Former coach: Why I left Rousey’s camp

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Originally posted by: CardioKing
Date: December 30, 2016 at 09:21 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/former-coach-why-i-left-rousey%E2%80%99s-camp.70477/

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/former-coach-why-i-left-rouseys-camp
by Kirik Jenness
Friday, December 30, 2016
Elias Cepeda noted that MMA writers lamenting Ronda Rousey’s media blackout were forgetting their jobs, and that it is possible to do excellent work without ever once speaking to the principal figure. Cepeda was right, and Jonathan Snowden did a tremendous piece for B/R on Rousey, interiewing and excerpting the people around her.
Snowden noted that Rousey followed her mother into Judo, but while Dr. AnnMaria DeMars became the first American to win a gold medal, Rousey managed a bronze in the Olympics, and thereafter found herself working as a bartender, and living in her car for a time. Rousey developed a perverse respect for her coach, Edmond Tarverdyan, who guided her into developing her boxing skills, something Rousey could feel was all her own. Tarverdyan convinced Rousey her boxing skills were world class. For that and much more, Tarverdyan is regarded by the hardcore fanbase as occupying a space in the sport somewhere between ringworm and a staph.
Unfortunately, when she ran into an actual world-class boxer in Holly Holm, Tarverdyan’s coaching nowhere referenced the world-class grappler taking the fight to the mat. Instead Tarverdyan offered Rousey further frenzied boxing advice. It failed. Then in Holm’s first title defense, the BJJ blue belt lost on the ground with 90 seconds left in a fight she was winning handily.
Snowden spoke with Rousey’s former strength and performance coach Leo Frincu, who is not impressed with Tarverdyan.
“The loss to Holly Holm validated something she felt deeply,” said Frincu. “That she wasn’t good enough, that something was fundamentally wrong with her.”
“I bet she felt like a fraud. Or even more, the way she lost to Holm, Ronda probably felt like she can never escape her past, can never feel good about herself. Boxing, or her new and better self, let her down that night. That explains her suicidal thoughts and the reason she collapsed emotionally.”
It is a pretty lonely life being Ronda Rousey.”
Frincu believes Tarverdyan’s initial disdain for the eager, female, MMA neophyte Rousey helped cement the relationship.
“He may not even know he does it,” said Frincu. “Maybe it’s cultural. Maybe that’s who he is and that’s how he treats women. It just happens that the worst thing that could happen to her is pairing up with that guy.
“She associates guilt and emotional blackmail and all this poison with love. That is love to her. To show anything different than that—to show respect, to treat her like a professional and a human being—that’s foreign to her.”
Frincu says the relationship with Tarverdyan is tumultuous, with Rousey at times texting or calling dozens of times in an hour.
Rousey believes that Tarverdyan drives her to emotional lengths in a way that mimics the pressure of a fight, and leaves her better prepared as a fighter. Others attribute the apparent machinations to simple incompetence.
Frincu said the filming of The Ultimate Fighter in 2013 was more than he could contenance. Rousey was stressed to the point her hair was falling out.
“The way he talked to her—wow, what I witnessed,” said Frincu. “The way he talked to everybody, going on these rants. Cursing about how terrible she is. I didn’t feel physically safe. I’m a guy who can take care of himself, but I felt uncomfortable. The next morning I took a plane and I left.”
“It’s almost like there’s not a real world around her. Nobody keeps it real. It’s almost like a self-destructive organism.”
“It’s all emotional. There’s no logic in that camp. And that makes it very unstable. It’s like walking on eggshells. It’s terrible. It’s so stressful to be in that camp. It’s supposed to be hard work. But it has to be rational. There has to be a plan. Everything there is rage and anger.”
Rousey’s motto for this camp is “F*** them all.”
 
Originally posted by: smartigan
Date: December 30, 2016 at 09:47 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/former-coach-why-i-left-rousey%E2%80%99s-camp.70477/

Lol at the last line
Great insight to something everyone knows already. Ed is a c---. Ronda should have left a long time ago
 
Originally posted by: MysterLynch
Date: December 30, 2016 at 10:16 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/former-coach-why-i-left-rousey%E2%80%99s-camp.70477/

I have no problem with the guy talking about the camp and why he left, but him analyzing Ronda, her relationships and whatnot feels like the crossing of a line. If I were a fighter, I would never trust this guy, if things went south, he seems to have no problem sharing personal things.
Edmund is a clown, but this guy sounds like a weasel.
 
