Originally posted by: renjr84 Date: February 07, 2014 at 07:36 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-submission-fighter-4-frank-mir-vs-13-rickson-gracie.60958/
So far 3 matches are in the books, with BJ Penn, Souza and Werdum all advancing..
so the second rd is shaping up as #1 BJ Penn vs #8 Jacare Souza and #5 Fabricio Werdum vs Mir/ Rickson
Who will Werdum face.. will be the the greatest Gracie to ever live or the only other hwt who can match Werdums in cage skills
Frank Mir
16 wins with 9 coming by submission..
broken arms of Big Nog, Tim Sylvia and even submitted Brock Lesnar
Rickson Gracie
400-0 with all 400 coming by way of submission
Originally posted by: grumble Date: February 07, 2014 at 07:47 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-submission-fighter-4-frank-mir-vs-13-rickson-gracie.60958/
Originally posted by: renjr84 Date: February 07, 2014 at 07:54 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-submission-fighter-4-frank-mir-vs-13-rickson-gracie.60958/
grumble said:
Even his dad wouldn't back that bulls--- up.
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I know I loved it when I read that his dad said his fight record was total bulls---
Originally posted by: Spidy Date: February 07, 2014 at 08:38 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-submission-fighter-4-frank-mir-vs-13-rickson-gracie.60958/
His 400000 - 0 record may be a stretch, but everyone in the Gracie family will tell ya he was the killer out of the entire brood. There was a reason why Royce was the family rep in the UFC. They didnt need to send their best... Who just so happens to be Rickson. Royce has said as much many times.
Originally posted by: whatdupdoh Date: February 07, 2014 at 08:47 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-submission-fighter-4-frank-mir-vs-13-rickson-gracie.60958/
renjr84 said:
I know I loved it when I read that his dad said his fight record was total bulls---
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Not really he just said Rickson was counting all of his unofficial fights and rolls combined and Helio said if you counted his it would be in the thousands.
Originally posted by: KZUFCchamp2013 Date: February 08, 2014 at 06:34 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-submission-fighter-4-frank-mir-vs-13-rickson-gracie.60958/
Originally posted by: Bredman1982 Date: February 08, 2014 at 05:24 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-submission-fighter-4-frank-mir-vs-13-rickson-gracie.60958/
Rickson would tool frank badly in a grappling match especially with the gi 's on. I feel sorry for any of you that think otherwise. Franks bjj is good but not on a world class level at all.
Originally posted by: Bredman1982 Date: February 08, 2014 at 05:30 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-submission-fighter-4-frank-mir-vs-13-rickson-gracie.60958/
KZUFCchamp2013 said:
The Gracie's are plagiarist trash. They invented nothing. Mir>>>>>>>>>>>>>any of those scumbags
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Junkie you really do need to put a thumbs down or dislike option on here for extremely ignorant comments like this one
Originally posted by: KZUFCchamp2013 Date: February 08, 2014 at 05:33 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-submission-fighter-4-frank-mir-vs-13-rickson-gracie.60958/
Bredman1982 said:
Junkie you really do need to put a thumbs down or dislike option on here for extremely ignorant comments like this one
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This
Originally posted by: GOODNIGHTIRENE Date: February 08, 2014 at 10:18 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-submission-fighter-4-frank-mir-vs-13-rickson-gracie.60958/
Originally posted by: GOODNIGHTIRENE Date: February 08, 2014 at 10:19 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-submission-fighter-4-frank-mir-vs-13-rickson-gracie.60958/
Originally posted by: Spidy Date: February 08, 2014 at 10:25 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/greatest-submission-fighter-4-frank-mir-vs-13-rickson-gracie.60958/
GOODNIGHTIRENE said:
14 people have never seen a rickson gracie fight.
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Other than Bruce Lee, he's the main reason I'm a MMA Fan. Saw B+W footage of him fighting in a pit, NHB, years before there even was a UFC. Most people who actually did see him fight, missed the Rickson who destroys anyone put in front of him
