Originally posted by: JonnyRico Date: July 20, 2017 at 10:35 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/germaine-de-randamie-vs-marion-reneau-set-for-ufc-rotterdam.71426/
Originally posted by: TheRedbeltReport Date: July 20, 2017 at 11:20 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/germaine-de-randamie-vs-marion-reneau-set-for-ufc-rotterdam.71426/
Originally posted by: cmvideo75 Date: July 20, 2017 at 11:26 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/germaine-de-randamie-vs-marion-reneau-set-for-ufc-rotterdam.71426/
TheRedbeltReport said:
Nice a championship fight on a Fight Night card! Oh how the mighty have fallen...
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She was stripped of that belt. Cyborg is fighting for that belt next week. (Unless I am missing some sarcasm here)
Originally posted by: cmvideo75 Date: July 20, 2017 at 11:27 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/germaine-de-randamie-vs-marion-reneau-set-for-ufc-rotterdam.71426/
Originally posted by: TheRedbeltReport Date: July 20, 2017 at 11:34 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/germaine-de-randamie-vs-marion-reneau-set-for-ufc-rotterdam.71426/
cmvideo75 said:
She was stripped of that belt. Cyborg is fighting for that belt next week. (Unless I am missing some sarcasm here)
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Never lost son! No, yeah major sarcasm. She's an idiot.
Originally posted by: callithowyouseeit Date: July 20, 2017 at 11:45 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/germaine-de-randamie-vs-marion-reneau-set-for-ufc-rotterdam.71426/
De Randamie knew with certainty that she would lose to Cyborg. She took the "High Road" and refused to fight, citing moral reasons. She wanted a rematch with Holm, then wanted to take on lesser contenders.... all the while refusing to fight the most dominate female combatant on the planet.
I used to be a big fan, but it's hard to stand behind her after refusing to defend her belt against the no-brainer, most deserving contender in any division, ever.
Originally posted by: JonnyRico Date: July 20, 2017 at 11:47 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/germaine-de-randamie-vs-marion-reneau-set-for-ufc-rotterdam.71426/
callithowyouseeit said:
I don't often through around the term, "scared", when it comes to fighters..... But if it walks like a duck....
De Randamie knew with certainty that she would lose to Cyborg. She took the "High Road" and refused to fight, citing moral reasons. She wanted a rematch with Holm, then wanted to take on lesser contenders.... all the while refusing to fight the most dominate female combatant on the planet.
I used to be a big fan, but it's hard to stand behind her after refusing to defend her belt against the no-brainer, most deserving contender in any division, ever.
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She was making excuses literally since her post fight interview. Saying she needed to fix her hand and whatnot. It was one thing after the other with her.
Originally posted by: Tum Tum Date: July 20, 2017 at 11:48 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/germaine-de-randamie-vs-marion-reneau-set-for-ufc-rotterdam.71426/
I know in a previous post I said I don't want to say a fighter is ducking another fighter but this here looks like a duck. Somehow her hand and all of GDR's issues got squared away to fight less than 2 months after Cyborg fights. That being said why Reneau? Nothing against Reneau but shouldn't a former champion be fighting someone like Pena, Pennington or Zingano (people who are higher in the rankings)?
Originally posted by: JonnyRico Date: July 20, 2017 at 12:03 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/germaine-de-randamie-vs-marion-reneau-set-for-ufc-rotterdam.71426/
Tum Tum said:
I know in a previous post I said I don't want to say a fighter is ducking another fighter but this here looks like a duck. Somehow her hand and all of GDR's issues got squared away to fight less than 2 months after Cyborg fights. That being said why Reneau? Nothing against Reneau but shouldn't a former champion be fighting someone like Pena, Pennington or Zingano (people who are higher in the rankings)?
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She was never that high up in BW...they're treating her no differently.
Originally posted by: brian04280 Date: July 20, 2017 at 01:06 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/germaine-de-randamie-vs-marion-reneau-set-for-ufc-rotterdam.71426/
Basically ignoring her one fight at 145, not that I blame them. Had she said I've got to get healed up but will fight in September, no problem. She knew the winner was getting Cyborg, so the whole "I don't fight people who've done steroids" is bunk.
So yeah, they're just kind of pretending it didn't happen.
Originally posted by: Neonep Date: July 20, 2017 at 01:20 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/germaine-de-randamie-vs-marion-reneau-set-for-ufc-rotterdam.71426/
People are going to s--- on her and for good reason. The hardest instance of ducking I've ever seen in MMA. I hope she loses this fight and her next few and gets cut.
Originally posted by: NicoSuave Date: July 20, 2017 at 06:19 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/germaine-de-randamie-vs-marion-reneau-set-for-ufc-rotterdam.71426/
I'm not one who likes to question a fighter's courage either. Their intelligence, maybe, but not their courage. And sometimes, intelligence and courage get in the way of one another.
