrestling. I had a feeling that he was going to try to stand and trade with Machida and I thought he may be in trouble. Despite his recent success standing and throwing, I still think his bread and butter is his wrestling. However, if the last 3 fights are any indication, I question whether he still thinks that wrestling is his bread and butter...
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Straight_Cash, Evans trains out with Jackson and executes game plans. If wrestling was part of his game plan, I'm pretty sure he'd do it. But let's look at his last three fights:
Liddell has legendary takedown defense. His career has revolved around forcing wrestlers and grapplers with inferior hands trade with him. If Randy struggles to put Liddell on his back and can't keep him there, an undersized Rashad can't.
Griffin did a great job of punishing Rashad's legs and keeping his range. You need to set up a shot, and until Rashad caught the kick, he couldn't get close enough to Griffin to do it.
Machida has, statistically, the second-best takedown defense in MMA. Similarly to the Griffin fight, Rashad never got close to Machida, so he didn't have an opportunity to set up a shot. And from the clinch, Machida is just too strong.
Rashad has had no choice but to rely on his hands for his last three fights. It's probably also worth mentioning that if he did put Chuck on his back and lay on him for 3 rounds, he probably wouldn't have gotten a title shot, which also earned him the belt and $200,000 for losing his first title defense.
LouEvil said:
You guys act like he would be a huge MW and would overwhelm the competition there......hate to break it to you, but A. Silva is pretty much the same size as Machida, hes actually taller. Silva would DESTROY Evans just like Lyoto did.
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I'm not actually sure about that. Rashad, Silva, and Machida are counterers. However, Silva really seems to open himself up to damage when he goes on the attack, whereas Machida is more careful. Silva can out-point Rashad like Griffin did, but I think that he would start pushing forward and be susceptible to Rashad's quick hands and power. Silva doesn't hit with Machida's power, so I don't see him dropping Rashad without getting close and clinching.