Originally posted by: CardioKing
Date: December 31, 2016 at 01:27 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/former-coach-why-i-left-rousey%E2%80%99s-camp.70477/

Bump, because this so relevant right now.
 
Originally posted by: kirza82
Date: December 31, 2016 at 02:01 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/former-coach-why-i-left-rousey%E2%80%99s-camp.70477/

Does anyone know who was in that ultimate B Team Corner for Rousey?!? Are they all just yes men? Feeding Ronda's Ego
 
Originally posted by: BadassCoffee
Date: December 31, 2016 at 02:03 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/former-coach-why-i-left-rousey%E2%80%99s-camp.70477/

MysterLynch said:
I have no problem with the guy talking about the camp and why he left, but him analyzing Ronda, her relationships and whatnot feels like the crossing of a line. If I were a fighter, I would never trust this guy, if things went south, he seems to have no problem sharing personal things.
Edmund is a clown, but this guy sounds like a weasel.
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He's to Ronda what George Karl is to the guys he coached. Edmund does deserve a huge part of the blame though for those terrible f---in gameplans.
 
Originally posted by: CardioKing
Date: December 31, 2016 at 02:14 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/former-coach-why-i-left-rousey%E2%80%99s-camp.70477/

kirza82 said:
Does anyone know who was in that ultimate B Team Corner for Rousey?!? Are they all just yes men? Feeding Ronda's Ego
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If this is accurate, it sounds like everyone is there is play along.
 
Originally posted by: kirza82
Date: December 31, 2016 at 02:44 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/former-coach-why-i-left-rousey%E2%80%99s-camp.70477/

BadassCoffee said:
He's to Ronda what George Karl is to the guys he coached. Edmund does deserve a huge part of the blame though for those terrible f---in gameplans.
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What was tonights lmfao!?!
 
Originally posted by: BadassCoffee
Date: December 31, 2016 at 03:01 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/former-coach-why-i-left-rousey%E2%80%99s-camp.70477/

kirza82 said:
What was tonights lmfao!?!
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Probably tire Nunes out by taking punches to the head
 
Originally posted by: iguchi
Date: December 31, 2016 at 03:29 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/former-coach-why-i-left-rousey%E2%80%99s-camp.70477/

She isn't surrounded by smart people. How different could it have been if she was at Jacks-Wink?
Tristar?
TAM?
ATT?
 
Originally posted by: anotherusername
Date: December 31, 2016 at 03:34 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/former-coach-why-i-left-rousey%E2%80%99s-camp.70477/

iguchi said:
She isn't surrounded by smart people. How different could it have been if she was at Jacks-Wink?
Tristar?
TAM?
ATT?
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Very, very different. Take Tristar, for example. Can you imagine how unstoppable she would have been if GSP had trained her on wrestling and shooting for takedowns? She would have been the Nurmagomedov of WMMA, with armbars.
 
Originally posted by: CardioKing
Date: December 31, 2016 at 11:08 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/former-coach-why-i-left-rousey%E2%80%99s-camp.70477/

New coach. ASAP.
 
Originally posted by: wolf hunter
Date: December 31, 2016 at 11:14 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/former-coach-why-i-left-rousey%E2%80%99s-camp.70477/

It is a pretty lonely life being Ronda rousey?!!?!?!
 
Originally posted by: DrLeoMarvin
Date: December 31, 2016 at 11:41 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/former-coach-why-i-left-rousey%E2%80%99s-camp.70477/

BadassCoffee said:
Probably tire Nunes out by taking punches to the head
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Ah yes, the Homer Simpson strategy.
 
Originally posted by: Sunfish Hero
Date: December 31, 2016 at 12:03 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/former-coach-why-i-left-rousey%E2%80%99s-camp.70477/

MrMeeseeks said:
She seems like the type that has to be the center of the universe or it doesn't fly with her so I doubt she'd do well at any camp with her shitty attitude and not being surrounded by yes men
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Jackson/Wink has had a pretty decent track record with dealing with people with massive egos (Jones, Overeem). I think Rousey would have done fantastically at Jackson/Wink.
 
Originally posted by: Baron Anthès
Date: December 31, 2016 at 12:10 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/former-coach-why-i-left-rousey%E2%80%99s-camp.70477/

MrMeeseeks said:
She seems like the type that has to be the center of the universe or it doesn't fly with her so I doubt she'd do well at any camp with her shitty attitude and not being surrounded by yes men
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The article doesn't make it sound like she's surrounded by yes men though.
 
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