Fighters you want to see in a different weight divison

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Originally posted by: cool14
Date: March 07, 2009 at 10:20 AM
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Simple question , which fighters you want to see move to a different weight class.
1) Rashad Evens : He is a small LHW and usually comes in at 202. He used to wrestle at 174 pounds, so i am sure he can make the cut to 185.
2) Cain Velasquez: He is a small HW only 230 pounds. He comes from a wrestling background so the cut to 205 will be easy.
3) Loyoto Machida: Everytime i watch him fight , i wonder to my self why isnt this guy fighting at 185, he used to fight at 185 in the past , why not now.
4) Anderson Silva: He has dominated the 185 divison , left him move to 205 and try his luck with the big boys.
* Anderson Silva and Loyoto Machida are close friends and refuse to fight each other, let Silva move to 205 and Machida to 185, problem fixed.
 
Originally posted by: Whizzer
Date: March 07, 2009 at 10:43 AM
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Silva already moved up at the expense of James Irvin.
I think you answered your own question about Machida moving, if he and Silva are good friends as you say. Machida is on his way to a belt, so why cut down?
Valesquez cutting 25 pounds is only "easy" to type, even for wrestlers.
After the last disastrous experiment of a great fighter moving up (BJ Penn) I think I'm happy with everybody just where they are now.
 
Originally posted by: cool14
Date: March 07, 2009 at 11:28 AM
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Whizzer said:
Silva already moved up at the expense of James Irvin.
I think you answered your own question about Machida moving, if he and Silva are good friends as you say. Machida is on his way to a belt, so why cut down?
Valesquez cutting 25 pounds is only "easy" to type, even for wrestlers.
After the last disastrous experiment of a great fighter moving up (BJ Penn) I think I'm happy with everybody just where they are now.
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Forest and Rampage cut from 230 or 240, if they can do it, i am sure Valesquez can. Fighters who move down in weight , gain speed and power over the competition. Machida is a serious dangerous fighter at 205 , give him more speed and power at 185, he will be a killer.
 
Originally posted by: BadassCoffee
Date: March 07, 2009 at 12:40 PM
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cool14 said:
Whizzer said:
Silva already moved up at the expense of James Irvin.
I think you answered your own question about Machida moving, if he and Silva are good friends as you say. Machida is on his way to a belt, so why cut down?
Valesquez cutting 25 pounds is only "easy" to type, even for wrestlers.
After the last disastrous experiment of a great fighter moving up (BJ Penn) I think I'm happy with everybody just where they are now.
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Forest and Rampage cut from 230 or 240, if they can do it, i am sure Valesquez can.
Fighters who move down in weight , gain speed and power over the competition.
Machida is a serious dangerous fighter at 205 , give him more speed and power at 185, he will be a killer.
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I really would disagree on that, Brandon Vera would be considered very very quick at HW because most guys are bigger and slower, but at LHW where they are quicker, Brandon actually loses speed.
Since the competion would be smaller I agree they would be stronger though.
Cain should continue where he is at, I really believe it is easier to compete in the HW division then the LHW division.
 
Originally posted by: Grafik
Date: March 07, 2009 at 01:02 PM
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that'd be awesome if brock lesner would cut to middleweight to fight anderson silva. that would be a WAR!!!!!
 
Originally posted by: Gordon
Date: March 07, 2009 at 01:07 PM
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Grafik said:
that'd be awesome if brock lesner would cut to middleweight to fight anderson silva. that would be a WAR!!!!!
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:lol: :roll:
Lesnar cuts 20 lbs to make 265. There's NO WAY he could cut to even 205 let alone 185.
 
Originally posted by: BadassCoffee
Date: March 07, 2009 at 01:08 PM
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Gordon said:
Grafik said:
that'd be awesome if brock lesner would cut to middleweight to fight anderson silva. that would be a WAR!!!!!
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:lol: :roll:
Lesnar cuts 20 lbs to make 265. There's NO WAY he could cut to even 205 let alone 185.
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Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: March 07, 2009 at 01:15 PM
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doctorbadasscoffee said:
cool14 said:
Whizzer said:
Silva already moved up at the expense of James Irvin.
I think you answered your own question about Machida moving, if he and Silva are good friends as you say. Machida is on his way to a belt, so why cut down?
Valesquez cutting 25 pounds is only "easy" to type, even for wrestlers.
After the last disastrous experiment of a great fighter moving up (BJ Penn) I think I'm happy with everybody just where they are now.
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Forest and Rampage cut from 230 or 240, if they can do it, i am sure Valesquez can.
Fighters who move down in weight , gain speed and power over the competition.
Machida is a serious dangerous fighter at 205 , give him more speed and power at 185, he will be a killer.
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I really would disagree on that, Brandon Vera would be considered very very quick at HW because most guys are bigger and slower, but at LHW where they are quicker, Brandon actually loses speed.
Since the competion would be smaller I agree they would be stronger though.
Cain should continue where he is at, I really believe it is easier to compete in the HW division then the LHW division.
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I think fighting a monster like brock by no means should be easier than fighting guys your size. No LHW is not easier than HW, there is a reason why small HW (chuck, Page, Tito, Forrest, etc etc) chose to cut so much weight, it sure aint because they like to eat vegetables...
 
