Everything Bilderberg
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flound said:
abd said:
As to the Bilderberg group...Well Ive read a few books on the Bilderberg group so I have a strong understanding. What do you want to know about them? A bunch of politicians, media figures, CIA heads, bankers and wall street CEOs meet up every year for their "white shoe boy's" club where they cut deals behind the scenes and god only knows what else.
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What are the names of these lofty tomes one should peruse to get a strong understanding of the Bilderberg group? Exactly how would a fella go about enlightening himself about its duplicitous inner circle, the Bohemian Grove. I betcha the Vatican is involved, isn't it? Probably the Rothschild and Getty fortunes, too. The Queen as well. Was Colonel Sanders a member before he went t--- up?
I have to admit the white shoe boy thing confuses me - is that white boys with shoes or white shoes and they're boys who wear them? Is it racially segregated or is it an institutionalized footwear fetish? Women clearly must be excluded regardless, right? What do you think the god knows what else might be? Any ideas...
What kind of deals so they make? What else can you tell us?
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Well the Bilderberg has its own newsletter and it releases lists of members quite often however many of its members are not on those lists and are instead discovered when they are filmed arriving to those meetings (Rick Perry for example). You can look up who is a member yourself because It would take about 20 pages to list its full 50 year history but as I said it consists of politicians, bankers, CIA officials, corporate CEOs, and media figures. The members of the Vatican are involved along with the Rothschilds. If you want to find a specific person to research to understand Bilderberg then I would recommend researching David Rockefeller or Prince Bernhard of Netherlands being that they are two of the organizations most influential members.
How do you go about understanding bohemian grove? Well I am glad you asked me that. Why don't you start by watching what happens in there yourself? Luckily a journalist snuck in with a camera and filmed the mock human sacrifice (Aka The Cremation of Care Ceremony). Skip to 1:17:00.
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There is also rumored to be a bunch of homosexuality involved. Nixon had some interesting words in regards to his time at Bohemian Grove.
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Okay, that's a start. An eye-opener for sure.
But it still left some of my early questions unanswered. I'll number them to make it easier...
1) What are the names of the books you read?
2) Is the Vatican involved? It didn't appear to be in the video either way.
3) Same with the the heirs to the Rothschild. Damn european lovers.
4) And the Gettys, too. Can't leave them out.
5) I suspect the Queen sends a representative. She's rich and a noble.
6) I've always heard the Colonel Sanders was pretty shifty with his billions. Well, when he was alive, that is. Something about putting chemicals in his chicken that made you crave it fortnightly. And you know the old saying, "Never trust beady-eyed people!"
7) Still confused about the whole white boy shoe thing - is that white boys with shoes or white shoes and they're boys who wear them?
8) Do they work with or against freemasonry and/or the Skull and Bones crew?
9) Did Bill Gates get offered an invitation?
ABD said:
Now it’s my turn for questions:
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ABD said:
1) Do you deny the existence of Bilderberg (if so, I find that hilarious).
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Why would I ask questions about something I deny the existence of?
ABD said:
2) Do you deny that the group consists of the most powerful people in the world? If so then explain your answer.
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I have no idea as to the group's composition. Did you not notice me asking if certain people were in it?
ABD said:
3) Why are you so interested in them (btw I am interested in them myself, I am just curious why you are)?
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You brought it up.
ABD said:
4) If Bilderberg is a "joke", then how do they manage to get the most powerful people in the world to attend?
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I don't suppose you've noticed but not every post in the other thread or this one are mine. It appears that others have voiced their thoughts on the subject and some of those seem to take the idea of the Bilderberg Group less seriously than you. If you glance back, you'll find that I didn't not classify Bilderberg as a joke. Others surely did but not I.
ABD said:
5) What are your thoughts on the concept of Bilderberg: An environment where very influential people can have an off-the-record forum without media coverage to discuss important issues?
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Well, I think the ideas of off-the-record and media coverage to be mutually exclusive. I would think that you would have to eschew media coverage in order for an off the record discussion to take place at all.
ABD said:
6) Did you watch the mock human sacrifice in the Bohemian Grove video? What are your thoughts on the ceremony?
