Originally posted by: Futastic Date: July 16, 2013 at 06:32 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/costa-philippou-wants-belfort-not-in-brazil-trt.56424/
http://esporte.uol.com.br/mma/ultim...rt-mas-cita-polemica-do-trt-nao-no-brasil.htm
Costa said he things it would be an interesting fight, however he is not willing to fight him in Brazil due to TRT issues.
Since Bisping will fight Munoz, only Okami or Jacaré makes more sense for Belfort since he didn't get his title shot IMO.
Originally posted by: PsychoIcon Date: July 16, 2013 at 06:49 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/costa-philippou-wants-belfort-not-in-brazil-trt.56424/
Originally posted by: callithowyouseeit Date: July 16, 2013 at 08:05 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/costa-philippou-wants-belfort-not-in-brazil-trt.56424/
Phillipou's a pretender, not a contender.
Unfortunately, Belfort's options are limited at this point. There's Costa and..... Cung.
Wandy vs Belfort II would be fun to see.... though Wandy doesn't deserve the fight.
Originally posted by: demeter Date: July 16, 2013 at 08:08 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/costa-philippou-wants-belfort-not-in-brazil-trt.56424/
callithowyouseeit said:
Phillipou's a pretender, not a contender.
Unfortunately, Belfort's options are limited at this point. There's Costa and..... Cung.
Wandy vs Belfort II would be fun to see.... though Wandy doesn't deserve the fight.
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The guy is on a 5 fight winning streak, whilst the Boetsch fight left a bad taste in my mouth I definitely think he deserves to be seen as a contender at this point.
Originally posted by: callithowyouseeit Date: July 16, 2013 at 08:16 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/costa-philippou-wants-belfort-not-in-brazil-trt.56424/
demeter said:
The guy is on a 5 fight winning streak, whilst the Boetsch fight left a bad taste in my mouth I definitely think he deserves to be seen as a contender at this point.
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I don't argue he's seen as a contender. But like you mentioned... he beat Boetsch (who was incredibly overrated) and nobody else of significance. Actually... Rockhold might be a good fight even though he's coming off a loss.
Originally posted by: FlipMMA Date: July 16, 2013 at 09:02 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/costa-philippou-wants-belfort-not-in-brazil-trt.56424/
callithowyouseeit said:
I don't argue he's seen as a contender. But like you mentioned... he beat Boetsch (who was incredibly overrated) and nobody else of significance. Actually... Rockhold might be a good fight even though he's coming off a loss.
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Same thing was said about Weidman and look how that turned out. I think Costa presents a lot of problems for some middleweight "contenders". He is definitely deserving of a fight with Vitor.
Originally posted by: Spud Date: July 16, 2013 at 09:07 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/costa-philippou-wants-belfort-not-in-brazil-trt.56424/
Originally posted by: Troop Date: July 16, 2013 at 10:49 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/costa-philippou-wants-belfort-not-in-brazil-trt.56424/
Costa should fight Le, Belfort should fight Mousasi. Only hiccups are if they have Le coach TUF (not sure who the opposing coach would be) and/or if Mousasi's injury keeps him out longer than expected.
Originally posted by: JonnyRico Date: July 16, 2013 at 10:49 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/costa-philippou-wants-belfort-not-in-brazil-trt.56424/
Originally posted by: callithowyouseeit Date: July 16, 2013 at 11:17 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/costa-philippou-wants-belfort-not-in-brazil-trt.56424/
FlipMMA said:
Same thing was said about Weidman and look how that turned out. I think Costa presents a lot of problems for some middleweight "contenders". He is definitely deserving of a fight with Vitor.
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I'd disagree there. Vitor's way above him. Someone like Rockhold is more comparable to his stature, even coming off a loss.
I don't think the Weidman comparison is accurate in this case. Phillipou has been beaten, while Weidman has not. He has one victory over a questionable contender. Weidman took the Maia fight on incredibly short notice, won, and then beat Munoz (in my opinion a much better fighter than Boetsch). Costa hasn't had the buzz like Weidman had. Even just a fight or two into his UFC career... fighters and coaches were talking about how incredible Chris was. You still don't hear anything like that about Costa.
It's rumored that Phillipou actually left Serra-Longo because of Weidman. While I haven't heard it 100% confirmed, Weidman did acknowledge in an interview with Helwani last month, that the he may have had a hand in Phillipou leaving. He might have known he wasn't going to get attention with a guy like Weidman in the same camp, fighting in the same division.
