ESPN Bagging EliteXC calling them a Freak Show

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Originally posted by: the0n3
Date: June 04, 2008 at 06:44 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espn-bagging-elitexc-calling-them-a-freak-show.2149/
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Fantastic video here from ESPN talking about the elitexc card and the reporter bags the poo poo out of elite and calls them out on questionable stoppages and poor production, pretty funny stuff
http://www.mma-fight-video.com/mainstream-media-pisses-on-elite-xc-primetime
 
Originally posted by: lightsout84
Date: June 04, 2008 at 07:23 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espn-bagging-elitexc-calling-them-a-freak-show.2149/
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yeah many of the local newspapers around my area are bashing the hell out of mma after the elitexc show. kinda pissed me off when i read all the articles, i mean i thought elitexc sucked too but they are makin it sound like this was the best mma could come up with...i could really tell that most of these reporters had no clue about mma and that this was probably their first fight card they have ever seen...they dont have a clue
 
Originally posted by: ShadyCambo
Date: June 04, 2008 at 07:35 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espn-bagging-elitexc-calling-them-a-freak-show.2149/
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That's the problem they don't have a clue, but the only glimpse of a clue into MMA they got was EliteXC.
Assume for a second baseball wasn't on free TV, ever, if I was trying to push it, would I showcase a game of AA affiliates of the Royals and Pirates? No if I truly wanted to sell you it, I'd give you the Red Sox and the Yankees (well maybe not the yanks this year, but you get the point)
If what you saw was minor league then you wouldn't believe the hype of MLB, just how after seeing amateur production and sub par night of fights these reporters don't believe the hype of MMA.
 
Originally posted by: Steph8983
Date: June 04, 2008 at 07:40 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espn-bagging-elitexc-calling-them-a-freak-show.2149/
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He hit the name on the head. He said to the world what all of us have been talking about. It was a complete mess and an embarassment.
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: June 04, 2008 at 07:49 PM
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it's like the saying, you don't get a second chance to make a first impression. unfortunately this impression was viewed by like 6 million people. so many people say, any publicity is good publicity, but it's not. i've watched a lot of bad or uninspired mma shows, so i was expecting a second rate show, but this one(first time watching elite) was just beyond everything, it did set MMA back, maybe not the 5 years or whatever, but it did do damage are far as the business side goes.
 
Originally posted by: BRAD
Date: June 04, 2008 at 08:45 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espn-bagging-elitexc-calling-them-a-freak-show.2149/
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Jak said:
it did set MMA back, maybe not the 5 years or whatever, but it did do damage are far as the business side goes.
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as far as the business side goes i dont think it hurt them, in fact i believe it will help out in the long run. You had 2 different channels, one a network channel, and the other a cable channel that is not widely available, and they both had record ratings respectively.... i am in NO WAY defending the network show. It had its shortcomings, quite a few of them. However if you look at all the coverage mma got in the last week, it phenominal.... ESPN TV n radio had every personallity talking about it before and after the airings. From Mike n Mike all the way through AllNight with Jason Smith were taking calls and emails, devoting major portions of their show to it, Sportcenter ran major coverage as did First Take. Lets not even talk about all the other cable new services from Fox to CNN to Bloomburg mentioned. And the majority of the ppl i listned to, the ones in the espn side, actually admitted from the start that they new the EXC was the equiv of say AA or AAA baseball in comparrison to the UFC.
The WEC, after almost increasing viewership by 250%, is poised to bring in more talent, bring in more ad revenue, create an even better and bigger show, and create viable stars, such as Faber, Torres, Jens still has name value, and Brian Stann.
Did the EXC do some damage, yes, everything has its haters, but if anything i think the real winners in this is ZUFFA, LLC
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
 
Originally posted by: Hopecrusher
Date: June 05, 2008 at 01:08 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espn-bagging-elitexc-calling-them-a-freak-show.2149/
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of course there knockin it cause they arent producing it! Im a fan of most sports and i watch and listen to espn/radio but to get any mma i have to change the channel! they dont want you to change the channel cause there the world wide leader in sports!
 
Originally posted by: Showdown
Date: June 05, 2008 at 01:11 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espn-bagging-elitexc-calling-them-a-freak-show.2149/
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PTI(My favorite espn show of all time) has been baggin the XC fight all week. Then again, they just flat out dont like MMA.
 
Originally posted by: lightsout84
Date: June 05, 2008 at 02:10 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espn-bagging-elitexc-calling-them-a-freak-show.2149/
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if i had the article with me i would share it with you guys...it pissed me off pretty good and im tellin ya im a laid back kinda guy and it had me goin...they said that boxing looks like it is still the king as far as man to man combat goes..LOL! :lol: i dunno, i have alot more to say about this subject but i have been drinkin so i'll stop
 
Originally posted by: KnuklHed
Date: June 05, 2008 at 05:30 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espn-bagging-elitexc-calling-them-a-freak-show.2149/
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Hopecrusher said:
of course there knockin it cause they arent producing it! Im a fan of most sports and i watch and listen to espn/radio but to get any mma i have to change the channel! they dont want you to change the channel cause there the world wide leader in sports!
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It doesn't really matter who's knocking it, as long as it's being knocked in the main stream media. Gary Shaw has said that he won't listen to the online MMA community's opinion, because his job is to put "asses in seats", not take orders from fan clubs. But he cannot ignore the MSM, as his job includes keeping his product viable, and he cannot afford to have it marginalized by bad press. So while that first show didn't do MMA's continued move towards free TV or EliteXC's prospect of remaining there any favors, maybe the thrashing it's taking now will halp Shaw get his head out of his *** enough to recognize his mistakes and fix his production.
 