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I did. And I must say it was a little shocking.
I'm surprised at how amateurish their production values were. Truthfully, it went wrong in nearly every aspect. Horrible lighting, no sense of pace, too much dead air and frankly, that sound system was terrible. And the writing! Shakespeare fail 101. The music was dull and melodramatic.
The fireworks looked like something that would have made Corky exited and no one else. Ooh, a wall of fireworks. Lame.
Stunningly unoriginal lyrics. "No fire...no fire...no fire..." Real catchy. :roll:
I see your point. This is the what we have leading us and the best they can do is this hokey s---. Shameful. Somebody oughtta do something about this...
Flound said:
ABD said:
Now it’s my turn for questions:
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ABD said:
1) Do you deny the existence of Bilderberg (if so, I find that hilarious).
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Why would I ask questions about something I deny the existence of?
ABD said:
2) Do you deny that the group consists of the most powerful people in the world? If so then explain your answer.
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I have no idea as to the group's composition. Did you not notice me asking if certain people were in it?
ABD said:
3) Why are you so interested in them (btw I am interested in them myself, I am just curious why you are)?
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You brought it up.
ABD said:
4) If Bilderberg is a "joke", then how do they manage to get the most powerful people in the world to attend?
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I don't suppose you've noticed but not every post in the other thread or this one are mine. It appears that others have voiced their thoughts on the subject and some of those seem to take the idea of the Bilderberg Group less seriously than you. If you glance back, you'll find that I didn't not classify Bilderberg as a joke. Others surely did but not I.
ABD said:
5) What are your thoughts on the concept of Bilderberg: An environment where very influential people can have an off-the-record forum without media coverage to discuss important issues?
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Well, I think the ideas of off-the-record and media coverage to be mutually exclusive. I would think that you would have to eschew media coverage in order for an off the record discussion to take place at all.
ABD said:
6) Did you watch the mock human sacrifice in the Bohemian Grove video? What are your thoughts on the ceremony?
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I did. And I must say it was a little shocking.
I'm surprised at how amateurish their production values were. Truthfully, it went wrong in nearly every aspect. Horrible lighting, no sense of pace, too much dead air and frankly, that sound system was terrible. And the writing! Shakespeare fail 101. The music was dull and melodramatic.
The fireworks looked like something that would have made Corky exited and no one else. Ooh, a wall of fireworks. Lame.
Stunningly unoriginal lyrics. "No fire...no fire...no fire..." Real catchy. :roll:
I see your point. This is the what we have leading us and the best they can do is this hokey s**t. Shameful. Somebody oughtta do something about this...
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ownt.
ABD said:
owned? what? We weren't even debating. We are discussing an interesting topic.
Actually the only ownage in regards to this subject was a self-ownage by you about six months ago in a different thread, when you claimed that the Bilderberg group was just one big conspiracy
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I suppose you can make the same case for other groups like the senate, the UN, CFR, and the trilateral commission :? . But that would just be embarrassing if you did.
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I never denied the existence, only the influence. But you already knew that. s---, I was the one that pointed out that this supposedly "secret" group posts its agenda and membership online. Both of which points, I have astutely noted, you have adopted and recently repeated.
Brick said:
ABD said:
owned? what? We weren't even debating. We are discussing an interesting topic.
Actually the only ownage in regards to this subject was a self-ownage by you about six months ago in a different thread, when you claimed that the Bilderberg group was just one big conspiracy
.
I suppose you can make the same case for other groups like the senate, the UN, CFR, and the trilateral commission :? . But that would just be embarrassing if you did.
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I never denied the existence, only the influence. But you already knew that. s**t, I was the one that pointed out that this supposedly "secret" group posts its agenda and membership online. Both of which points, I have astutely noted, you have adopted and recently repeated.
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ownt.
Gnarcore said:
Bilderberg's biggest agenda has been keeping filipino off the boards! Good to see he has thwarted them!
Sup Phil! No much time at work for FB lately or I'd have said hello long ago.
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ya he has been 1 wording a few threads. Kinda like when a retired singer releases a few singles then has a huge coming out of retirement concert. One could only hope
ABD said:
Brick said:
ABD said:
owned? what? We weren't even debating. We are discussing an interesting topic.
