Getting back to training hard

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: CopperHeart
Date: December 08, 2014 at 04:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/getting-back-to-training-hard.64791/

I had to stay away from my usual kickboxing classes for some time (I only hit a heavy bag and I'm 45, for the record).
I had been avoiding classes due a couple of times where my car was rear-ended (tweaking my back a bit), and more recently when I fell this summer and injured my left wrist (necessitating surgery).
This past weekend, I started my 1-hour classes again. Not surprisingly, I lost stamina, strength and flexibility. No problem. I expected that. I welcome the challenge.
My one problem right now is that my right triceps is aching since the weekend and I'm supposed to go to class again tonight. The muscles on the left arm are fine and much more relaxed by comparison. Should I just ignore it for now? It's not a horrible pain, just annoying. Or should I go the grandpa route and Bengay the hell out of my arm?
What's what best approach?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: osubuckeye4
Date: December 08, 2014 at 05:13 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/getting-back-to-training-hard.64791/

CopperHeart said:
My one problem right now is that my right triceps is aching since the weekend and I'm supposed to go to class again tonight. The muscles on the left arm are fine and much more relaxed by comparison. Should I just ignore it for now? It's not a horrible pain, just annoying. Or should I go the grandpa route and Bengay the hell out of my arm?
What's what best approach?
Click to expand...
Not that I'm a doctor, but, is it more of a low to mid-grade soreness? Or, is it an acute pain when you try to straighten out your arm/elbow? Are you even able to completely straighten your arm/elbow?
Also, is it swollen at all, or is there a bit of a lump or bump when you press against it? Or does it feel fine (though sore) to the touch?
If it's general soreness without any swelling, just ignore it/train through it, 90+% chance you're just fatigued. Maybe ease up on the intensity level for a few workouts, and work your way back up to what you were doing.
If it's the second (acute pain and/or swelling), I'd give it some rest and focus on lower body workouts/cardio for a few days. You could have just hyperextended it, and it will be fine with a little rest.
If it gets worse or doesn't improve at all by the weekend, I'd consider going into a sports specialist and having it looked at, worst case, you have a tear and contniuing to work it out is just going to make it worse and make surgery that much more likely.
Simarily, if it gets better and then you go through some exercises and it is right back to where it was, get it looked at.
All of that beign said, there's no way for anyone on here to tell you exactly what you're dealing with, with a high level of accuracy. Even if we know what we're talking about... we're not there to go through an evaluation process or run an MRI.
Good luck man. Nagging injuries are the worst... it's like I've always said, "make sure you don't cost yourself 2 months of training, by trying to save yourself 2 weeks of rest".

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: CopperHeart
Date: December 08, 2014 at 05:20 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/getting-back-to-training-hard.64791/

osubuckeye4 said:
Not that I'm a doctor, but, is it more of a low to mid-grade soreness? Or, is it an acute pain when you try to straighten out your arm/elbow?
Also, is it swollen at all, or is there a bit of a lump or bump when you press against it? Or does it feel fine (though sore) to the touch?
If it's general soreness without any swelling, just ignore it/train through it, 90+% chance you're just fatigued. Maybe ease up on the intensity level for a few workouts, and work your way back up to what you were doing.
If it's the second (acute pain and/or swelling), I'd give it some rest and focus on lower body workouts/cardio for a few days. If it gets worse or doesn't improve at all by the weekend, I'd consider going into a sports specialist and having it looked at. Simarily, if it gets better and then you go through some exercises and it is right back to where it was, get it looked at.
Click to expand...
It's more painful if my arm is completely straight or if I bring my hand close to my shoulder. It's pretty OK at 90 degrees. No lump or anything alarming. I imagine it's just because I'm not used to it. I'll pop Aleve now and face the music.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: osubuckeye4
Date: December 08, 2014 at 05:30 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/getting-back-to-training-hard.64791/

CopperHeart said:
It's more painful if my arm is completely straight or if I bring my hand close to my shoulder. It's pretty OK at 90 degrees. No lump or anything alarming. I imagine it's just because I'm not used to it. I'll pop Aleve now and face the music.
Click to expand...
Go through some simple resistance type stretching before you put any real heavy impactful weight on it. If the pain gets to the point where you can't stretch it all the way, don't do any impact type of training on it. You're not fighting for the UFC title next month or anything, you're just getting back into the swing of things. Airing on the side of caution one day right now and dedicting a little more of your workout to your core and cardio won't kill you.
One stretch that I always do before I start lifting is to put my arm dierctly out in front of me with my palm facing upwards, then take my other arm and press down at the forearm. Good stretch for the tricep.
Another is to take your free hand and place it around your wrist, extend your arm out (palm up) and then pull your wrist up to your ear. Next step to it is to move your free hand down to your elbow, then press up on it and try to grab the back of your shoulderblade with the arm you're stretching. The forearm of the arm that is grabbing the elbow should be parallel to your forehead.
If you can do both of those with full range of motion (it hurts, but, just a soreness... not acute pain), you're probably just battling general soreness.
If it's so tender that you can't put full pressure/get full range of motion without blinding pain... I'd stop right there and just do lower body workouts for a session or two and try to let it naturally recover. Ice it in the mornings and at night as well.
One of the most important things that any athlete can learn, is the difference between pain and soreness. You can always fight and push through soreness, you can't fight through legitimate pain because 9 times out of 10 you will end up doing more damage than good... you need to stop when it gets to that point and rest or get it evaluated and treated.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: CopperHeart
Date: December 08, 2014 at 05:46 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/getting-back-to-training-hard.64791/

