Cesar Gracie: "Diaz probably will face Koscheck"

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Grimreapers
Date: October 28, 2012 at 01:10 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cesar-gracie-diaz-probably-will-face-koscheck.49021/

According the Cesar Gracie, when Nick Diaz returns from suspension he will likely face Koscheck because that's the match they gonna go after. He also thinks GSP will mop the floor with Condit.
I feel thats a bad matchup for Diaz Koscheck has solid wrestling.
http://fiveknuckles.com/mma-news/Cesar-Gracie-Nick-Diaz-probably-will-face-Josh-Koscheck-in-his-return.html

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: smfowns4
Date: October 28, 2012 at 01:14 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cesar-gracie-diaz-probably-will-face-koscheck.49021/

Grimreapers said:
According the Cesar Gracie, when Nick Diaz returns from suspension he will likely face Koscheck because that's the match they gonna go after. He also thinks GSP will mop the floor with Condit.
I feel thats a bad matchup for Diaz Koscheck has solid wrestling.
http://fiveknuckles.com/mma-news/Cesar-Gracie-Nick-Diaz-probably-will-face-Josh-Koscheck-in-his-return.html
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We will see. There's a couple factors that I feel you may be missing. Koscheck doesn't seem to use his wrestling as much anymore, and Diaz does a fantastic job by getting fighters to fight out of their gameplan.
I could see Koscheck taking Diaz down and controlling him. However, I could see Diaz battering Koscheck in the stand-up as well.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: derek666
Date: October 28, 2012 at 04:11 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cesar-gracie-diaz-probably-will-face-koscheck.49021/

If Koscheck gets his heavy hands on Diaz' chin, could be a short night for ol nicky.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: taylor22
Date: October 28, 2012 at 04:39 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cesar-gracie-diaz-probably-will-face-koscheck.49021/

derek666 said:
If Koscheck gets his heavy hands on Diaz' chin, could be a short night for ol nicky.
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Who has Koscheck knocked out recently besides Hughes who's chin is shot? Koscheck's best bet is to grind of the decision but I think Diaz avoids the take down and lights up Kos on the feet for a decision.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: derek666
Date: October 28, 2012 at 07:03 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cesar-gracie-diaz-probably-will-face-koscheck.49021/

taylor22 said:
derek666 said:
If Koscheck gets his heavy hands on Diaz' chin, could be a short night for ol nicky.
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Who has Koscheck knocked out recently besides Hughes who's chin is shot? Koscheck's best bet is to grind of the decision but I think Diaz avoids the take down and lights up Kos on the feet for a decision.
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Diaz gets dropped, it happens alot in his fights when anyone tags him!

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Spud
Date: October 28, 2012 at 07:08 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cesar-gracie-diaz-probably-will-face-koscheck.49021/

derek666 said:
taylor22 said:
derek666 said:
If Koscheck gets his heavy hands on Diaz' chin, could be a short night for ol nicky.
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Who has Koscheck knocked out recently besides Hughes who's chin is shot? Koscheck's best bet is to grind of the decision but I think Diaz avoids the take down and lights up Kos on the feet for a decision.
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Diaz gets dropped, it happens alot in his fights when anyone tags him!
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Nick Diaz is known for having a great chin. Paul Daley was the last guy I remember dropping Diaz, and he's a much more technical and powerful striker than Koscheck. And Kos has over-rated power anyway.
If this fight stays standing, Diaz wins it easily. Koscheck hasn't been the same since GSP destroyed his eye, a few jabs to it & he'll be mentally broken (and it'll probably swell up again). Plus Diaz is simply a much better striker than Kos.
Having said that, Kos has one of the best power doubles in MMA and great top control. If the fight goes to the ground, it would be a great fight between Koschecks wrestling and Diazs offensive guard.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Reacher
Date: October 28, 2012 at 07:11 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cesar-gracie-diaz-probably-will-face-koscheck.49021/

I think Diaz lights Kos up really bad in the standup.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: PANICman
Date: October 28, 2012 at 09:26 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cesar-gracie-diaz-probably-will-face-koscheck.49021/

derek666 said:
taylor22 said:
derek666 said:
If Koscheck gets his heavy hands on Diaz' chin, could be a short night for ol nicky.
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Who has Koscheck knocked out recently besides Hughes who's chin is shot? Koscheck's best bet is to grind of the decision but I think Diaz avoids the take down and lights up Kos on the feet for a decision.
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Diaz gets dropped, it happens alot in his fights when anyone tags him!
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Not so much as people like to think. Diaz has gotten tagged with some big shots and he recovers quickly and he doesn't get dropped that often. In his last 9 fights, going back to 2008, Nick's been dropped twice; Daley and Zaromskis. I can't think of any others. Both times, he recovered and won.
I gotta go with the Diaz has one heck of chin theory.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MMAFTM13
Date: October 28, 2012 at 09:41 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cesar-gracie-diaz-probably-will-face-koscheck.49021/

derek666 said:
If Koscheck gets his heavy hands on Diaz' chin, could be a short night for ol nicky.
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Come on man stop being silly..Koshcheck has 2 big shots in his hands and will be eating up real mma boxing from all angles from Nick(not to mention his solid chin and fast recovery from his worldclass conditioning) after getting occasioinally dropped in fights..
However,I agree with Grimreapers, and think that Koshcheck is a bad matchup for Nick..Personally I can see Josh Grapple f---ing Nick, without being submitted for the the whole 3-5 rounds into a frustrating decision(A bit like Koshcheck v Daley fight)..

