Falling out of Love with the UFC?
- Thread starter Nastycrow
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Nope. While I agree things have been disappointing as of late. They are still puttin on new and exciting fights. I'm interested in Jones/Vitor. I'm intrigued about how UFC 153 I going to turn out. And let's not forget we are not even 2 months removed from what was an amazing night of free fights on Fox.
Same here.
Too many cards and slews of injuries make it hard.
Dana White continues to say aren't stretching themselves when they clearly are. A event was canceled (Also another big factor for me losing faith was scapegoating Jon Jones for the UFC decision to cancel 151)
Dana White's annoying smart mouth,
Greg Jackson makes more point fighters,
UFC letting champions pick their opponents (to clarify this i mean healthy guys like Condit who could of fought once or twice now while waiting for GSP, not guys like Jones who was prepare and who opponent canceled)
Yes, Dana said "If you don't think Jones vs. Belfort is intriguing, then DON'T WATCH IT!!" I wasn't going to watch it anyway. Don't get me wrong, I'm still gonna watch the half-dozen or so "big" PPV shows that they offer each year. But I will probably miss more 'tweener cards, and buy less UFC merchandise than I did in the past. (because of people like Dana White and Jon Jones).
1. too many cards to appease the brass at FOX
2. too many immediate rematches
3. too many injuries
4. dana white acting like a complete buffoon (you'd never see roger goodell, bud selig, or david stern carry themselves the way he does)
- in retrospect, the UFC seemed to hit its peak about 2 years ago. dana's unquenchable desire to conquer every single country, along with 12 free FOX shows a year has watered down the product. i buy PPV's for the entire card. granted the main event is the highlight, but just a year or two ago, all PPV's had intriguing matchups from top to bottom.
I think the same is happening to me. I no longer am super excited for the next card. I had never missed a card from UFC 66 till this year. I had bought every PPV and now am not as interested and have missed/not purchased 3 cards this year. I was really looking forward to Jones/Henderson, but I think that so many cards have made me not get as excited since if I miss one there's another around the corner.
Dana doesn't bother me. The Jones/UFC 151 fiasco didn't bother me as much as others. I think I had been feeling like this for a while now.
And it can't just be me, I used to have 10-15 people over for the big cards, and 7-10 for all other cards. Now it's 2-4 people that come over. Everyone still comes over for Silva though. It always seemed weird to me that he's not a big draw, yet all the casual fans I know only really care for Silva.
moosedish said:
4. dana white acting like a complete buffoon (you'd never see roger goodell, bud selig, or david stern carry themselves the way he does)
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Maybe you havnt been paying attention.
Bud is the biggest joke in pro sports leadership. He completely ignored the rampant cheating going on under his watch.
And roger and Stern are completely drunk on power.
Yep the excitement level nowadays are fairly low. Most cards are wateredown & not stacked like they used to be. You get co main events like Ellenbuger vs Hieron & are expected to pay for a card like that.
Not to mention the lighter weight classes are a turn off
Call me crazy but i get more excited for Strikeforce cards than I do for UFCs. Atleast all the stars are on the card & the events are spaced out enough
PLUS, look at A. Silva; refuses to fight Weidman, but dying to fight a washed up Bonnar. Suspicious?
This is starting to become bulls---. At least Evander Holyfield and Oscar DeLa fought THE BEST fighters out there. Sure, they didn't win every time, but they didn't come up with cockamemy excuses like these modern-day UFC guys are doing.
Nope. Although I generally have so much going on during the summer that I miss a couple of PPVs anyway, but with the Fox deal, I've been able to DVR a few events that I might have missed otherwise.
The injuries suck, no doubt, but that's the case with any sport. The fights are still good. What hurts is that some of the headlines have been stinkers, and a lot of MMA fans seem to put a pessimistic spin on things, making them seem worse than they are. I thought that the Maynard-Guida fight sucked, but the card as a whole was awesome. Yet even now, what do most fans remember? That the main event sucked.
Now, when fall and winter roll around here, and if my interest wanes, maybe I'll bump this thread and agree, but as of now, I don't think so.
FIGHTMAGNET said:
SEE - YA !!
If you can't take the good with the bad, the bad with the good, then ..............
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Get the f--- Out!! I watch every MMA card that is put on TV.. And there are some great fights.... But the UFC is where the best fighters fight. The only other org that has fighters I would put in the top ten of any weight class is OneFC. I can't wait for those to get on Axis.... Has there been a lot of BS, sure... But the UFC delivers better fights on a regular basis then any other org out there.
The last few week has been crazy with MMA news... And here we are in another I hate the UFC thread... WTF?
Sapper said:
FIGHTMAGNET said:
SEE - YA !!
If you can't take the good with the bad, the bad with the good, then ..............
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Get the f**k Out!!