Actually the only ownage in regards to this subject was a self-ownage by you about six months ago in a different thread, when you claimed that the Bilderberg group was just one big conspiracy
.
I suppose you can make the same case for other groups like the senate, the UN, CFR, and the trilateral commission :? . But that would just be embarrassing if you did.
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I never denied the existence, only the influence. But you already knew that. s**t, I was the one that pointed out that this supposedly "secret" group posts its agenda and membership online. Both of which points, I have astutely noted, you have adopted and recently repeated.
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Lol the Bilderberg group IS composed of the most influential people in the world and the meetings are kept in complete secrecy from the outside public. That is the whole point of the Bilderberg and why they were founded in the first place. Literally that is a fact. The entire reason why Bilderberg was created is so the most influential people in the world can meet up and have a private forum in secrecy from the public eye.
Your attempt to “debunk” the Bilderberg Group (its member's influence & the secrecy inside their meetings)is similar to someone trying to debunk that the moon exists (and its in space
) or that WW2 ever happened (and Jews died :shock: ). WTF is there even to debunk about the Bilderberg? It’s the most influential people in the world and they have private meetings in which the content is kept secret from the public. Is that too radical of a thought for you?
Maybe your doing a troll job. If so, well played... well played...
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if they're so secretive, who the f--- does some random guy on the internet (you) know enough about them to tell us what "the whole point" is?
if we accept that it's completely secretive, and we also accept that you know what you're talking about, that means you're in the group itself.
so you are either full of s--- on the secretive thing, of you're a bilderburg yourself.
your choice. enjoy the logical corner you've painted yourself into.
AgoniesCreep said:
Everything bilderburg? So this is a thread about all the presidential candidates & once again Ron Paul is excluded.
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You'll have to forgive me but when I created this thread, I was unaware that Presidential candidates and indeed sitting Presidents have attended both Bohemian Grove and the Bulderberg conferences. If Ron Paul is excluded it's because the world's elite don't think he's worthy of an invitation.
It's all on Paul if he's not that notewrothy yet.
grapplethis said:
ABD said:
Lol the Bilderberg group IS composed of the most influential people in the world and the meetings are kept in complete secrecy from the outside public. That is the whole point of the Bilderberg and why they were founded in the first place. Literally that is a fact. The entire reason why Bilderberg was created is so the most influential people in the world can meet up and have a private forum in secrecy from the public eye.
Your attempt to “debunk” the Bilderberg Group (its member's influence & the secrecy inside their meetings)is similar to someone trying to debunk that the moon exists (and its in space
) or that WW2 ever happened (and Jews died :shock: ). WTF is there even to debunk about the Bilderberg? It’s the most influential people in the world and they have private meetings in which the content is kept secret from the public. Is that too radical of a thought for you?
Maybe your doing a troll job. If so, well played... well played...
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if they're so secretive, who the f**k does some random guy on the internet (you) know enough about them to tell us what "the whole point" is?
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While it appears they value their privacy, they seem to have adopted one of the best ruses for conducting covert operations - do it in plain sight. Clearly, the group has a website and a media presence, if only from a PR standpoint, so some level of information is available. If mean, really, if we were to follow your logic to its inevitable conclusion, we shouldn't even be able to have this discussion because we wouldn't know they exist at all. So soem informatino is available.
Regardless, I think a fair protion of the research into the group's actvities has to be credited to the brave and interpid journalists that have risked to unearth these groups and supply us with videos.
if we accept that it's completely secretive, and we also accept that you know what you're talking about, that means you're in the group itself.
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As I said, we have to accept some level of secrecy that's less than complete, or it is as you say, ABD is a member. Considering his obvious level of antipathy, I think we can assume, fairly reliably, that ole ABD is not a Bildie-bird.
grapplethis said:
sooo....they're super secret but everyone knows they're going on?
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You're hung up a level of secrecy that is clearly not present. The premise you're relying on to debunk ABD's claims isn't one expressed by ABD - that a bit of a miss. It's a bit of a strawman argument.