ESPN's Top 10 Pound for Pound

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Originally posted by: Aaron_Milner
Date: March 11, 2011 at 12:56 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espns-top-10-pound-for-pound.36480/
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MMALive just announced:
UFC 1. Anderson Silva
UFC 2. Georges St. Pierre
UFC 3. Jose Aldo
UFC 4. Frankie Edgar
UFC 5. Shogun Rua
UFC 6. Dominic Cruz
UFC 7. Cain Velasquez
UFC 8. Jon Jones
UFC 9. Jake Shields
UFC 10. Gray Maynard
It's just the UFC champs, looking at the top 7. I think that's kind of discrediting. As if no #1 contender ("Bones") is better than any UFC champion? Like there's that big of a gap between the champs and the contenders, that there's enough room for all of the champs to fit in?
I think the (my) top 4 are in a category of their own, called Absurdly Good, being Anderson, GSP, Aldo, and Jon Jones.
Right below that are a bunch of guys that have beaten everyone they possibly could, and are just at the misfortune of competing in the same sport as the top 4, being Cain, Edgar, Cruz, Maynard, Rashad, Shields.
 
Originally posted by: Aaron_Milner
Date: March 11, 2011 at 12:59 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espns-top-10-pound-for-pound.36480/
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That's right, no Shogun. I love the guy, but Rashad and/or Jon Jones will/would beat him at least 80% of the time. I think Machida would beat him 75% of the time, and a lot of you are scrambling to reply to this and yell at me, but remember this:
Machida definitely won the first fight, and was throwing Rua around like a girl in the second fight until he got clipped behind the ear. I'm not trying to make this a Lyoto conversation, but I think Cruz and Cain definitely deserve to be ranked higher than him. He beat a washed up Chuck and Coleman before the Lyoto fights. How is that more respectable than what Maynard has done?
 
Originally posted by: Aaron_Milner
Date: March 11, 2011 at 01:00 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espns-top-10-pound-for-pound.36480/
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EdoKaz818 said:
lmao jon jones
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Put your money where your mouth is. Paypal
 
Originally posted by: EdoKaz818
Date: March 11, 2011 at 01:00 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espns-top-10-pound-for-pound.36480/
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Aaron_Milner said:
That's right, no Shogun. I love the guy, but Rashad and/or Jon Jones will/would beat him at least 80% of the time. I think Machida would beat him 75% of the time, and a lot of you are scrambling to reply to this and yell at me, but remember this:
Machida definitely won the first fight, and was throwing Rua around like a girl in the second fight until he got clipped behind the ear. I'm not trying to make this a Lyoto conversation, but I think Cruz and Cain definitely deserve to be ranked higher than him. He beat a washed up Chuck and Coleman before the Lyoto fights. How is that more respectable than what Maynard has done?
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Originally posted by: Aaron_Milner
Date: March 11, 2011 at 01:02 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espns-top-10-pound-for-pound.36480/
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Miletich brings up good points, about Alvarez and Melendez, and I was surprised he didn't mention Nick Diaz, and he also thinks Cain should be higher (he had him #4)
 
Originally posted by: MrBookman
Date: March 11, 2011 at 01:06 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espns-top-10-pound-for-pound.36480/
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Edgar is above aldo easily.
 
Originally posted by: Aaron_Milner
Date: March 11, 2011 at 01:07 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espns-top-10-pound-for-pound.36480/
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I feel like Manny was a legit UFC LW, and Aldo made him look like an amateur FW
 
Originally posted by: Bofauxgalicious
Date: March 11, 2011 at 01:12 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espns-top-10-pound-for-pound.36480/
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Aaron_Milner said:
I feel like Manny was a legit UFC LW, and Aldo made him look like an amateur FW
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A legit UFC LW who got ko'ed by Rob Emerson in 12 seconds right?
 
Originally posted by: snakechamer
Date: March 11, 2011 at 01:52 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espns-top-10-pound-for-pound.36480/
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Ranking are subjective so everybody will disagree. Hilarious that people are blasting Josh. You just disagree with the guy.
 
Originally posted by: smartigan
Date: March 11, 2011 at 02:11 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espns-top-10-pound-for-pound.36480/
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Edgar and Aldo above Shogun is a joke
 
Originally posted by: Rocksteady
Date: March 11, 2011 at 02:55 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espns-top-10-pound-for-pound.36480/
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Aaron_Milner said:
That's right, no Shogun. I love the guy, but Rashad and/or Jon Jones will/would beat him at least 80% of the time. I think Machida would beat him 75% of the time, and a lot of you are scrambling to reply to this and yell at me, but remember this:
Machida definitely won the first fight, and was throwing Rua around like a girl in the second fight until he got clipped behind the ear. I'm not trying to make this a Lyoto conversation, but I think Cruz and Cain definitely deserve to be ranked higher than him. He beat a washed up Chuck and Coleman before the Lyoto fights. How is that more respectable than what Maynard has done?
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Maynard KO'd himself for one, nor has he ever been champion ever.
Shogun Rua is currently the UFC LHW champion, and he did beat Lyoto the first fight, and he TOOLED him the second.
Just cause the guy has bum knees doesn't mean he isn't a P4P great.
You have to put Shogun in the top 5 or something is wrong with the list. (IN MY OPINION.)
Also, NOT SURE IF SERIOUS.
 
