Gegard vs Babalu 4 Wamma lhw title

Originally posted by: grapplethis
Date: June 28, 2009 at 03:33 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/gegard-vs-babalu-4-wamma-lhw-title.14855/

mike you will learn very quickly that arguing with NPD is not worth your time.
 
Originally posted by: Smasher170
Date: June 28, 2009 at 03:45 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/gegard-vs-babalu-4-wamma-lhw-title.14855/

metalmike00 said:
i think you mean light heavys. and sobral isnt even ranked in the top 10. the dean of mean could beat both imo. wandy could probably take them too
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:lol: :lol: You're insane in the membrane if you think Dean and Wandy could take Gegard. Babablu would take Wandy now no question either, it hurts to say, but it's over for the dude. Babalu vs Keith would be a good fight though.
 
Originally posted by: grapplethis
Date: June 28, 2009 at 03:45 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/gegard-vs-babalu-4-wamma-lhw-title.14855/

where is your membrane?
 
Originally posted by: PayaamElixir
Date: June 28, 2009 at 04:00 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/gegard-vs-babalu-4-wamma-lhw-title.14855/

Babalu has been and still is one of the best lightheavies in the world, I think he even went to a decision with Fedor and beat a young Shogun.
The punch he got hit with against Lambert would ktfo pretty much anyone, and Babalu has very underated standup and I think the best jits at lhw in all of the world, that being said, I think Gegard will beat him, Gegard is 24-2 and the 2 losses where early in his career, and hes still only 25, and if he fought those guys again he would beat them. Gegard has no holes in his game, only strengths everywhere.
 
Originally posted by: grapplethis
Date: June 28, 2009 at 04:01 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/gegard-vs-babalu-4-wamma-lhw-title.14855/

^that fedor fight was under RINGS rules, which means no strikes to the head on the ground.
 
Originally posted by: PayaamElixir
Date: June 28, 2009 at 04:03 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/gegard-vs-babalu-4-wamma-lhw-title.14855/

still was an impressive performance.
 
Originally posted by: grapplethis
Date: June 28, 2009 at 04:04 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/gegard-vs-babalu-4-wamma-lhw-title.14855/

NarlyPersianDude said:
still was an impressive performance.
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for sure. but if you take away Fedor's GNP...well that's like telling Anderson Silva he can't strike, or telling Maia that he HAS to strike
 
Originally posted by: Smasher170
Date: June 28, 2009 at 04:05 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/gegard-vs-babalu-4-wamma-lhw-title.14855/

NarlyPersianDude said:
Gegard has no holes in his game, only strengths everywhere.
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Exactamundo!
 
Originally posted by: grapplethis
Date: June 28, 2009 at 04:07 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/gegard-vs-babalu-4-wamma-lhw-title.14855/

Smasher170 said:
NarlyPersianDude said:
Gegard has no holes in his game, only strengths everywhere.
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Exactamundo!
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wrestling. denis kang took him down. nuff said.
and i think his submission game is relatively untested. most of his submissions, while impressive, are against guys that are not very good at grappling. this babalu fight will tell us a lot about where his grappling actually is.
 
Originally posted by: PayaamElixir
Date: June 28, 2009 at 04:14 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/gegard-vs-babalu-4-wamma-lhw-title.14855/

grapplethis said:
Smasher170 said:
NarlyPersianDude said:
Gegard has no holes in his game, only strengths everywhere.
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Exactamundo!
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wrestling. denis kang took him down. nuff said.
and i think his submission game is relatively untested. most of his submissions, while impressive, are against guys that are not very good at grappling. this babalu fight will tell us a lot about where his grappling actually is.
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So what Denis took him, who won the fight?
And that was a year and half ago, some people dont improve, but this dude improves every fight I see of him. Its like people saying Anderson does not have good wrestling cause Lutter took him down, which makes no sense, cause what is position if you cant do anything with it, Lutter got his kicked from Anderson under him, which shows to me good wrestling. And good skills. Gegard beat him with an arm bar that fight, so whatever Kang did by taking him down did not seem relevant cause Gegard beat him with a ground move. Maybe if Gegard knocked him out you could say that, but he armbarred him. This is not a wrestling match its mma, Matt Hughes took Serra down, but Serra kicked his *** that fight. Being a blanket should not be a strong trait in mma. Now Fedor when he takes someone down, he knows what to do with it. FeelMe.
 
Originally posted by: grapplethis
Date: June 28, 2009 at 04:16 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/gegard-vs-babalu-4-wamma-lhw-title.14855/

anderson doesn't have good wrestling, and neither does mousasi. i'm not saying he's a bad fighter. i'm just saying his grappling, for my money, is unproven. he'll get a chance to do so against babalu.
 
