Do you think Ben Askren will come to UFC soon?
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I for one hope not.
He may be undefeated, but then again who has he beaten to warrant to me and the fans of the UFC, that he would be one of the best at 170?
He looks like a good wrestler, but he's not very exciting, and his striking is abysmal.
To me he would be no different than Jake Rosholt; he might get a few lucky wins in the octagon but he will get tapped or TKOd over and over until the UFC finally releases him to go back to Bellator.
frontstreet said:
I for one hope not.
He may be undefeated, but then again who has he beaten to warrant to me and the fans of the UFC, that he would be one of the best at 170?
He looks like a good wrestler, but he's not very exciting, and his striking is abysmal.
To me he would be no different than Jake Rosholt; he might get a few lucky wins in the octagon but he will get tapped or TKOd over and over until the UFC finally releases him to go back to Bellator.
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He won't get tapped his grappling skills are far above "a wrestlers". He does need work on his striking and I bet you will see improvement there. He is also an interesting personality and incredibly achievement oriented (similar to GSP).
I think Bellator needs to keep him and take care of him. It would be interesting to see him in the mix in the UFC.
sourpuss said:
I don't know, but you asking that made me realize the WW division is almost destined to be ruled by wrestlers.
Askren would fit right in and would match up well against Shields, Fitch, Kos or GSP.
Who knows :?
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askren would get mauled by all 4 of them. expect possibly koscheck. maybe in a year or two if he keeps improving
Yes he deserves to be in the UFC.
He is not a good wrestler, hes without a doubt one of the VERY BEST wrestlers in ALL of MMA. He would be a tough fight for anyone in the UFCs WW division.
I would like to see him fight Fitch... and give him a taste o his own medicine. How great would it be to see Fitch get Fitched?!?!?!
FIGHTMAGNET said:
Not while he's Bellator Ww. Champ. He'll have to lose his belt, then another one or two, (depending on what his contract is) then when that happens, you'll get a bunch of people that say he don't deserve to be in the UFC. :? , because of exactly that.
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Thats a pickle.
TokyoJoe said:
Yes he deserves to be in the UFC.
He is not a good wrestler, hes without a doubt one of the VERY BEST wrestlers in ALL of MMA.
He would be a tough fight for anyone in the UFCs WW division.
I would like to see him fight Fitch... and give him a taste o his own medicine. How great would it be to see Fitch get Fitched?!?!?!
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At least we can agree on some things. :lol:
ResoluteProtector said:
At least we can agree on some things. :lol:
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Good to hear. How terrible would it be if everyone agreed on everything...sounds like an Episode from the Twilight Zone if you ask me.
In all seriousness, I see Ben eventually getting a hold of and controlling just about every single UFC WW...including GSP.
Ben Askren is way too one dimensional at this point to make any real noise in the UFC. He'd get slaughtered by the upper echelon of welterweights there. He has looked impressive, no doubt, but his level of competition has been way less than stellar. People are seriously overestimating his abilities based on what he has done in Bellator.
A couple years (and a loss or two to learn from) and some rounding out of his skills down the road, I'd love to see him in the UFC.
BaconBits said:
Ben Askren is way too one dimensional at this point to make any real noise in the UFC. He'd get slaughtered by the upper echelon of welterweights there. He has looked impressive, no doubt, but his level of competition has been way less than stellar. People are seriously overestimating his abilities based on what he has done in Bellator.
A couple years (and a loss or two to learn from) and some rounding out of his skills down the road, I'd love to see him in the UFC.
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Fitch is pretty one dimensional too. Has that stopped him from being the no.2 or 3 WW in the world? Fitch would not out-wrestle Askren so Askren could definitely possibly win that fight. The fact is WW is the wrestlers division. Askren is one of the best wrestler to ever enter MMA. You would think his striking has to be improving, I would love to see him in the UFC after beating the guy who wins the next WW tournament. Not going to happen though because he is locked in with Bellator right now.
killadakiller said:
BaconBits said:
Ben Askren is way too one dimensional at this point to make any real noise in the UFC. He'd get slaughtered by the upper echelon of welterweights there. He has looked impressive, no doubt, but his level of competition has been way less than stellar. People are seriously overestimating his abilities based on what he has done in Bellator.
A couple years (and a loss or two to learn from) and some rounding out of his skills down the road, I'd love to see him in the UFC.
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Fitch is pretty one dimensional too. Has that stopped him from being the no.2 or 3 WW in the world? Fitch would not out-wrestle Askren so Askren could definitely possibly win that fight. The fact is WW is the wrestlers division. Askren is one of the best wrestler to ever enter MMA. You would think his striking has to be improving, I would love to see him in the UFC after beating the guy who wins the next WW tournament. Not going to happen though because he is locked in with Bellator right now.
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Fitch's stand up skills, while not the greatest, are still miles ahead of Askren's. I wouldn't be so sure that his wrestling skills are so much better than the UFC 170ers either. Credentials don't mean a whole lot in mma, as we've seen many times. It's all about how well you transition your skills to mma, and until I see Askren fight a great mma wrestler (which he hasn't yet), I'm going to be very skeptical of how he'll do at the upper levels in the UFC.
TokyoJoe said:
ResoluteProtector said:
At least we can agree on some things. :lol:
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Good to hear. How terrible would it be if everyone agreed on everything...sounds like an Episode from the Twilight Zone if you ask me.
In all seriousness, I see Ben eventually getting a hold of and controlling just about every single UFC WW...including GSP.
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Interesting. I believe anything is possible.