Originally posted by: Steph8983
Date: June 05, 2008 at 08:26 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espn-bagging-elitexc-calling-them-a-freak-show.2149/
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Showdown said:
PTI(My favorite espn show of all time) has been baggin the XC fight all week. Then again, they just flat out dont like MMA.
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lol I love PTI but I haven't watched them all week I can just imagine what they have been saying.
 
Originally posted by: Brick
Date: June 05, 2008 at 08:37 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espn-bagging-elitexc-calling-them-a-freak-show.2149/
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Steph8983 said:
Showdown said:
PTI(My favorite espn show of all time) has been baggin the XC fight all week. Then again, they just flat out dont like MMA.
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lol I love PTI but I haven't watched them all week I can just imagine what they have been saying.
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I wouldn't put too much stock in that; usually a bunch of middle-aged sportswriters who probably still refer to boxing as the "sweet science."
 
Originally posted by: Steph8983
Date: June 05, 2008 at 08:40 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espn-bagging-elitexc-calling-them-a-freak-show.2149/
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Brick said:
Steph8983 said:
Showdown said:
PTI(My favorite espn show of all time) has been baggin the XC fight all week. Then again, they just flat out dont like MMA.
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lol I love PTI but I haven't watched them all week I can just imagine what they have been saying.
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I wouldn't put too much stock in that; usually a bunch of middle-aged sportswriters who probably still refer to boxing as the "sweet science."
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They are actually really funny, and what does being middle aged have to do with anything?
 
Originally posted by: Brick
Date: June 05, 2008 at 08:44 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espn-bagging-elitexc-calling-them-a-freak-show.2149/
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Steph8983 said:
They are actually really funny, and what does being middle aged have to do with anything?
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Not a dig, just that people of that age group tend to react with more hostility to MMA.
 
Originally posted by: KnuklHed
Date: June 05, 2008 at 08:47 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espn-bagging-elitexc-calling-them-a-freak-show.2149/
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Brick said:
Steph8983 said:
They are actually really funny, and what does being middle aged have to do with anything?
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Not a dig, just that people of that age group tend to react with more hostility to MMA.
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The funny thing is that we are a whole lot closer to middle age than Steph.
 
Originally posted by: KnuklHed
Date: June 05, 2008 at 08:52 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espn-bagging-elitexc-calling-them-a-freak-show.2149/
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Brick said:
Steph8983 said:
Showdown said:
PTI(My favorite espn show of all time) has been baggin the XC fight all week. Then again, they just flat out dont like MMA.
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lol I love PTI but I haven't watched them all week I can just imagine what they have been saying.
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I wouldn't put too much stock in that; usually a bunch of middle-aged sportswriters who probably still refer to boxing as the "sweet science."
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I think a lot of sportswriters are gonna lash out because they don't want to accept it. They've spent careers learning the intricacies of traditional sports and memorizing stats, so this "crazy new fad" threatens that they may have to learn something new. Many crossover attempts have been greeted by laughter and contempt from fans who are more knowledgable than the new "experts".
 
Originally posted by: Steph8983
Date: June 05, 2008 at 09:22 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espn-bagging-elitexc-calling-them-a-freak-show.2149/
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I think ESPN has been very open to MMA. They often talk about up coming fights and this is pretty much the first negative thing I have heard them say about it. I think Jim Rome is awesome and what he said about the EliteXC show was dead on. If anything ESPN has embraced MMA.
 
Originally posted by: MrJames
Date: June 05, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espn-bagging-elitexc-calling-them-a-freak-show.2149/
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Steph8983 said:
I think ESPN has been very open to MMA. They often talk about up coming fights and this is pretty much the first negative thing I have heard them say about it. I think Jim Rome is awesome and what he said about the EliteXC show was dead on. If anything ESPN has embraced MMA.
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I am home to watch ATH & PTI religously everday at 5pm EST or I DVR it. I was going to start a thread on this topic matter fact. But Wilbon and the ATH crew (except the young guy outta Miami) slammed MMA in general. Jay said it belonged in the back of a bar!
I am sooooo sick and tired of these middle aged non athletic types slamming the sport! They want to cover Golf, NASCAR, and horse racing and call them sports but when it comes to MMA they dismiss it.
IMO, MMA fighters are some of the truest athletes on the planet! Why shower a boxer with all of the props and not an MMA fighter??? MMA is not a sport the said...
And if you want to get into the definition of a sport, IMO, any event where you compete against a "HUMAN" defense is a sport! That's that!
So kiss my *** golf, Nascar, horse racing, and all the other BS stuff ESPN gives toooooooo much love to!!!
MrJames breathes out....
 
Originally posted by: BRAD
Date: June 05, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espn-bagging-elitexc-calling-them-a-freak-show.2149/
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Showdown said:
PTI(My favorite espn show of all time) has been baggin the XC fight all week. Then again, they just flat out dont like MMA.
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hey SHOW is TONY ur BOY !!!!
man i grew up reading Wilbon and Kornheiser in the washington post every sunday, i love those 2 guys and IMO i think they are two of the very best actual sports reporters in the US. I love thier show....... 5 Good Mins
Good nite Canada
P T I
 
Originally posted by: Brick
Date: June 05, 2008 at 11:13 AM
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BRAD said:
man i grew up reading Wilbon and Kornheiser in the washington post every sunday, i love those 2 guys and IMO i think they are two of the very best actual sports reporters in the US. I love thier show....... 5 Good Mins
Good nite Canada
P T I
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But even you have to admit that they need to get Kornheiser as far away as possible from Monday Night Football.
 
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