Gladly I almost never take anything that numbs pain, so I'm good at gauging serious from not-serious.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: thedoop
Date: December 08, 2014 at 09:52 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/getting-back-to-training-hard.64791/

me too I started getting serious again like 2 weeks ago, I've been slacking hard cause it's getting cold here in Canada

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: cobra_punch
Date: December 08, 2014 at 10:21 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/getting-back-to-training-hard.64791/

thedoop said:
me too I started getting serious again like 2 weeks ago, I've been slacking hard cause it's getting cold here in Canada
Click to expand...
I like Copper's excuse more than yours

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: December 12, 2014 at 07:57 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/getting-back-to-training-hard.64791/

I don't have any suggestions CH, but I am right there with you.
After building everything up this year, I tore my knee and lost all my progress.
I know going back, which I will be doing in the next few weeks, is going to be painful as sh*t after each session.
I tend to fight through the pain and have appropriate inebriation tools prepared for the moment I finish for all the pain.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: TheCanuck
Date: December 12, 2014 at 10:55 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/getting-back-to-training-hard.64791/

I use this video to get going, Mark bell speaks to me

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: TheCanuck
Date: December 12, 2014 at 11:02 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/getting-back-to-training-hard.64791/

hah, watched it again myself now and am heading to the gym!
I say put some metallica on in the car and drive to KB bud

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: CopperHeart
Date: December 12, 2014 at 11:14 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/getting-back-to-training-hard.64791/

Good news it that the pain I described above went away. I think it was just my body asking me to be lazy again. I refused to listen.
And gladly my left wrist is holding up pretty well after surgery:

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: December 12, 2014 at 12:31 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/getting-back-to-training-hard.64791/

My wrist was doing the exact same thing this weekend, thought I was getting carpal tunnel syndrome as a retaliation for making fun of lazy people with carpal tunnel syndrome...
Nope, went away.
Hah hah to all the people with carpal tunnel....

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Spidy
Date: December 12, 2014 at 05:58 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/getting-back-to-training-hard.64791/

Jak said:
My wrist was doing the exact same thing this weekend, thought I was getting carpal tunnel syndrome as a retaliation for making fun of lazy people with carpal tunnel syndrome...
Nope, went away.
Hah hah to all the people with carpal tunnel....
Click to expand...
Karma is coming for your' a$!, and it won't be pretty
duck and run!

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Fight Magnet
Date: December 12, 2014 at 06:24 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/getting-back-to-training-hard.64791/

CopperHeart said:
What's what best approach?
Click to expand...
Suck it up butter cup !!

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: cobra_punch
Date: December 12, 2014 at 08:03 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/getting-back-to-training-hard.64791/

TheCanuck said:
I use this video to get going, Mark bell speaks to me
Click to expand...
I think I just threw up inside my own mouth a little bit.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Kroner
Date: December 20, 2014 at 10:53 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/getting-back-to-training-hard.64791/

Check the old wolf out !

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: osubuckeye4
Date: January 07, 2015 at 03:01 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/getting-back-to-training-hard.64791/

TheCanuck said:
I use this video to get going, Mark bell speaks to me
Click to expand...
The first 60-75 seconds of that video is some of the stupidest meathead bulls--- I've ever heard.
While I agree that soreness/fatigue should always be ignored and pushed through... legit pain should not.
I'll give him the fact that not enough people out there know the difference between actual pain and simple soreness/fatigue... but encouraging people to push through legitimate pain is retarded.
We might all die one day, that doesn't mean that we should jump off bridges and end it now.
The Jerry Rice stuff is also ridiculous. Rice tore his ACL and MCL in 1997... he didn't run onto the field the next week and push through it. He missed 14 weeks while having surgery to repair and rehab it. He was an absolute warrior and constantly pushed through soreness, but when he had legitimate injures, he did miss games... just like any other human being.
The speech in that video is a load of nonsense.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: TheCanuck
Date: June 08, 2015 at 11:02 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/getting-back-to-training-hard.64791/

i tried to get back to BJJ as i have taken time off to do lifting more specifically.
I realize what had made it less fun, and with kickboxing as well, was the size differential between me and the rest. at 6'3" and now 290ish, i am basically having to use what feels like improper technique so i can not put weight on people and not use any muscle.
I know as a white belt i dont know anything any way, but its very frustrating. Especially rolling, i dont try hard, just roll easy, but than i get complaints i am too heavy or strong, meanwhile the second they think they have something their squeezing or trying to rip my s--- off.
As a caveat, we have a young group, mainly white belts, and the coach is watching and help correct, but this is my venting as a big man trying to do little person bjj. Same reason i stopped sparring in KB and eventually have stopped going, no one wants to hold pads and i can never go above 50%.
Selfish i know

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: CopperHeart
Date: June 08, 2015 at 11:43 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/getting-back-to-training-hard.64791/

TheCanuck said:
i tried to get back to BJJ as i have taken time off to do lifting more specifically.
I realize what had made it less fun, and with kickboxing as well, was the size differential between me and the rest. at 6'3" and now 290ish, i am basically having to use what feels like improper technique so i can not put weight on people and not use any muscle.
I know as a white belt i dont know anything any way, but its very frustrating. Especially rolling, i dont try hard, just roll easy, but than i get complaints i am too heavy or strong, meanwhile the second they think they have something their squeezing or trying to rip my s--- off.
As a caveat, we have a young group, mainly white belts, and the coach is watching and help correct, but this is my venting as a big man trying to do little person bjj. Same reason i stopped sparring in KB and eventually have stopped going, no one wants to hold pads and i can never go above 50%.
Selfish i know
Click to expand...
You need new training partners, for sure.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: cobra_punch
Date: June 09, 2015 at 12:24 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/getting-back-to-training-hard.64791/

I have two training partners, the Hammer Brothers: Jack and Sledge.