Dana White: I was going to cut Tito, 1 last chance
- Thread starter Nastycrow
- Start date
smfowns4 said:
Dethroner said:
i ate an apple, it was alright.
Click to expand...
JonnyRico said:
Dont we know this already? haha
Click to expand...
Sorry for attempting to make it official. I personally, thought that since Ortiz is a legend, Dana wouldn't cut him.
Click to expand...
Dude theres something about tito that everyone seems to hate and i dont know how it happened i remember when tito was the biggest fish in the pond but lately he's been looking awful in the ring, he already lost to Hammill i dont see any future for tito Ortiz whether he wins or loses hes at the point where he should retire before making a fool out of himself in the octagon again, and besides i hate hearing tito in a press conference he answers a simple question like if he was giving a speech
Dethroner said:
Dude theres something about tito that everyone seems to hate and i dont know how it happened i remember when tito was the biggest fish in the pond but lately he's been looking awful in the ring, he already lost to Hammill i dont see any future for tito Ortiz whether he wins or loses hes at the point where he should retire before making a fool out of himself in the octagon again, and besides i hate hearing tito in a press conference he answers a simple question like if he was giving a speech
Click to expand...
I disagree. If you look at Tito's record, he has lost his last 4 of 5, and the 5th fight was a draw. That seems bad, but he has been surprisingly competitive. The Hamil loss was the only really bad one in my opinion, and that still went to a decision. But other than that he lost a split decision to Forrest (in a fight I would argue Tito won). Forrest is still ranked in the top 10 on most websites. He lost a decision to Machida, but nearly submitted him in the last round. From what I recall Machida was saved by the bell. Machida is ranked in the top 5 on most sites still. He would have won the Rashad Evans fight but lost a point for grabbing the fence and it went to a draw. Rashad is fighting for the title.
A 5 fight loss/draw streak seems terrible, but I still think Tito has something left in him. I'm glad they gave him another shot.
Galgorian said:
Dethroner said:
Dude theres something about tito that everyone seems to hate and i dont know how it happened i remember when tito was the biggest fish in the pond but lately he's been looking awful in the ring, he already lost to Hammill i dont see any future for tito Ortiz whether he wins or loses hes at the point where he should retire before making a fool out of himself in the octagon again, and besides i hate hearing tito in a press conference he answers a simple question like if he was giving a speech
Click to expand...
I disagree. If you look at Tito's record, he has lost his last 4 of 5, and the 5th fight was a draw. That seems bad, but he has been surprisingly competitive. The Hamil loss was the only really bad one in my opinion, and that still went to a decision. But other than that he lost a split decision to Forrest (in a fight I would argue Tito won). Forrest is still ranked in the top 10 on most websites. He lost a decision to Machida, but nearly submitted him in the last round. From what I recall Machida was saved by the bell. Machida is ranked in the top 5 on most sites still. He would have won the Rashad Evans fight but lost a point for grabbing the fence and it went to a draw. Rashad is fighting for the title.
A 5 fight loss/draw streak seems terrible, but I still think Tito has something left in him. I'm glad they gave him another shot.
Click to expand...
so you see tito beating Shogun,Rampage,Bader,Jon jones or Thiago SIlva?
smfowns4 said:
I don't think he said that ^.
Click to expand...
My point is Tito is Done fighting he had his days and now its over and thats final just like Chuck except id still pay 50 bucks to see chuck in a PPV fight however tito id just watch it the next day online
Dethroner said:
smfowns4 said:
I don't think he said that ^.
Click to expand...
My point is Tito is Done fighting he had his days and now its over and thats final just like Chuck except id still pay 50 bucks to see him in a PPV fight however tito id just watch it the next day online
Click to expand...
He has looked competitive.
smfowns4 said:
Dethroner said:
smfowns4 said:
I don't think he said that ^.
Click to expand...
My point is Tito is Done fighting he had his days and now its over and thats final just like Chuck except id still pay 50 bucks to see him in a PPV fight however tito id just watch it the next day online
Click to expand...
He has looked competitive.
Click to expand...
In what sense? He got
out-wrestled
by a guy who he teached
Dethroner said:
smfowns4 said:
Uh. His past fights he has been very competitive in? Even against Hamill, he won the first.
Click to expand...
Well do you see a future for him in the UFC right now? Hell if he gets past lil nog it would be a damn Miracle
Click to expand...
I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying he has some left.
smfowns4 said:
Dethroner said:
smfowns4 said:
Uh. His past fights he has been very competitive in? Even against Hamill, he won the first.
Click to expand...
Well do you see a future for him in the UFC right now? Hell if he gets past lil nog it would be a damn Miracle
Click to expand...
I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying he has some left.
Click to expand...
Dude if your in an organization to be anything else but the champion then you're just a damn loser especially tito after being the most dominant ufc lhw fighter i highly doubt that his goal is anything else but being champ one day...again
Galgorian said:
Dethroner said:
Dude theres something about tito that everyone seems to hate and i dont know how it happened i remember when tito was the biggest fish in the pond but lately he's been looking awful in the ring, he already lost to Hammill i dont see any future for tito Ortiz whether he wins or loses hes at the point where he should retire before making a fool out of himself in the octagon again, and besides i hate hearing tito in a press conference he answers a simple question like if he was giving a speech
Click to expand...
I disagree. If you look at Tito's record, he has lost his last 4 of 5, and the 5th fight was a draw. That seems bad, but he has been surprisingly competitive. The Hamil loss was the only really bad one in my opinion, and that still went to a decision. But other than that he lost a split decision to Forrest (in a fight I would argue Tito won). Forrest is still ranked in the top 10 on most websites. He lost a decision to Machida, but nearly submitted him in the last round. From what I recall Machida was saved by the bell. Machida is ranked in the top 5 on most sites still. He would have won the Rashad Evans fight but lost a point for grabbing the fence and it went to a draw. Rashad is fighting for the title.
A 5 fight loss/draw streak seems terrible, but I still think Tito has something left in him. I'm glad they gave him another shot.
Click to expand...
You had Tito winning the Griffin fight? :lol: Dude, he shouldn't have been awarded the W in their first fight, let alone the second! Again, :lol:
Machida was NOT saved by the bell, he escaped on his own. Outside of that one shining moment, Lyoto made Tito look, well, what he is.... old, slow and full of himself.
The Evans fight fence grab?? Uhhhh... he would have been taken down if he hadn't grabbed it and besides.... that was 3.5 years ago. about 10 months following his last WIN!