Dana/Machida - I Call BS

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Originally posted by: Project86
Date: October 05, 2011 at 08:35 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/dana-machida-i-call-bs.42507/
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I dont buy dana's claim of fighters being unavailable lyoto last fought in april
that is 7 months to be searching for an opponenet
shogun fought in august and they give him henderson
why couldn't lyoto get henderson?
and give shogun - tito,bader,rogerio,franklin,etc.
there were plenty of options dana just gave other people the opponenets
both shogun,tito(3rd for tito) are getting a 2nd fight in 2011
but machida who is healthy and fought 7 months ago is'nt?
 
Originally posted by: JonnyRico
Date: October 05, 2011 at 08:37 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/dana-machida-i-call-bs.42507/
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Rua got the better matchup cause he is the bigger name. Any of those matches woulda have been a step down for Shogun.
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: October 05, 2011 at 08:49 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/dana-machida-i-call-bs.42507/
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Project86 said:
why couldn't lyoto get henderson?
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Because for fans of MMA Rua vs. Henderson is freakin' awesome.
How about we just leave that fight alone.
 
Originally posted by: smfowns4
Date: October 05, 2011 at 08:50 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/dana-machida-i-call-bs.42507/
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Jak said:
Project86 said:
why couldn't lyoto get henderson?
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Because for fans of MMA Rua vs. Henderson is freakin' awesome.
How about we just leave that fight alone.
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Not so fast. Now that I ponder it more, Henderson/Machida would have been an awesome fight and for some reason it's more intriguing.
 
Originally posted by: mabrown45
Date: October 05, 2011 at 09:10 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/dana-machida-i-call-bs.42507/
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why does lyoto warrant a fight with hendo?...........losing 2 straight then KOing Randy is nothing to be proud of. Hendo is the SF LHW champ who just beat fedor at HW........would be a waste of a fight for him to fight machida.
not saying machida couldn't do his normal run around the cage throwing a few combos every round or two and beat hendo but he doesn't deserve the fight.
 
Originally posted by: condrab
Date: October 05, 2011 at 09:15 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/dana-machida-i-call-bs.42507/
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The UFC almost always matches up winners vs winners an losers vs losers. The only big names comin off of a win are Franklin and Davis (both of who are injured), shogun (who has fought Machida twice) and jones and Evans (who are fighting each other. They gave shogun the Hendo fight instead of machida for 2 reasons. A. It sells better, two pride legends that never fought each other!!! B. Shogun is closer to a title shot that Machida. And the winner of shogun/Hendo will probably be next in line for the title.
 
Originally posted by: Be_Real
Date: October 05, 2011 at 09:23 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/dana-machida-i-call-bs.42507/
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Yeah it is BS. Injuries everything. Rich could of have fought machida but then all of a sudden he gets injured. Davis stated before he got match with rashad that he was going to take time off. Then when he got match up with rashad, he got injured.
MACHIDA CHAMP IN 2012.
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: October 05, 2011 at 09:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/dana-machida-i-call-bs.42507/
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condrab said:
B. Shogun is closer to a title shot that Machida.
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I disagree with that.
If Machida fought someone like Davis or Evans, he would be as close to a title shot with a win. Both are one good performance away.
This threads highlights that Henderson, a non UFC fighter, is all there is for Machida to fight after they tried to make Davis and Evans fights. Thus highlighting there's not a lot of present fights for Machida. 3 guys. that's about it.
However... Mousasi vs. Machida in Japan. That would be nice.
 
Originally posted by: thabestevah
Date: October 05, 2011 at 10:00 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/dana-machida-i-call-bs.42507/
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Jak said:
condrab said:
B. Shogun is closer to a title shot that Machida.
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I disagree with that.
If Machida fought someone like Davis or Evans, he would be as close to a title shot with a win. Both are one good performance away.
This threads highlights that Henderson, a non UFC fighter, is all there is for Machida to fight after they tried to make Davis and Evans fights. Thus highlighting there's not a lot of present fights for Machida. 3 guys. that's about it.
However...
Mousasi vs. Machida in Japan. That would be nice.
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Ummm, Yes! Give me that! I may take Mousasi in that fight too.
 
Originally posted by: Reckin007
Date: October 05, 2011 at 10:03 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/dana-machida-i-call-bs.42507/
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lol why in God's name would you put Machida against Hendo over Shogun/Hendo? Dude you're making no f---ing sense. How does Shogun go from world champion, to beating a former world champion....to Tito, Lil Nog, or Bader? That is laughable at best (and Tito is actually fighting Lil Nog already and last I checked Franklin is injured for 2-3 months). What has Lyoto done other than beat a 47 year old legend? There are no other options for Lyoto other than Davis...unless he wants to take on one of those other non-contenders which makes absolutely no sense for his career. He's not a gatekeeper, he's been the champion, why should he beat a gatekeeper (same with Shogun)? Lyoto could have fought a huge fight already and turned it down when they offered him Evans. LHW is weak and Davis is the only fight that's going to get him somewhere at this point. It's not punishment, it's his own damn fault for not taking a fight they already offered him.
 
