Frank Thinks Ken Cut Himself On Purpose Before Kimbo Fight

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: wolf
Date: March 04, 2009 at 04:36 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/frank-thinks-ken-cut-himself-on-purpose-before-kimbo-fight.11188/

FiveOuncesOfPain: You just alluded to some of the trust that Ken has burned. When Ken showed up to the arena with that cut there was a lot of speculation as to how he truly sustained the laceration. Do you believe that Ken truly injured himself rolling that morning?
Frank Shamrock: No. I think Ken cut himself.
FiveOuncesOfPain: What would Ken’s potential motive be for allegedly cutting himself?
Frank Shamrock: It goes back to his giant ego and not being smart enough to understand the rest of the business. I think he got upset because Kimbo was making twice as much as he was and I don’t think his ego could take it. I know for a fact that he tried to hold the network up for more money the day before the show and unfortunately his parting words were, “Well, then you never know what will happen because anything can happen.” Then when he showed up with the cut we all thought he juiced himself. You know, he’s not to be trusted.
FiveOuncesOfPain: For Ken to go right to the emergency room and have it stitched up, is that normally how a fighter would handle the situation? Especially with a six-figure pay day at stake?
Frank Shamrock: No. No, a real fighter would have superglued it and put makeup on it and would have been out there fighting. Which (is something) I have done and many fighters have done many times.
FiveOuncesOfPain: You obviously know Ken better than most people. Just the theory that Ken might have cut himself — how is he in a position to walk away from a potential six-figure payoff? How could he have done that?
Frank Shamrock: I have no idea (laughs). It’s a mystery to me. I don’t know Ken very well. I was to assume he would have went out and fought but I have no idea what he’s doing. I just hope when he’s finished destroying himself that he has something left to live by.
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WWWWooooooowwwwww

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ACOGSCOPE
Date: March 04, 2009 at 04:38 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/frank-thinks-ken-cut-himself-on-purpose-before-kimbo-fight.11188/

Frank is delusional
How bout that Jak!

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: SheerTerror
Date: March 04, 2009 at 04:39 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/frank-thinks-ken-cut-himself-on-purpose-before-kimbo-fight.11188/

I call BS on Frankie

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: wolf
Date: March 04, 2009 at 04:40 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/frank-thinks-ken-cut-himself-on-purpose-before-kimbo-fight.11188/

ACOGSCOPE said:
Frank is delusional
How bout that Jak!
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HAHA, FITCH is delusional too! :lol:

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MMAStudent
Date: March 04, 2009 at 04:40 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/frank-thinks-ken-cut-himself-on-purpose-before-kimbo-fight.11188/

This is possible.. is there anyone out there who wasn't thinking this exact same thing the day of the fight? I think frank even hinted at it.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ACOGSCOPE
Date: March 04, 2009 at 04:41 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/frank-thinks-ken-cut-himself-on-purpose-before-kimbo-fight.11188/

wolf said:
ACOGSCOPE said:
Frank is delusional
How bout that Jak!
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HAHA, FITCH is delusional too! :lol:
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hahaha
I was hoping someone would pick up on that.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: 00ireland99
Date: March 04, 2009 at 04:45 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/frank-thinks-ken-cut-himself-on-purpose-before-kimbo-fight.11188/

Im sayin Frank's BS
Ken would smash him anyday :lol:

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Andre3000
Date: March 04, 2009 at 04:52 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/frank-thinks-ken-cut-himself-on-purpose-before-kimbo-fight.11188/

It's like there's a neverending battle between Frank and Ken to see who is the most unlikeable and low-class person in the family.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: mmablaster
Date: March 04, 2009 at 05:00 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/frank-thinks-ken-cut-himself-on-purpose-before-kimbo-fight.11188/

Frank says things for publicity, he has done it quite often. I don't think Ken purposely cut himself, if he did that was pretty dumb because he could have beat Kimbo.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: LucrativeMath
Date: March 04, 2009 at 05:18 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/frank-thinks-ken-cut-himself-on-purpose-before-kimbo-fight.11188/

Well, if good ol' Kenny did cut himself on purpose to get out of the Kimbo fight we can expect him to jump off a building or shoot himself shortly before his fight with Lashley.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: MMAStudent
Date: March 04, 2009 at 05:34 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/frank-thinks-ken-cut-himself-on-purpose-before-kimbo-fight.11188/

