Champ most likely to have their belt 4 years from now?
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ToneyStackz said:
I believe the talent at bantamweight gap is the the second widest (second to Anderson) in the ufc
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By saying this, do you mean that Cruz is better than the rest of his division by more than any other champ besides Silva?
If that's what you mean, you've got to be kidding. Cruz has barely won several times. Aldo has dominated every single opponent he's faced as has GSP. In fact, even Jon Jones has been far more dominant.
It's a tie between Jon Jones and Jose Aldo. They are both really young and have many years of dominance ahead of them. Right now, I would say Aldo has a wider gap between the rest of the division, but nobody has seen much of Jon Jones against top-notch competition, although he did dismantle Shogun. I can't decide.
Cruz is dominant, but someone will figure a gameplan on how to hit him, see Machida
Frankie Edgar lost his last fight IMO, so no
GSP and Anderson will either be retired or past their prime, definitely lowering their chances.
Cain is good, but so is JDS and I'm not sure he will have his belt a few months from now.
Just when I thought Anderson Nut huggers couldn't get any dumber... :roll:
You guys realize he is gonna be 40 years old by that time?!
inb4zomgwhatabouthenderson!
He is no Dan Henderson/Rand Couture. His style is different, he is built differently and he is not on TRT...
Plus do you really think that in 4 years there still wouldn't be a top wrestler (other than Sonnen) in the MW division? Once that happens its all over for anderson. He hasn't fought wrestlers until sonnen and that fight was barely competitive. Guys like Jones, Askren, Phil Davis, Daniel Cormier weren't even training MMA 4 years ago, Anderson is just lucky that no elite wrestlers landed in the MW division in that last few years.
i think jones has the potential to be the no debatin best ever (which is a VERY different thing from currently being anywhere near the ballpark of course) based off his ridiculous athleticism (strikes me as a Calvin Johnson or middle class man's LeBron James type athlete, just a body that would've gone pro at whichever sport the brain picked). He'd be the most exciting to see do it and he has as good a chance as anyone but maybe Aldo so I'll go with him.
Cain Velasquez - JDS, Overeem and maybe Barnett could take it.
Jon Jones - Too early to say.
Anderson Silva - Will be retired.
Georges St-Pierre - We'll see how he does against Condit first.
Frankie Edgar - No f*cking way. If he's still Lightweight Champion four years from now, I'll eat the biggest plate of crow ever.
José Aldo - He'll have moved up to 155 if he keeps on dominating at 145.
Dominick Cruz - Very possible. I think Miguel Torres is the guy to beat Cruz, so if that fight happens we'll see.
It all depends on how Jones does against Rampage, and if he is serious about an inevitable move to Heavyweight. If not, it's between him and Cruz.
None. Anderson and GSP will be done. Aldo will be at LW. HW and LHW are too volatile and easily determined by one punch. Four years is a super long time for MMA.
The only champ I'd put money on on being still champ in 4 years is Cyborg. But I don't think SF is still in biz in 4 years...
Frankie is a small guy in a super tough weightclass. I see him losing to both Maynard or Melendez, and eventually dropping to 145. I think its entirely possibly that Aldo loses to Edgar. Florian will be a tough test for him as well, but I can't picture anyone giving Jon Jones problems right now. But then again, I said that about Machida too. This sport is so unpredictable, they will probably all be champions of different weight classes in four years :lol:
gzfzvz said:
Just when I thought Anderson Nut huggers couldn't get any dumber... :roll:
You guys realize he is gonna be 40 years old by that time?!
inb4zomgwhatabouthenderson!
He is no Dan Henderson/Rand Couture. His style is different, he is built differently and he is not on TRT...
Plus do you really think that in 4 years there still wouldn't be a top wrestler (other than Sonnen) in the MW division? Once that happens its all over for anderson. He hasn't fought wrestlers until sonnen and that fight was barely competitive. Guys like Jones, Askren, Phil Davis, Daniel Cormier weren't even training MMA 4 years ago, Anderson is just lucky that no elite wrestlers landed in the MW division in that last few years.
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i don't really get your thinking.........i mean there are only 5 votes for AS..........and most people are saying he is going to retire
also look at it this way.............4 years with a champ defending their belt 2x a year equals 8 fights. Silva only has 5 fights left on his contract and he will more than likely retire as the undefeated MW champ.
I don't want to hijack the thread with another topic but I 100% agree that Silva will be retired 4 years from now. He's already started talking about it like 2 years ago. The reason Couture fought so late is because he started so late (what was he 32/33 when he started pro MMA?). I can't explain Hendo but that's only 1 guy who is still beating father time and history has shown Brazilians generally start falling off faster (Nogs/Wanderlei). Not saying that is going to happen with Anderson too, he could potentially fight longer but I just don't see him wanting to do it and it would really suck to see him not leave on top and go on a 3-4 fight losing streak and everyone question how good he was before (aka Fedor).
Reckin007 said:
I don't want to hijack the thread with another topic but I 100% agree that Silva will be retired 4 years from now. He's already started talking about it like 2 years ago. The reason Couture fought so late is because he started so late (what was he 32/33 when he started pro MMA?). I can't explain Hendo but that's only 1 guy who is still beating father time and
history has shown Brazilians generally start falling off faster (Nogs/Wanderlei)
. Not saying that is going to happen with Anderson too, he could potentially fight longer but I just don't see him wanting to do it and it would really suck to see him not leave on top and go on a 3-4 fight losing streak and everyone question how good he was before (aka Fedor).