Originally posted by: GOODNIGHTIRENE
Date: March 11, 2011 at 03:15 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espns-top-10-pound-for-pound.36480/
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its like one big advertisement for zuffa
 
Originally posted by: GOODNIGHTIRENE
Date: March 11, 2011 at 03:16 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espns-top-10-pound-for-pound.36480/
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you beat ryan bader and you are on the top 10 fighters in the world?
 
Originally posted by: Magson13
Date: March 11, 2011 at 04:04 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espns-top-10-pound-for-pound.36480/
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GOODNIGHTIRENE said:
its like one big advertisement for zuffa
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Exactly my thoughts. It's one thing to have a ton of UFC guys on there, but for 1-7 to be the champs, and 8-10 to be guys booked for title fights? Pretty ridiculous. Especially considering there are guys like Overeem who definitely deserve a spot. And what about Cyborg? She slaughters the women's 145 division. Gross just went UFC fanboy with his list, and that kinda makes me lose respect for him.
And I definitely agree that Bones doesn't deserve a spot. He hasn't proven himself against anyone good enough to be a P4P top tenner. He's at the bottom of the LHW top 10, imo. Maynard is a good fighter, but not quite worthy of making this list. And Shields put on a terrible performance in his last fight, I don't see how he even got a spot.... Shogun has a solid argument for him, but there should be a question mark next to him until after we see what he can do next Saturday.
 
Originally posted by: snakechamer
Date: March 11, 2011 at 04:07 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espns-top-10-pound-for-pound.36480/
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Magson13 said:
GOODNIGHTIRENE said:
its like one big advertisement for zuffa
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Exactly my thoughts. It's one thing to have a ton of UFC guys on there, but for 1-7 to be the champs, and 8-10 to be guys booked for title fights? Pretty ridiculous. Especially considering there are guys like Overeem who definitely deserve a spot. And what about Cyborg? She slaughters the women's 145 division. Gross just went UFC fanboy with his list, and that kinda makes me lose respect for him.
And I definitely agree that Bones doesn't deserve a spot. He hasn't proven himself against anyone good enough to be a P4P top tenner. He's at the bottom of the LHW top 10, imo. Maynard is a good fighter, but not quite worthy of making this list. And Shields put on a terrible performance in his last fight, I don't see how he even got a spot.... Shogun has a solid argument for him, but there should be a question mark next to him until after we see what he can do next Saturday.
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I would have a problem with Cyborg being on a P4P list because she doesn't really have any serious competition due to the face that female MMA divisions are so shallow.
 
Originally posted by: MoJoJo
Date: March 11, 2011 at 05:59 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espns-top-10-pound-for-pound.36480/
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OP, how are you going to have JJ above the champion he is supposed to fight? Im definitely riding the JJ train, but to have him above the champion is asinine.
 
Originally posted by: Magson13
Date: March 11, 2011 at 06:23 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espns-top-10-pound-for-pound.36480/
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The UFC heavyweight division is pretty shallow, yet Velasquez makes it onto top ten lists all the time. Cyborg has no real competition because she is so dominant over all the other women in the division. And to me, that's part of what makes her a top ten, that level of dominance. I'm not saying she's up near the top, but around the 8-10 area.
 
Originally posted by: abc0331
Date: March 12, 2011 at 01:28 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espns-top-10-pound-for-pound.36480/
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EdoKaz818 said:
Aaron_Milner said:
That's right, no Shogun. I love the guy, but Rashad and/or Jon Jones will/would beat him at least 80% of the time. I think Machida would beat him 75% of the time, and a lot of you are scrambling to reply to this and yell at me, but remember this:
Machida definitely won the first fight, and was throwing Rua around like a girl in the second fight until he got clipped behind the ear. I'm not trying to make this a Lyoto conversation, but I think Cruz and Cain definitely deserve to be ranked higher than him. He beat a washed up Chuck and Coleman before the Lyoto fights. How is that more respectable than what Maynard has done?
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Along with you.
 
Originally posted by: Hitman21
Date: March 12, 2011 at 05:17 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/espns-top-10-pound-for-pound.36480/
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abc0331 said:
EdoKaz818 said:
Aaron_Milner said:
That's right, no Shogun. I love the guy, but Rashad and/or Jon Jones will/would beat him at least 80% of the time. I think Machida would beat him 75% of the time, and a lot of you are scrambling to reply to this and yell at me, but remember this:
Machida definitely won the first fight, and was throwing Rua around like a girl in the second fight until he got clipped behind the ear. I'm not trying to make this a Lyoto conversation, but I think Cruz and Cain definitely deserve to be ranked higher than him. He beat a washed up Chuck and Coleman before the Lyoto fights. How is that more respectable than what Maynard has done?
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Along with you.
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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