Global Warming - Real or Not?
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Re: Global Warming
There isnt any "Global warming" happening the warmth of earth is in normal place when you see the temperature in the past move, we are along the normal lines.
This picture is from some research on how the temperature has changed in last 400 000 years.
Its speaks for itself.
Re: Global Warming
Rami said:
There isnt any "Global warming" happening the warmth of earth is in normal place when you see the temperature in the past move, we are along the normal lines.
This picture is from some research on how the temperature has changed in last 400 000 years.
Its speaks for itself.
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These graphs are really not that reliable. We have been able to take temperatures for I believe less then a thousand years and we have been documenting temperature for much less then that. They are using very complex methods to guess the temperature average throughout history but in reality it simply is just a guess. The further we go back the thinner the branch we have to crawl out on to make that guess.
Re: Global Warming
I compare man made global warming to how a house is warmed.
A house is warmed with the sun. You use a microwave and that might raise the temperature very insignificantly but on a scale compared to the sun it is nothing.
That doesn't mean the world isn't getting polluted, it obviously is.
Re: Global Warming
BadassCoffee said:
I compare man made global warming to how a house is warmed.
A house is warmed with the sun. You use a microwave and that might raise the temperature very insignificantly but on a scale compared to the sun it is nothing.
That doesn't mean the world isn't getting polluted, it obviously is.
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What kinda house are you living in that it is warmed by the sun? Its December, I have a gas heater. It warms the s--- out of my house.
Re: Global Warming
Reako said:
BadassCoffee said:
I compare man made global warming to how a house is warmed.
A house is warmed with the sun. You use a microwave and that might raise the temperature very insignificantly but on a scale compared to the sun it is nothing.
That doesn't mean the world isn't getting polluted, it obviously is.
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What kinda house are you living in that it is warmed by the sun? Its December, I have a gas heater. It warms the s**t out of my house.
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I can't write for s---. You didn't get the point though?
Re: Global Warming
The kooky thing about global warming or climate change or whatever you want to call it is the stuff we have done of the last 20-30 years to try to cut on specifically visible pollution might actually be hurting us and speeding up climate change. Look up global dimming.
Re: Global Warming
BadassCoffee said:
Reako said:
BadassCoffee said:
I compare man made global warming to how a house is warmed.
A house is warmed with the sun. You use a microwave and that might raise the temperature very insignificantly but on a scale compared to the sun it is nothing.
That doesn't mean the world isn't getting polluted, it obviously is.
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What kinda house are you living in that it is warmed by the sun? Its December, I have a gas heater. It warms the s**t out of my house.
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I can't write for s**t. You didn't get the point though?
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I completely got the point but the point is as valid as your analogy is quite frankly. The only people in the science community not saying we are changing s--- for the worse are those employed by the oil companies. That in itself should give you pause that maybe something is happening. You can see the visible difference in LA from 30 years ago to today with all the environmental changes they have made in california. The problem with the whole debate on global warming is its being argued mostly by people on both sides that have no damn clue what is happening. It has become a political debate. Its one of the reasons I have so little faith in humanity going forward. We have made scientific research into political agendas. If you lean to the right you dont think global warming exists because republican politicians parrot that its not happening. If you lean left you think global warming exists and man is atleast adding too it unnaturally mostly because democrat politicians parrot that it is happening. I simply look at what the researchers say and those not employed by people with something to gain if we dont make changes are saying this s--- is real. The one thing they dont agree on is how fast its happening.
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I don't have much to say since I agree with what you said and that is the way I try to look at it. When writing my post, LA did pop into my mind. The air quality is horrible there but has the temperature actually changed? Looking at some temperature records, it doesn't look convincing enough.
Re: Global Warming
BadassCoffee said:
I don't have much to say since I agree with what you said and that is the way I try to look at it. When writing my post, LA did pop into my mind. The air quality is horrible there but has the temperature actually changed? Looking at some temperature records, it doesn't look convincing enough.
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Well first and foremost the changes we have experienced so far are very minor. The bad s--- is when air pollution is extrapolated into the future at the current trend. The thing with LA is its actually gotten better. There are visible changes you can see in the betterment of the air quality from the 70s to today you can see with your eyes themselves.
Re: Global Warming
I wonder why anyone can say that they have seen difference in last 30 years what has happened in california, 30 freaking years.. earth is 4.7 million old that 30 years is like saying that you body temperature is rising alarmingly fast if your temperature changes 0.1 at some day at some hour for a 10 minutes, compared to the time you live approx 80 years. You shouldnt compare the global warming on 30 year scale, 100 years is not enough, 1000 years might be something to look at, but as the scale shows what I pasted, that less than 20000 years and you cannot compare anything to anything.
The temperature changes all the time, and Carbondioxide has changed many times on earth during the elapse of last 400 000 years, it can be tested so we are nowhere near the levels we should be worried, the temperature is normal. It is made to be a bigger thing that it is. Just politics
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Rami said:
I wonder why anyone can say that they have seen difference in last 30 years what has happened in california, 30 freaking years.. earth is 4.7 million old that 30 years is like saying that you body temperature is rising alarmingly fast if your temperature changes 0.1 at some day at some hour for a 10 minutes, compared to the time you live approx 80 years. You shouldnt compare the global warming on 30 year scale, 100 years is not enough, 1000 years might be something to look at, but as the scale shows what I pasted, that less than 20000 years and you cannot compare anything to anything.
The temperature changes all the time, and Carbondioxide has changed many times on earth during the elapse of last 400 000 years, it can be tested so we are nowhere near the levels we should be worried, the temperature is normal. It is made to be a bigger thing that it is. Just politics
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Did you even say anything in that? You literally said nothing but "you shouldnt be worried about it" That is literally all you said. Also smog and temperature are not the same thing. Smog has decreased in california and specifically in los angeles over the last 30 to 40 years despite having more cars on the road because they are the most strict state in the country regarding environmental laws and emissions from cars. I didnt mention temperature in my 30 year post on california I mentioned smog.
The carbon dioxide statement you made. Please provide documents from 400,000 years ago on the carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere. Its just a nonsensical statement to state that we have even a remote clue what the levels of any elements were in the air 400,000 years ago or even 400 years ago because the equipment to tell us this did not exist.
Re: Global Warming
regardless of whether climate change is man-made or not, the pollutants that we're churning into the atmosphere aren't good for us one way or the other.
trying to get industry (and the US military) to stop polluting is a talking to the wind.