LucrativeMath said:
Well, if good ol' Kenny did cut himself on purpose to get out of the Kimbo fight we can expect him to jump off a building or shoot himself shortly before his fight with Lashley.
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hahaha.. well that doesn't make sense cause lashley isn't making millions for this fight.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Ace23
Date: March 04, 2009 at 05:40 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/frank-thinks-ken-cut-himself-on-purpose-before-kimbo-fight.11188/

x1java99 said:
Im sayin Frank's BS
Ken would smash him anyday :lol:
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I hope your laughing at the joke you stated before your LOL.
Ken couldnt beat Ryan Shamrock right now, let alone Frank.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: clockwerk
Date: March 04, 2009 at 05:50 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/frank-thinks-ken-cut-himself-on-purpose-before-kimbo-fight.11188/

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Ken cut himself on purpose because it was a blade job. It was supposed to get busted open from a Kimbo punch then the ref steps in and stops it because of the cut (a la thompsons ear, because lord knows it was pointelss to drain that thing right?). Then the announcers go off about Kimbo's incredible punching power busting open a legend like that and the casuals are happy that they got to see blood.
It was intentional, but it was a work, and I'll bet dollars to doughnuts Frank knows that damn well.
Yes this is my speculation, but it doesn't take watching a lot of Kimbo fights to figure something's up.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: wolf
Date: March 04, 2009 at 07:05 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/frank-thinks-ken-cut-himself-on-purpose-before-kimbo-fight.11188/

clockwerk said:
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Ken cut himself on purpose because it was a blade job. It was supposed to get busted open from a Kimbo punch then the ref steps in and stops it because of the cut (a la thompsons ear, because lord knows it was pointelss to drain that thing right?). Then the announcers go off about Kimbo's incredible punching power busting open a legend like that and the casuals are happy that they got to see blood.
It was intentional, but it was a work, and I'll bet dollars to doughnuts Frank knows that damn well.
Yes this is my speculation, but it doesn't take watching a lot of Kimbo fights to figure something's up.
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A Blade job eh? I've never heard of that before, but it makes sense. But I just don't get this. It doesn't make sense to me. Ken was supposedly upset because he was making half the money Kimbo was right? So why would he back out and not make any money at all? That's more even more sense!!?!?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: clockwerk
Date: March 04, 2009 at 10:30 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/frank-thinks-ken-cut-himself-on-purpose-before-kimbo-fight.11188/

wolf said:
clockwerk said:
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Ken cut himself on purpose because it was a blade job. It was supposed to get busted open from a Kimbo punch then the ref steps in and stops it because of the cut (a la thompsons ear, because lord knows it was pointelss to drain that thing right?). Then the announcers go off about Kimbo's incredible punching power busting open a legend like that and the casuals are happy that they got to see blood.
It was intentional, but it was a work, and I'll bet dollars to doughnuts Frank knows that damn well.
Yes this is my speculation, but it doesn't take watching a lot of Kimbo fights to figure something's up.
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A Blade job eh? I've never heard of that before, but it makes sense. But I just don't get this. It doesn't make sense to me. Ken was supposedly upset because he was making half the money Kimbo was right? So why would he back out and not make any money at all? That's more even more sense!!?!?
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Well, that would be a reasonable cover story considering they have to explain why he didn't go on. I mean, he could've claimed a lot of things without having to cut himself. I mean, I know I'm stepping into tinfoil hat territory here, but his matched are SO suspect when you watch them. The Cantwell fight just can't be real. One shot from inside the clinch and he drops and starts tapping? Come on. Are we to believe Kimbo is THAT strong?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: ShadyCambo
Date: March 05, 2009 at 01:09 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/frank-thinks-ken-cut-himself-on-purpose-before-kimbo-fight.11188/

