Originally posted by: Shin to the Chin Date: April 07, 2013 at 08:10 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ea-to-make-the-next-ufc-games.46990/
hollowdaboss said:
THQ ruined the UFC series of games. EA MMA blew THQ UFC out of the water. EA Sports is going to do a way better job than THQ.
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How did they ruin it?
I wish we would actually get some updates on the progress of the game. Been waiting a long time since they announced it and still haven't heard anything.
I played EA Fight Night Champion(made by EA Canada which is making the next UFC) for a long time and still do but, they released the game with many online and offline problems. Online being exploits like body spam, perfect block(block pumping which is tapping the block button over and over) lag switches(used by people on almost every online game) People were able to import boxers like Mike Tyson and replace a lower rated fighter like Sonny Liston yet it still shows Liston so you basically get tricked into thinking the guy your about to play is picking a lower rank fighter when in reality your playing the top rated guy in the game, quite a piss off. Other people were able to figure how to climb up the world rankings with cheating, how ever the hell they did that. A guy can also headbutt you to DQ himself or he can shut off his PS3/360 and half the time the game won't give you a win or ranking points, meaning your opponent gets away without a loss or losing rank points. There is countless other things but I don't have enough time before I goto work to explain how they sold a buggy game that they haven't been able to fix.
All that being said, I hope they are taking their time with the UFC game and don't butcher it like they did with Fight Night.
Desalvatore said:
I wish we would actually get some updates on the progress of the game. Been waiting a long time since they announced it and still haven't heard anything.
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They're probably waiting for the next gen. I'm thinking they won't be releasing it just for this gen when the next gen starts it 7-8 months.
Edit: In fact, I just read an article from EA stating that 10 months ago they were thinking it was possible it wouldn't come out until the next gen, which seems to be all but confirmed now.
mma_guru333 said:
They're probably waiting for the next gen. I'm thinking they won't be releasing it just for this gen when the next gen starts it 7-8 months.
Edit: In fact, I just read an article from EA stating that 10 months ago they were thinking it was possible it wouldn't come out until the next gen, which seems to be all but confirmed now.
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Wow, that's going to be great to see the better graphics in the next game. I'm going to have to check some trailers for the next gen if they have any gameplay footage to get an idea of the quality.
Desalvatore said:
Wow, that's going to be great to see the better graphics in the next game. I'm going to have to check some trailers for the next gen if they have any gameplay footage to get an idea of the quality.
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I don't think they have anything yet, but I'd expect to hear something around late May and into June. E3 time.
I'm sure we'll see something at E3. Maybe nothing more than a sizzle trailer, like they did with the Chuck/Rampage one for the original, but maybe we'll get to catch a few glimpses of some screen shots at least.
imhungry4444 said:
http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugge...ed-worst-company-america-again-170932002.html
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EA may be bad company (IMO the later Fight Night games are great) but didn't THQ go bankrupt? I always remember hearing how fast THQ fell off. Fu**ing Saints Row was their best franchise. UFC 1-3 was rock 'em sock 'em robots with take downs and submissions.
Personally I think EA has it down with stand up fighting, punch wise. Fight Night 4 and Champions had the best striking I've ever seen in a game. And they've already had practice with EA MMA. Again, IMHO, THQ couldn't really do sh*t from Undisputed 1-3. Virtually the same thing. Yeah, EA's had the same problem, but that's mostly due in part to them cranking out Madden games every year. I think EA UFC will blow UFC 3 out of the water.
Fisticuffs said:
Personally I think EA has it down with stand up fighting, punch wise. Fight Night 4 and Champions had the best striking I've ever seen in a game. And they've already had practice with EA MMA.
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I'd agree with this. EA MMA's stand-up was better than Undisputed's. Also the Fight Night games are pretty awesome, imo. I don't a ton online, so I don't have any gripes about servers or cheaters or whatever.
Originally posted by: Shin to the Chin Date: April 15, 2013 at 01:30 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ea-to-make-the-next-ufc-games.46990/
mma_guru333 said:
I'd agree with this. EA MMA's stand-up was better than Undisputed's. Also the Fight Night games are pretty awesome, imo. I don't a ton online, so I don't have any gripes about servers or cheaters or whatever.
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How was EAs stand up better? All the stand up is, is a constant stream of button mashing and it was extremely east to spam.
Shin to the Chin said:
How was EAs stand up better? All the stand up is, is a constant stream of button mashing and it was extremely east to spam.
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You're saying that EA MMA's stand-up is button mashing and Undisputed's is not?
Originally posted by: Shin to the Chin Date: April 17, 2013 at 09:03 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ea-to-make-the-next-ufc-games.46990/
mma_guru333 said:
You're saying that EA MMA's stand-up is button mashing and Undisputed's is not?
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Without a doubt. If you try to button mash in UFC 3 you get KOed while you can stack a bunch of wins by button mashing in EAs game.
Shin to the Chin said:
Without a doubt. If you try to button mash in UFC 3 you get KOed while you can stack a bunch of wins by button mashing in EAs game.
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Well I simply do not agree.
Originally posted by: Shin to the Chin Date: April 18, 2013 at 07:37 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/ea-to-make-the-next-ufc-games.46990/
mma_guru333 said:
Well I simply do not agree.
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I virtually always smash button mashers in UFC 3. And the only way to beat button mashers in EAs game is to be awesome at parrying to the point you can stop almost all of the strikes.
Shin to the Chin said:
Without a doubt. If you try to button mash in UFC 3 you get KOed while you can stack a bunch of wins by button mashing in EAs game.
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How can you button mash when the striking system is based around stick movements?
abc0331 said:
How can you button mash when the striking system is based around stick movements?
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Especially when the game he's arguing for uses the face buttons...
I have to agree with guru on this one. I faced way more button mashers in Undisputed online than I did in EA MMA. In Undisputed, almost everyone spammed the hell out of power punches and head kicks. EA MMA used a lot of physics based striking, so it was a lot easier to catch someone and one shot them off a counter than UFC was, IMO. It always seemed to me like UFC was based off of a life bar system. You could rock/KO anyone at literally any time in EA MMA with a perfectly timed counter. You usually would have to land a good 3-4 clean power shots in a row just to rock someone in UFC.
Now, I will say that UFC's ground system was far and away superior to EA's. If they could just combine the two, it would be the perfect MMA game.
GoodCat said:
I have to agree with guru on this one. I faced way more button mashers in Undisputed online than I did in EA MMA. In Undisputed, almost everyone spammed the hell out of power punches and head kicks. EA MMA used a lot of physics based striking, so it was a lot easier to catch someone and one shot them off a counter than UFC was, IMO. It always seemed to me like UFC was based off of a life bar system. You could rock/KO anyone at literally any time in EA MMA with a perfectly timed counter. You usually would have to land a good 3-4 clean power shots in a row just to rock someone in UFC.
Now, I will say that UFC's ground system was far and away superior to EA's. If they could just combine the two, it would be the perfect MMA game.
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Agreed.
I loved the stand-up physics and animations in EA MMA much, much more than Undisputed, but their ground game was pretty poor. Undisputed had a smoother ground game (still far from perfect, but MMA is still young to game devs) but much more spammy striking and it didn't seem very realistic whatsoever.