Originally posted by: Fight Magnet
Date: October 05, 2011 at 11:30 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/dana-machida-i-call-bs.42507/
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I'll admit I'm skeptical about D.W.s explanation myself. Machida had 3 weeks notice, yet Rampage had 4 weeks, couldn't fight on 128, then is on 130, like 2 months later. I know there's a lot of other, different variables going on between the 2 scenarios, but it does sound somewhat fishy.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/2/7/1981484/rampage-jackson-explains-decision-to-turn-down-ufc-128-title-bout
Rampage: "I don't care who the opponent is. I'm not taking a fight on four weeks' notice. It's not enough time to get ready for a five-round fight. Dana knows that. And 'Shogun,' he's a fighter, and he should know that. He shouldn't even go and say [expletive] like that with him being a fighter. He saw me at the fight this weekend. Everybody saw how big I am."
"I'm just doing maintenance training right now. I just started back. I fought right before the holidays, and I went on vacation to see my family and took my kids to see their family in Japan. I've been living my life, so I gained a lot of weight. I'm a natural fighter. I don't do any drugs, and I don't know any high-performance drugs, so I have a natural body. My body gains weight when I don't train and I don't eat like I'm in camp."
"I'm 250 pounds, and I would have to lose 45 pounds in, what, three or four weeks? The first time I fought 'Shogun,' I was injured going into that fight, and it's haunted me all the way up to now. I always believed the second time I fight 'Shogun' that I'm going to be close to 100 percent as possible... I don't want to have a rushed camp and have a last-minute fight to fight someone who's already beaten me. Even if they offered me Forrest (Griffin) or Rashad (Evans) in four weeks, I can't take that fight because I'm too big."
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Originally posted by: mabrown45
Date: October 06, 2011 at 10:37 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/dana-machida-i-call-bs.42507/
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Be_Real said:
MACHIDA CHAMP IN 2012.
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oh i get it.......Strikeforce
 
Originally posted by: SilvaP4PKing
Date: October 06, 2011 at 11:51 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/dana-machida-i-call-bs.42507/
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mabrown45 said:
Be_Real said:
MACHIDA CHAMP IN 2012.
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oh i get it.......Strikeforce
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from the #1 Machida hater
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I'm on the Lyoto bandwagon for sure, for me he has the highest chances of dethroning Bones atm. But if DW keeps delaying his fights and he doesn't get a shot soon, Bones might evolve too much for our karate kid to have a chance....
 
Originally posted by: mabrown45
Date: October 06, 2011 at 11:53 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/dana-machida-i-call-bs.42507/
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SilvaP4PKing said:
mabrown45 said:
Be_Real said:
MACHIDA CHAMP IN 2012.
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oh i get it.......Strikeforce
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from the #1 Machida hate
r
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I'm on the Lyoto bandwagon for sure, for me he has the highest chances of dethroning Bones atm. But if DW keeps delaying his fights and he doesn't get a shot soon, Bones might evolve too much for our karate kid to have a chance....
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lol so true..........but i'm not completely nuts........he is a legit threat to just about any LHW.
 
Originally posted by: Be_Real
Date: October 06, 2011 at 11:55 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/dana-machida-i-call-bs.42507/
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SilvaP4PKing said:
mabrown45 said:
Be_Real said:
MACHIDA CHAMP IN 2012.
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oh i get it.......Strikeforce
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from the #1 Machida hater
...
I'm on the Lyoto bandwagon for sure, for me he has the highest chances of dethroning Bones atm. But if DW keeps delaying his fights and he doesn't get a shot soon, Bones might evolve too much for our karate kid to have a chance....
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+10000
Now that I think about it. I know how much it sucks to see him fight only 1 time this year. It would be amazing for him to fight on the Japan card though.
 
Originally posted by: SilvaP4PKing
Date: October 06, 2011 at 12:29 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/dana-machida-i-call-bs.42507/
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@danawhite: Alright Toronto!!! Dec 10th UFC 140 tix go on sale next weekend and ur main event is Bones Jones vs Machida!!!
f---, here we goooo !!!!!!!!!!!!!! KARATE KID vs DHALSIM !!!!!!!!!!
 
Originally posted by: Brick
Date: October 06, 2011 at 01:03 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/dana-machida-i-call-bs.42507/
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condrab said:
Shogun is closer to a title shot that Machida.
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So much for that theory.
 
Originally posted by: derek666
Date: October 06, 2011 at 03:02 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/dana-machida-i-call-bs.42507/
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Thats how you get a title fight in the UFC? Lose twice then KO the old man? WTF
 
Originally posted by: Reckin007
Date: October 06, 2011 at 03:03 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/dana-machida-i-call-bs.42507/
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derek666 said:
Thats how you get a title fight in the UFC? Lose twice then KO the old man? WTF
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?? there's NO ONE else....Evans is hurt. Who the f--- else do you want?
 
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