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: PANICman
Date: October 28, 2012 at 09:53 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cesar-gracie-diaz-probably-will-face-koscheck.49021/

MMAFTM13 said:
derek666 said:
If Koscheck gets his heavy hands on Diaz' chin, could be a short night for ol nicky.
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Come on man stop being silly..Koshcheck has 2 big shots in his hands and will be eating up real mma boxing from all angles from Nick(not to mention his solid chin and fast recovery from his worldclass conditioning) after getting occasioinally dropped in fights..
However,I agree with Grimreapers, and think that Koshcheck is a bad matchup for Nick..Personally I can see Josh Grapple f**king Nick, without being submitted for the the whole 3-5 rounds into a frustrating decision(A bit like Koshcheck v Daley fight)..
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Well, Koscheck does have power. He's not very good at applying it but one or two big shots, a quick jump on a downed Diaz and yes, I can see it.
However, that's some seriously low probability stuff.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MMAFTM13
Date: October 28, 2012 at 10:01 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cesar-gracie-diaz-probably-will-face-koscheck.49021/

PANICman said:
MMAFTM13 said:
derek666 said:
If Koscheck gets his heavy hands on Diaz' chin, could be a short night for ol nicky.
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Come on man stop being silly..Koshcheck has 2 big shots in his hands and will be eating up real mma boxing from all angles from Nick(not to mention his solid chin and fast recovery from his worldclass conditioning) after getting occasioinally dropped in fights..
However,I agree with Grimreapers, and think that Koshcheck is a bad matchup for Nick..Personally I can see Josh Grapple f**king Nick, without being submitted for the the whole 3-5 rounds into a frustrating decision(A bit like Koshcheck v Daley fight)..
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Well, Koscheck does have power. He's not very good at applying it but one or two big shots, a quick jump on a downed Diaz and yes, I can see it.
However, that's some seriously low probability stuff.
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He does have power granted.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ChaosGod
Date: October 28, 2012 at 11:54 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cesar-gracie-diaz-probably-will-face-koscheck.49021/

Diaz comes in with his hands down stalking his opponent in every fight showing no respect for their standup. Kos has serious power in his hands is Diaz gets in his famous exchanges he could be put to sleep with a punch from Kos. The same could be said about Diaz touching Kos's eye he seems to freeze up every time it is hit

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: gongabong
Date: October 28, 2012 at 12:17 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cesar-gracie-diaz-probably-will-face-koscheck.49021/

Hard fight to pick.Nick will push the pace an be coming forward like always. Kos will need to find his take downs and maintain position inside Nicks highly offensive guard .Lots of pressure for Kos to follow a flawless gameplan while Nicks field of area that he can use for the win is much broader

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: KZUFCchamp2013
Date: October 28, 2012 at 12:36 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cesar-gracie-diaz-probably-will-face-koscheck.49021/

As a big Diaz fan and Kos hater I don't like this matchup. Kos could easily take Diaz down and get a dec

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Gnarcore
Date: October 28, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cesar-gracie-diaz-probably-will-face-koscheck.49021/

Koscheck vs Paul Daley 2.0 but at least Nick has a solid bottom game and will be far harder to smother.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: KillswitchKen
Date: October 28, 2012 at 02:30 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cesar-gracie-diaz-probably-will-face-koscheck.49021/

I'd love to see this fight. Hopefully Diaz can stay on the outside and pick Kos apart.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: GOODNIGHTIRENE
Date: October 28, 2012 at 02:43 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cesar-gracie-diaz-probably-will-face-koscheck.49021/

Diaz will run through him with ease. Koscheck will get boxed up and tapped out.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MMAFTM13
Date: October 28, 2012 at 02:52 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cesar-gracie-diaz-probably-will-face-koscheck.49021/

GOODNIGHTIRENE said:
Diaz will run through him with ease. Koscheck will get boxed up and tapped out.
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Oh man I certainly hope so as a Diaz fan and a Koshcheck hater,but when has Josh ever been submitted off anyone?..It'll be tough even for Nick to submit him IMO..

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ChaosGod
Date: October 28, 2012 at 03:55 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cesar-gracie-diaz-probably-will-face-koscheck.49021/

MMAFTM13 said:
GOODNIGHTIRENE said:
Diaz will run through him with ease. Koscheck will get boxed up and tapped out.
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Oh man I certainly hope so as a Diaz fan and a Koshcheck hater,but when has Josh ever been submitted off anyone?..It'll be tough even for Nick to submit him IMO..
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Kos has one sub loss in his career and that was against Drew Fickett I believe Technical Submission (rear-naked choke) which by technical I am thinking he was choked out

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MMAddict710
Date: October 28, 2012 at 04:19 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/cesar-gracie-diaz-probably-will-face-koscheck.49021/

This should be an interesting fight and if Diaz can keep it on the feet he should take this easily. If Koscheck is able to grapplef*ck him to a decision then it will be obvious that Diaz wouldn't have much of a chance against GSP so this is a good matchup. There should be a lot of fun trash talking as well.