Originally posted by: KZUFCchamp2013 Date: July 16, 2013 at 11:24 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/costa-philippou-wants-belfort-not-in-brazil-trt.56424/
i love how when Sonnen, Mir, and Hendo look like absolute sh!t no one mentions trt but when Vitor looks great suddenly trt is this horrible evil thing and Vitor is a cheater
Originally posted by: callithowyouseeit Date: July 16, 2013 at 11:26 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/costa-philippou-wants-belfort-not-in-brazil-trt.56424/
KZUFCchamp2013 said:
i love how when Sonnen, Mir, and Hendo look like absolute sh!t no one mentions trt but when Vitor looks great suddenly trt is this horrible evil thing and Vitor is a cheater
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Sonnen caught a lot of flack for the TRT, especially after the first Silva fight. Mir and Hendo have been losing, so using them as an example of "performance enhancement" is sort of pointless.
Originally posted by: Spud Date: July 16, 2013 at 11:27 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/costa-philippou-wants-belfort-not-in-brazil-trt.56424/
KZUFCchamp2013 said:
i love how when Sonnen, Mir, and Hendo look like absolute sh!t no one mentions trt but when Vitor looks great suddenly trt is this horrible evil thing and Vitor is a cheater
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None of them had previously failed drugs tests for steroids (Sonnens failed test was a result of his TRT). Steroid use is known to lower natural testosterone production.
Originally posted by: KZUFCchamp2013 Date: July 16, 2013 at 11:31 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/costa-philippou-wants-belfort-not-in-brazil-trt.56424/
Spud said:
None of them had previously failed drugs tests for steroids (Sonnens failed test was a result of his TRT). Steroid use is known to lower natural testosterone production.
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True, completely forgot that Vitor had tested positive for steroids in the past
Originally posted by: KZUFCchamp2013 Date: July 16, 2013 at 11:32 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/costa-philippou-wants-belfort-not-in-brazil-trt.56424/
callithowyouseeit said:
Sonnen caught a lot of flack for the TRT, especially after the first Silva fight. Mir and Hendo have been losing, so using them as an example of "performance enhancement" is sort of pointless.
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Wasn't Dan on a 5 fight win streak when he went on trt?
Originally posted by: callithowyouseeit Date: July 16, 2013 at 11:32 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/costa-philippou-wants-belfort-not-in-brazil-trt.56424/
Spud said:
None of them had previously failed drugs tests for steroids (Sonnens failed test was a result of his TRT). Steroid use is known to lower natural testosterone production.
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Yup. The body is tricked into believing that sufficient levels of natural testosterone are being produced as a result of steroid use, so it decreases the amount produced. It takes a long time for the body to recover and start producing appropriate levels of T after extended steroid use.
Originally posted by: callithowyouseeit Date: July 16, 2013 at 11:33 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/costa-philippou-wants-belfort-not-in-brazil-trt.56424/
Originally posted by: Brick Date: July 16, 2013 at 11:48 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/costa-philippou-wants-belfort-not-in-brazil-trt.56424/
KZUFCchamp2013 said:
True, completely forgot that Vitor had tested positive for steroids in the past
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That's by far the whole reason people are jumping all over him. Me, anyway. A history of cheating with drugs, and now this TRT stuff, all just looks really shady.
Originally posted by: renjr84 Date: July 16, 2013 at 12:21 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/costa-philippou-wants-belfort-not-in-brazil-trt.56424/
Brick said:
That's by far the whole reason people are jumping all over him. Me, anyway. A history of cheating with drugs, and now this TRT stuff, all just looks really shady.
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A history huh? So being caught 1 time is a history, even when the Dr came out and said Belfort did not know he was injecting him with the steroids for his knee.
Thats besides the fact. So if you get caught stealing gum from a store at 18 but never do it again, do you still have a history? Or is a history when you have done something multiple times?
If I beat some one up when I am 17 and get in trouble for it if I do it again at 38, do I have a history of assault?
Originally posted by: FlipMMA Date: July 16, 2013 at 12:25 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/costa-philippou-wants-belfort-not-in-brazil-trt.56424/
renjr84 said:
A history huh? So being caught 1 time is a history, even when the Dr came out and said Belfort did not know he was injecting him with the steroids for his knee.
Thats besides the fact. So if you get caught stealing gum from a store at 18 but never do it again, do you still have a history? Or is a history when you have done something multiple times?
If I beat some one up when I am 17 and get in trouble for it if I do it again at 38, do I have a history of assault?
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"History" is pretty subjective in this context.