I watch every MMA card that is put on TV.. And there are some great fights.... But the UFC is where the best fighters fight. The only other org that has fighters I would put in the top ten of any weight class is OneFC. I can't wait for those to get on Axis.... Has there been a lot of BS, sure... But the UFC delivers better fights on a regular basis then any other org out there.
The last few week has been crazy with MMA news... And here we are in another I hate the UFC thread... WTF?
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What ? You mean the OP right, like my quote says already only worded more professionally. lol :?
edit: I'd bet money you don't watch every mma card put on TV, there's literally hundreds. Score fighting Series you watch that one?
FIGHTMAGNET said:
Sapper said:
FIGHTMAGNET said:
SEE - YA !!
If you can't take the good with the bad, the bad with the good, then ..............
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Get the f**k Out!!
I watch every MMA card that is put on TV.. And there are some great fights.... But the UFC is where the best fighters fight. The only other org that has fighters I would put in the top ten of any weight class is OneFC. I can't wait for those to get on Axis.... Has there been a lot of BS, sure... But the UFC delivers better fights on a regular basis then any other org out there.
The last few week has been crazy with MMA news... And here we are in another I hate the UFC thread... WTF?
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What ? You mean the OP right, like my quote says only worded more professionally. lol :?
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Pretty sure he was agreeing with you/continuing your thought.
FIGHTMAGNET said:
Sapper said:
FIGHTMAGNET said:
SEE - YA !!
If you can't take the good with the bad, the bad with the good, then ..............
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Get the f**k Out!!
I watch every MMA card that is put on TV.. And there are some great fights.... But the UFC is where the best fighters fight. The only other org that has fighters I would put in the top ten of any weight class is OneFC. I can't wait for those to get on Axis.... Has there been a lot of BS, sure... But the UFC delivers better fights on a regular basis then any other org out there.
The last few week has been crazy with MMA news... And here we are in another I hate the UFC thread... WTF?
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What ? You mean the OP right, like my quote says already only worded more professionally. lol :?
edit: I'd bet money you don't watch every mma card put on TV, there's literally hundreds. Score fighting Series you watch that one?
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Yes, I was agreeing with you, and was talking to the OP... And no I have never seen Score Fighting Series... I guess I should have said that I watch every MMA event that my cable provider shows... I live in Alaska and have a s--- cable company... Maybe getting Direct TV soon though can't wait for that...
Some days I think I just shouldn't read MMA news. Most of the time what bums me out is match-ups and fight cards that get cancelled, as well as some attitudes you see around the MMA community. I wonder if I just tuned in on fight night I'd be happy with great nights of entertainment.
But, I'm an MMA fan, I can't help myself
Do I agree with all of the apparent management decisions by DW and the UFC? No. but am I an expert on managing a billion dollar MMA promotion? Hell no!
- UFC being over saturated
I Completely disagree, but I think that this attitude could come from MMA as not being so new and different as it was 10+ years ago. While promoting is still doing its job, it just doesn't have the epic feel it once did. Which is the nature of an evolving sport.
Also people complain about the talent pool and big names. No-one can fight forever. If you compare MMA to a sport like football (any of the codes) there will be teams that last for decades, and while the players change, the teams will still carry their own culture and following. MMA is not like this, it's a sport about the individual.
One main attitude I see is that there are older fighters that carry this epic aura, and the next generation are slammed for being perceived that they are not able to live up to it (you could also add the 'Pride' vs 'Todays MMA' or similar arguments here).
Plus the UFC needs to develop its own talent, it's no longer 'the superbowl of MMA' because fighters are locked in to only fight for the one promotion (to build brands), but it does have a standard of MMA that is higher than the others (broad statement I know) that it maintains when fighters aren't performing. Yet they still need to rotate in new fighters other wise we see the same fights over and over, or less fights (and they need to keep their business).
- injuries/rematches:
Lumping these two together because most of the time its victims of circumstance. People blame the new health insurance for the increase in injuries, but IMO without it there would be more fighters bowing out of MMA, taking longer breaks in between, or even less exciting fights due to fighters not being able to perform as well. Injury's are the part of MMA game we just need to suck up.
Rematches are victims of unfortunate circumstance (eg: creepy v MightyMouse/Davis v Prado), or exciting and really close fights (eg: Frankie Edgar). At the top level of competition fights aren't always going to be clear cut. Is this the UFCs fault? no. Is this the fighters fault? to an extent, yes (but what goes on in the cage is unpredictable, and it's one of the best things about MMA). Could the rules/judging/reffing be modified to improve fights? Hell yes! (but that's a separate argument).
- DW
you either love or hate the baldfather. But he was one of the people instrumental in getting MMA to where it is today. Do I agree with all of his decisions/attitudes? no. Do I think he Could benefit from changing some of his attitudes/behaviours? yes (though people may then still slam him for being more inconsistent). But the bottom line is that the UFC cannot make everybody happy, yet we still get a lot of good entertainment.
If your burnt out on watching MMA, as with everything else in life, you can take a break.