Originally posted by: Hallogran
Date: June 28, 2009 at 06:09 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/gegard-vs-babalu-4-wamma-lhw-title.14855/

I will say that I didn't think about the fact that this is Gegards first lhw fight, but I figured maybe some of the people here wouldn't be ufc nuthuggers. I figured maybe some people here would at least have respect for what wamma is trying to accomplish. They're both great fighters, and this should be a great fight. Also I think they both are more talented than alot of ufc's lhw's.
 
Originally posted by: Jak
Date: June 28, 2009 at 06:12 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/gegard-vs-babalu-4-wamma-lhw-title.14855/

Hallogran said:
I figured maybe some people here would at least
have respect
for what wamma is trying to accomplish.
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Nope.
 
Originally posted by: Project86
Date: June 28, 2009 at 07:08 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/gegard-vs-babalu-4-wamma-lhw-title.14855/

gegard may not have good to great wrestling but he is good off his back so it is irrelevant
 
Originally posted by: bjj_rage
Date: June 28, 2009 at 07:13 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/gegard-vs-babalu-4-wamma-lhw-title.14855/

Hallogran said:
I will say that I didn't think about the fact that this is Gegards first lhw fight, but I figured maybe some of the people here wouldn't be ufc ---(fans)---. I figured maybe some people here would at least have respect for what wamma is trying to accomplish. They're both great fighters, and this should be a great fight. Also I think they both are more talented than alot of ufc's lhw's.
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man, the junkie is full with UFC fan boys...
And it doesnt matter if it is for the wamma Title or what title it is, this fight is sick! and Gerard probably will make top 5 in the UFC... though we still to see how he does at LHW, it will be his first fight at this weight...
 
Originally posted by: grapplethis
Date: June 28, 2009 at 07:39 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/gegard-vs-babalu-4-wamma-lhw-title.14855/

Project86 said:
gegard may not have good to great wrestling but he is good off his back so it is irrelevant
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like i said, he's untested. wow, submitting melvin mahoef=you can hang with babalu on the mat? ahahahah come on dog.
and denis kang jumed into a triangle with one arm out being like "i feel like getting choked out"
mark hunt? seriously.
i think gegard is good, but an unproven grappler. he may look good off his back against melvin mahoef, but we're talking about a very decorated BJJ black belt with more size and more experience. but gegard is a good bet, since he's such a heavy underdog. i'm a fan too, but don't act like he's a proven grappler.
 
Originally posted by: bigskinny22
Date: June 28, 2009 at 07:51 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/gegard-vs-babalu-4-wamma-lhw-title.14855/

NarlyPersianDude said:
metalmike00 said:
NarlyPersianDude said:
who cares if its for a wamma title or that if it is not, ability wise, these are 2 slam dunk top 10 heavyweights going at it, what I dont like is its 2 of my favorite fighters in a match, which I always hate. But its a very relevant fight, and the winner will be the 5th best lhw ranking wise, to me.
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i think you mean light heavys. and sobral isnt even ranked in the top 10. the dean of mean could beat both imo. wandy could probably take them too
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I dont care what an official ranking says, their is no f**king way your telling me Babalu is not a top 10 lhw, I have him at 7.
And to the person who said Wandy could take him, no, at the moment Wandy probably gets finished in the first round. Have you seen Wandy the last 2 years, and I think Babalu is a much better fighter than Jardine, but its all one person's word against another.
Outside of a in his prime Chuck, Babalu has kicked everybody's *** he has fought the last few years
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Jason Lambert begs to differ
 
Originally posted by: RearNakedSlam
Date: June 28, 2009 at 08:01 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/gegard-vs-babalu-4-wamma-lhw-title.14855/

bigskinny22 said:
NarlyPersianDude said:
I dont care what an official ranking says, their is no f**king way your telling me Babalu is not a top 10 lhw, I have him at 7.
And to the person who said Wandy could take him, no, at the moment Wandy probably gets finished in the first round. Have you seen Wandy the last 2 years, and I think Babalu is a much better fighter than Jardine, but its all one person's word against another.
Outside of a in his prime Chuck, Babalu has kicked everybody's *** he has fought the last few years
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Jason Lambert begs to differ
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Not to mention everyone other than Chuck that he fought wasn't in the top 10, most weren't even top 20.
 
Originally posted by: metalmike00
Date: June 28, 2009 at 08:38 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/gegard-vs-babalu-4-wamma-lhw-title.14855/

grapplethis said:
mike you will learn very quickly that arguing with NPD is not worth your time.
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i can see that and from previous posts ive read.
 
Originally posted by: bigskinny22
Date: June 28, 2009 at 09:03 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/gegard-vs-babalu-4-wamma-lhw-title.14855/

metalmike00 said:
grapplethis said:
mike you will learn very quickly that arguing with NPD is not worth your time.
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i can see that and from previous posts ive read.
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but its a great way to pad your post count
 
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