England/Japan on the aspect of wrestling switched

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Originally posted by: PayaamElixir
Date: March 11, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/england-japan-on-the-aspect-of-wrestling-switched.11449/

and sent to mma. Striking kind of goes to any fighter. Jujitsu goes to Brazil. And wrestling goes to America. When talking about, general sense of who has the strongest of those traits in mma. Now would you say japanese or english fighters are better at wrestling. I know the english have a rep on being untrained there, so they will work on it and it is already improving. But right now, from the fighters that are in mma from England and Japan. Which country is stronger in that element?
 
Originally posted by: -Hammer-
Date: March 11, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/england-japan-on-the-aspect-of-wrestling-switched.11449/

In my personal opinion, I have always found that the Japanese, and Asian fighters in general tend more towards Striking and Clinch work then wrestling. This is probably because many of the martial arts of the region that are rooted in asian culture ten to focus more on the stand-up then ground game. Karate, Kung Ku, Muay Thai, Aikido, traditional Jujitsu/Judo and even Sumo are for the most part stand up affairs with a degree of clinch fighting.
On England's end of things, I find most fighters are two breeds. Most commonly are boxers who have either expanded into kickboxing and then picked up a ground game or fighters with some other ground trait, like Judo or BJJ and focused a bit more on striking and wrestling. I'd give the English a bit more of an advantage, as in Japan it seems strikers are in more demand and more marketable and thus you don't see much wrestling going on there.
Without a doubt though, wrestling belongs to the US and to a lesser extent Russia (although Sambo is more common).
 
Originally posted by: PayaamElixir
Date: March 12, 2009 at 12:16 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/england-japan-on-the-aspect-of-wrestling-switched.11449/

I picked England but maybe Japan would have been a better answer. I really cant think of any proficient English mma guys who can wrestle. Wheres with japan, I think you have 3 guys who are well rounded at mma, who have underated wrestling, Mach,Caol, and Yushin. But moving forward, it seems england is more inclined to work on that.
 
Originally posted by: josh3588
Date: March 12, 2009 at 12:44 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/england-japan-on-the-aspect-of-wrestling-switched.11449/

:?
 
Originally posted by: 00ireland99
Date: March 12, 2009 at 03:56 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/england-japan-on-the-aspect-of-wrestling-switched.11449/

josh3588 said:
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Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: March 12, 2009 at 10:07 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/england-japan-on-the-aspect-of-wrestling-switched.11449/

japan has had and have lots of wrestleres...
 
Originally posted by: PayaamElixir
Date: March 12, 2009 at 01:42 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/england-japan-on-the-aspect-of-wrestling-switched.11449/

Seems likely. I wonder if Kid Yamamoto will help sway this. And England does have Paul Kelly and John. FoSho.
 
Originally posted by: SheerTerror
Date: March 12, 2009 at 01:53 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/england-japan-on-the-aspect-of-wrestling-switched.11449/

I would say Japan. They don't have as many world class wrestlers as the US, but there's plenty of solid wrestlers and ground fighters even though they seem to prefer stand up. I always viewed fighter from England as more boxing/kickboxing. I honnestly can't name a single brittish fighter who is primarily a wrestler.
 
Originally posted by: PayaamElixir
Date: March 12, 2009 at 02:38 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/england-japan-on-the-aspect-of-wrestling-switched.11449/

Would'it it be cool if there was a japan/england tuf. Or france/england. Those would be interesting.
 
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