wolf said:
clockwerk said:
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Ken cut himself on purpose because it was a blade job. It was supposed to get busted open from a Kimbo punch then the ref steps in and stops it because of the cut (a la thompsons ear, because lord knows it was pointelss to drain that thing right?). Then the announcers go off about Kimbo's incredible punching power busting open a legend like that and the casuals are happy that they got to see blood.
It was intentional, but it was a work, and I'll bet dollars to doughnuts Frank knows that damn well.
Yes this is my speculation, but it doesn't take watching a lot of Kimbo fights to figure something's up.
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A Blade job eh? I've never heard of that before, but it makes sense. But I just don't get this. It doesn't make sense to me. Ken was supposedly upset because he was making half the money Kimbo was right? So why would he back out and not make any money at all? That's more even more sense!!?!?
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As a former pro-wrestler on the Indy scene I can tell you with utmost confidence that was not a "blade job." Quick defintion, blade job is to pro-wrestling trick that where one guy is slipped a razor and cuts his head to bleed for the show. It's a very common practice in pro-wrestling, but there is also a certain technique to it. First off, you cut your forehead, because the skull is strong and and head contains a lot of blood, so it will look worse than actually is. It's the gushing look they are going for. Secondly and most importantly, you do not want to cut yourself anywhere near the eye. It's much too dangerous and the desired effect isn't there.
I've done the blade job scene many times, I still have scars from it, but there's a technique to it, and Ken woulda known how to blade himself better from his WWE days.
And yes it makes no sense to make zero dollars, and lose out a nationally televised event. He probably also lost sponsor money, no banner, no logo on the shorts= companies don't have to pay.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: March 05, 2009 at 01:14 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/frank-thinks-ken-cut-himself-on-purpose-before-kimbo-fight.11188/

ACOGSCOPE said:
Frank is delusional
How bout that Jak!
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:lol: ... wait... what? :?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: osubuckeye4
Date: March 05, 2009 at 01:27 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/frank-thinks-ken-cut-himself-on-purpose-before-kimbo-fight.11188/

I think both Shamrocks need to just shut the hell up for a couple years.
Ken used to be one of my favorite fighters, it's been so sad to witness the absolute nosedive his career has taken since his little feud with Tito Ortiz.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: clockwerk
Date: March 05, 2009 at 03:07 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/frank-thinks-ken-cut-himself-on-purpose-before-kimbo-fight.11188/

ShadyCambo said:
wolf said:
clockwerk said:
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Ken cut himself on purpose because it was a blade job. It was supposed to get busted open from a Kimbo punch then the ref steps in and stops it because of the cut (a la thompsons ear, because lord knows it was pointelss to drain that thing right?). Then the announcers go off about Kimbo's incredible punching power busting open a legend like that and the casuals are happy that they got to see blood.
It was intentional, but it was a work, and I'll bet dollars to doughnuts Frank knows that damn well.
Yes this is my speculation, but it doesn't take watching a lot of Kimbo fights to figure something's up.
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A Blade job eh? I've never heard of that before, but it makes sense. But I just don't get this. It doesn't make sense to me. Ken was supposedly upset because he was making half the money Kimbo was right? So why would he back out and not make any money at all? That's more even more sense!!?!?
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As a former pro-wrestler on the Indy scene I can tell you with utmost confidence that was not a "blade job." Quick defintion, blade job is to pro-wrestling trick that where one guy is slipped a razor and cuts his head to bleed for the show. It's a very common practice in pro-wrestling, but there is also a certain technique to it. First off, you cut your forehead, because the skull is strong and and head contains a lot of blood, so it will look worse than actually is. It's the gushing look they are going for. Secondly and most importantly, you do not want to cut yourself anywhere near the eye. It's much too dangerous and the desired effect isn't there.
I've done the blade job scene many times, I still have scars from it, but there's a technique to it, and Ken woulda known how to blade himself better from his WWE days.
And yes it makes no sense to make zero dollars, and lose out a nationally televised event. He probably also lost sponsor money, no banner, no logo on the shorts= companies don't have to pay.
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You sure about that? I know it wasn't a blade job in the traditional sense (cut myself, you smack cut with chair, I bleed like stuck pig, all hail Ric Flair). However, it's possible they were setting him up to get a bad cut and it went wrong. I mean, you CAN screw up a blade job right? Cut too deep, etc. Have any of us seen this cut? I just don't see why he wouldn't fight and make money. It makes no sense. Besides, I think he would've beat Kimbo badly (cause we know how wicked awesome Kimbo's sub defense is). Let's remember he wouldn't be blading for the same purpose as a pro wrestler.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: itadakimasu
Date: March 05, 2009 at 04:16 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/frank-thinks-ken-cut-himself-on-purpose-before-kimbo-fight.11188/

I think its on Ken...I think he would have got laid out fast by kimbo and I think he knew that.
The part about him being mad about how much kimbo was making, and how he tried to hit them up for more money the day before I've read a couple of different places... but taking no money over taking whatever he was going to get for the fight, while stupid, i dont think is beyond ken.
i think he's got some money put away, although that fight was probably going to pay more than his next 5 fights combined. IDK.
I'm on franks side w\ this though.