Originally posted by: BadassCoffee
Date: March 07, 2009 at 01:19 PM
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Well, I meant it would be easier to get to the top of the division. There is much less competition there, Randy was doing decent against Brock and I believe he would beat more guys in the HW division then in the LHW division..
 
Originally posted by: mmablaster
Date: March 07, 2009 at 01:38 PM
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I'm looking forward to see Wandy at 185. Rashad does look like he might be able to get to 185, but it wouldn't be easy. I think the walking weight numbers are sometimes exaggerated to psyche out opponents.
*Cutting weight isn't easy. Alistair Overeem fights better at HW than he does 205. I still can't believe he dominated Badr Hari in K-1 rules.
*There was a rumor that Rory Markum messed himself up on his last weight cut.
 
Originally posted by: cool14
Date: March 07, 2009 at 03:50 PM
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James Irvin used to fight as a HW he moved to LHW and now to MW.... talk about serious weight cutting, he was rubbed as LHW , how will he make the cut to MW is beyond me.
 
Originally posted by: Hitman21
Date: March 08, 2009 at 04:31 AM
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cool14 said:
Simple question , which fighters you want to see move to a different weight class.
1) Rashad Evens : He is a small LHW and usually comes in at 202. He used to wrestle at 174 pounds, so i am sure he can make the cut to 185.
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Rashad was a HW in TUF, and his considered to small for LHW. Imagine if he stayed at HW and fought some like Lesnar, Carwin or Gonzaga :roll:
I agree A Silva should move up, CroCop to LHW, Tito to HW, how about this one: Fedor at 205
and of course Faber at HW so he can kick Kimbos *** :lol: or stay at featherweight and still kick his ***!!!
mmablaster said:
Cutting weight isn't easy. Alistair Overeem fights better at HW than he does 205. I still can't believe he dominated Badr Hari in K-1 rules.
*There was a rumor that Rory Markum messed himself up on his last weight cut.
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and I agree, cutting weight might not always be an advantage. Sometimes it can hurt the performance specially if you cut too much. Randy is another example he did dominate LHW for a little while but he is even better at HW even though he is a small HW.
 
Originally posted by: Smasher170
Date: March 08, 2009 at 05:22 AM
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Gordon said:
Grafik said:
that'd be awesome if brock lesner would cut to middleweight to fight anderson silva. that would be a WAR!!!!!
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:lol: :roll:
Lesnar cuts 20 lbs to make 265. There's NO WAY he could cut to even 205 let alone 185.
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I'm about 100% sure Grafik was joking
 
Originally posted by: vfrex
Date: March 08, 2009 at 09:27 AM
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I don't think that Lesnar weighed more than 275 come fight time.
 
Originally posted by: Rampage28
Date: March 08, 2009 at 10:42 AM
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Grafik said:
that'd be awesome if brock lesner would cut to middleweight to fight anderson silva. that would be a WAR!!!!!
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thats ridiculous to say. lesnar cuts to get under the heavyweight limit and theres no way he'd be able to cut to middleweight.
 
Originally posted by: 00ireland99
Date: March 08, 2009 at 03:20 PM
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Rampage28 said:
Grafik said:
that'd be awesome if brock lesner would cut to middleweight to fight anderson silva. that would be a WAR!!!!!
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thats ridiculous to say. lesnar cuts to get under the heavyweight limit and theres no way he'd be able to cut to middleweight.
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he's not being serious :lol: :lol:
 
Originally posted by: chocolove
Date: March 08, 2009 at 03:51 PM
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GSP to 185 would be awesome. A GSP/Silva superfight would be the most awesome fight in MMA history. I know the guy is in the twilight of his career but if he can make it I'd like to see Matt hughes try to get to 155, fight BJ Penn at BJ's natural weight. I know Matt is thinking of actually moving up but hes just gonna get torn apart there.
 
Originally posted by: cool14
Date: March 08, 2009 at 08:58 PM
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chocolove said:
GSP to 185 would be awesome. A GSP/Silva superfight would be the most awesome fight in MMA history. I know the guy is in the twilight of his career but if he can make it I'd like to see Matt hughes try to get to 155, fight BJ Penn at BJ's natural weight. I know Matt is thinking of actually moving up but hes just gonna get torn apart there.
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But can matt hughes make the cut to 155, i am not sure, he looks to big.
 
Originally posted by: cool14
Date: March 08, 2009 at 09:00 PM
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Fedor is a small HW and can make the cut to 205 but why should he , he can beat everyone in the HW division.
 
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