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lol most ridiculous thing i have ever heard.........i guess all black people like watermelon and malt liquor too? Or all Asians are good at math and know kung fu?
mabrown45 said:
GSP..........not gonna move up and is just too good.
Silva will be retired
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W/ all due respect to both fighters, GSP will lose between this next fight w/ Condit or facing the winner of Penn/Diaz if he gets past Carlos.. IMO Condit will be the next WW champ.. He has the desire to win and most importantly he aims to "finish fights"..
AS will fight as champion 1 more time and that will be against Chael Sonnen once he gnp's Stann into submission. Sonnen technically won the 1st fight had it not been for a lucky arm triangle that Silva pulled from deep w/ in his a$$ somehow..
Cain will be the only current champ to reign for yrs to come until he is pitted against his AKA teammate Cormier. Not sure who takes that "W" , its a toss up skill wise
mabrown45 said:
Reckin007 said:
I don't want to hijack the thread with another topic but I 100% agree that Silva will be retired 4 years from now. He's already started talking about it like 2 years ago. The reason Couture fought so late is because he started so late (what was he 32/33 when he started pro MMA?). I can't explain Hendo but that's only 1 guy who is still beating father time and
history has shown Brazilians generally start falling off faster (Nogs/Wanderlei)
. Not saying that is going to happen with Anderson too, he could potentially fight longer but I just don't see him wanting to do it and it would really suck to see him not leave on top and go on a 3-4 fight losing streak and everyone question how good he was before (aka Fedor).
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lol most ridiculous thing i have ever heard.........i guess all black people like watermelon and malt liquor too? Or all Asians are good at math and know kung fu?
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Ha ha ha.. Right!! Like all white people like rock/heavy metal and can't jump for sh!t. And all mexicans carry switch blades and ride 8 deep in a compact car..
These are only stereotypes and they most certainly don't apply to 100% of these different ethnic groups..
Its just ignorance to believe so if u ask me. Cut and Dry...
durtieb0xer said:
mabrown45 said:
GSP..........not gonna move up and is just too good.
Silva will be retired
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W/ all due respect to both fighters, GSP will lose between this next fight w/ Condit or facing the winner of Penn/Diaz if he gets past Carlos.. IMO Condit will be the next WW champ.. He has the desire to win and most importantly he aims to "finish fights"..
AS will fight as champion 1 more time and that will be against
Chael Sonnen once he gnp's Stann into submission
. Sonnen technically won the 1st fight had it not been for a lucky arm triangle that Silva pulled from deep w/ in his a$$ somehow..
Cain will be the only current champ to reign for yrs to come until he is pitted against his AKA teammate Cormier. Not sure who takes that "W" , its a toss up skill wise
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have you seen Sonnen fight?........i mean the only finish that comes in a sonnen fight is when someone triangles sonnen.
a lucky triangle that silva had been working on the entire fight..........Cain will not get 8 title defences
residency said:
Cain Velasquez - JDS, Overeem and maybe Barnett could take it.
Jon Jones - Too early to say.
Anderson Silva - Will be retired.
Georges St-Pierre - We'll see how he does against Condit first.
Frankie Edgar - No f*cking way. If he's still Lightweight Champion four years from now, I'll eat the biggest plate of crow ever.
José Aldo - He'll have moved up to 155 if he keeps on dominating at 145.
Dominick Cruz - Very possible. I think Miguel Torres is the guy to beat Cruz, so if that fight happens we'll see.
It all depends on how Jones does against Rampage, and if he is serious about an inevitable move to Heavyweight. If not, it's between him and Cruz.
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So Aldo dominated Hominick?
Where the F#*k was I when this happened? Could've sworn I saw Aldo pulling a lay-n-pray move in his last outting and I'm pretty sure he was on his back getting gnp'd by Mark in the 5rnd... Sorry but I completely missed the Aldo domination in that fight.. Guess I shouldn't have blinked.. Lol...
dear durtieb0xer,
-brazilians don't generally start falling off faster. You're comparing three warriors (nogs/wand) that fought Rocky Balboa style their entire career, walking into punches and punching their opponent harder to a guy that wasn't hit a single time in many of his ufc bouts (silva). Very dumb comment from you sir.
-Aldo dominated Hominick, beating him for four rounds. In the 5th he was tired, but he knew the fight was in the bag, and Hominick offered no danger on the top(and that's why he never bothered working to get out), otherwise he would make Aldo work to avoid a stoppage. Sometimes champions gotta do what they gotta do to remain champions, its called fighting smart (we never really know what happens before the fight, in this case we know Aldo had a foot infection 1 week before the fight, and was taking antibiotics till wednesday before the fight, and if he dominated like that without being 100%, we can only imagine he'll keep dominating for a while).
-Sonnen had his chance, fight day scenario had a cracked rib Silva against a steroid-boosted wrestler. If he didn't lose the fight, he won't lose anytime soon.
@ontopic: Jose Aldo followed by Dominick Cruz. But they may move up the weight class if they(and the fans) get bored, so i'm not sure if even them will have their belts in 4 years.