When Forrest Griffin lost to Anderson Silva, he said on the record (I'm paraphrasing) "Never again." That was when Anderson was still viewed in the eyes of the public as an unstoppable monster. Cyborg is rightfully viewed in that same light now, and I think Germaine decided, "I don't want my brain turned into scrambled eggs. I'm gonna take the heat from the public and make the decision that's best for my longterm health."
In a way, it's a double-edged sword. On one edge, we missed out on a fight between two talented strikers, and the former champ now has a damaged reputation. On the other edge, Tonya f---in' Evinger stepped up to the plate, and now we at least have a championship fight scheduled in which both women are going to leave it all out there.
Originally posted by: callithowyouseeit Date: July 20, 2017 at 08:34 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/germaine-de-randamie-vs-marion-reneau-set-for-ufc-rotterdam.71426/
NicoSuave said:
I'm not one who likes to question a fighter's courage either. Their intelligence, maybe, but not their courage. And sometimes, intelligence and courage get in the way of one another.
When Forrest Griffin lost to Anderson Silva, he said on the record (I'm paraphrasing) "Never again." That was when Anderson was still viewed in the eyes of the public as an unstoppable monster. Cyborg is rightfully viewed in that same light now, and I think Germaine decided, "I don't want my brain turned into scrambled eggs. I'm gonna take the heat from the public and make the decision that's best for my longterm health."
In a way, it's a double-edged sword. On one edge, we missed out on a fight between two talented strikers, and the former champ now has a damaged reputation. On the other edge, Tonya f---in' Evinger stepped up to the plate, and now we at least have a championship fight scheduled in which both women are going to leave it all out there.
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It takes courage to get in to the octagon. It takes giant woman balls o' steel to get in the octagon with Cyborg.
Originally posted by: Holmesy865 Date: July 21, 2017 at 02:48 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/germaine-de-randamie-vs-marion-reneau-set-for-ufc-rotterdam.71426/
For me there is no denying GDR has ducked Cyborg. She was willing to give up the title before fighting her, based on the excuse of her previous drug tests. I also believe the UFC doesn't help matters by paying peanuts. If they paid their fighters (especially champions) an amount they couldn't refuse, I'm sure she would have looked past the roid usage as the risk would match the reward. I imagine her pay for this fight isn't too different to what she would have earned being blasted by Cyborg.
Originally posted by: BadassCoffee Date: July 21, 2017 at 02:59 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/germaine-de-randamie-vs-marion-reneau-set-for-ufc-rotterdam.71426/
Originally posted by: CardioKing Date: July 22, 2017 at 06:21 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/germaine-de-randamie-vs-marion-reneau-set-for-ufc-rotterdam.71426/
BadassCoffee said:
Even Ronda ducked cyborg
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Ronda wasn't obligated to fight Cyborg. They were in different weight classes. Not the same.
Germaine knowingly fought in a division built for Cyborg, then lied about an injury, then finally said she refused to fight Cyborg. This was a very cowardly money grab AND duck.
Originally posted by: BadassCoffee Date: July 22, 2017 at 06:23 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/germaine-de-randamie-vs-marion-reneau-set-for-ufc-rotterdam.71426/
CardioKing said:
Ronda wasn't obligated to fight Cyborg. They were in different weight classes. Not the same.
Germaine knowingly fought in a division built for Cyborg, then lied about an injury, then finally said she refused to fight Cyborg. This was a very cowardly money grab AND duck.
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You never heard of the strike force situation? Ronda was a 145er till she had to fight cyborg then she got down to 135 real quick. Her entire career, including judo, she fought way above 135. Until cyborg
Originally posted by: Neonep Date: July 22, 2017 at 06:44 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/germaine-de-randamie-vs-marion-reneau-set-for-ufc-rotterdam.71426/
BadassCoffee said:
You never heard of the strike force situation? Ronda was a 145er till she had to fight cyborg then she got down to 135 real quick. Her entire career, including judo, she fought way above 135. Until cyborg
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Yep.
Originally posted by: CardioKing Date: July 22, 2017 at 10:35 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/germaine-de-randamie-vs-marion-reneau-set-for-ufc-rotterdam.71426/
BadassCoffee said:
You never heard of the strike force situation? Ronda was a 145er till she had to fight cyborg then she got down to 135 real quick. Her entire career, including judo, she fought way above 135. Until cyborg
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I remember it clearly. I was following Ronda from the moment she entered MMA.
Originally posted by: BadassCoffee Date: July 24, 2017 at 11:56 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/germaine-de-randamie-vs-marion-reneau-set-for-ufc-rotterdam.71426/
CardioKing said:
I remember it clearly. I was following Ronda from the moment she entered MMA.
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I bet you were one of the people that thought Ronda could beat cyborg