Originally posted by: imhungry4444 Date: December 03, 2015 at 10:00 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/holly-holm-vs-ronda-rousey-ii-set.67887/
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Dana White on ESPN: If we didn't make the Holm/Rousey rematch, me and Lorenzo would have to lose our promoter's license. That's next.
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Originally posted by: JonnyRico Date: December 03, 2015 at 10:11 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/holly-holm-vs-ronda-rousey-ii-set.67887/
Originally posted by: chitown45 Date: December 03, 2015 at 10:36 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/holly-holm-vs-ronda-rousey-ii-set.67887/
It's not about whether or not Rousey deserves the rematch, I think she obviously does. But if she wants to go film movies and change gyms and what not, Holly shouldn't have to wait for her. Give her Miesha in the mean time and when Ronda learns how to box she can get an immediate shot at whoever is champ.
Jak said:
They should lose their promoters license for not giving Tate the title fight.
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Rousey deserves the rematch I just hope it's not too soon. Rousey should take the time off as she suggested and give Tate the next fight and the winner faces Rousey at UFC 200.
Originally posted by: THE FIRST Date: December 03, 2015 at 11:40 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/holly-holm-vs-ronda-rousey-ii-set.67887/
JonnyRico said:
If this doesn't happen before May at the latest this is stupid.
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yup. People are complaining that champ holds the division not fighting regularly and now we have a champ that can fight in 3 months and there are contenders they can schedule so I see no point in giving Ronda time and hold Holm until ufc200
Originally posted by: 2_1up2_4down Date: December 03, 2015 at 12:58 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/holly-holm-vs-ronda-rousey-ii-set.67887/
I mentioned before, there's other factors. Namely UFC brass. They had to make a quick decision. Cause Ronda has other options. Hollywood (TV/Movies), WWE. That could easily lead her to decide to retire sooner if doubts on her being able to beat Holly creep into her mental state. The rematch would've been just as big if each fought someone else first. But going that route increases the risk of Ronda walking away. UFC 200, rematch, break even more records. And in turn if Holly treats Ronda like a pinata again, Holly is an even bugger star.
If Rousey vs Holm II is next, then how do you pair up these 6 fighters for their next bouts. (Doubt I'm missing any 'contenders'...Alexis Davis is prego as well):
M.Tate
Tonya Evinger (bring her over from Invicta)
C.Zingano
Bethe C.
Julianna Pena
Amanda Nunes
I'd like to see:
Tate vs Nunes (been talked about a lot. #1 contender match)
Zingano vs Bethe (both coming off a loss)
Julianna Pena vs Tonya Evinger
Rachel P vs Liz C. is already booked, both coming off wins
and use
winner of Kaufman vs Germaine is your injury replacement
Originally posted by: callithowyouseeit Date: December 03, 2015 at 01:37 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/holly-holm-vs-ronda-rousey-ii-set.67887/
Rubbish.
Unless Ronda is willing to fight soon, I hate stalling the division while she regroups after the KO loss.
Instant rematches are a double edged sword with dominant champions. If the champ returns and wins, woohoo, big money trilogy fight! But if the dominant champ loses twice in a row.... A la Anderson Silva..... Their stock plummets immediately and it's hard to warrant giving them another chance assuming the champ that beat them still holds the strap.
Only the Champ can make people wait, not the challenger. But this is the UFC, the popular fighter calls the shots. So, if RR wants to make a movie till May, then fight in July, HH has to wait.
Originally posted by: imhungry4444 Date: December 03, 2015 at 02:48 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/holly-holm-vs-ronda-rousey-ii-set.67887/
I bet Miesha's piiiiiissed. Rightfully so. Would not be surprised if she decided to hang'em up. It's a rare justified injustice. Miesha has earned her title shot in spades, but can you blame the UFC for setting up Holm-Rousey II? $$$$$
Originally posted by: 2_1up2_4down Date: December 03, 2015 at 03:17 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/holly-holm-vs-ronda-rousey-ii-set.67887/
Tate is seemingly setting up a fight with Bethe through twitter. If UFC puts her on UFC 200 or on another big card against Bethe, all would be forgiven.
Tum Tum said:
Rousey deserves the rematch I just hope it's not too soon. Rousey should take the time off as she suggested and give Tate the next fight and the winner faces Rousey at UFC 200.
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That's pretty much what I mean. This is similar to TJ/Barao, where Barao "deserved" a rematch, yet it was something that seemingly wasn't needed immediately.
Originally posted by: southpaw89 Date: December 03, 2015 at 03:23 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/holly-holm-vs-ronda-rousey-ii-set.67887/
I have Ronda pushing forward more aggressively so she can find momentum for a takedown, while overwhelming Holly with headbutts to the fists, only to maybe fall and secure an armbar, or headbutt her fists enough times before the armbar comes that we see another awesome tko..... from holly
Originally posted by: Oldwardog Date: December 03, 2015 at 04:00 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/holly-holm-vs-ronda-rousey-ii-set.67887/
I guess DW and the Frittatas cant wait to see the cash cow get butchered yet again, seriously this is BS making every other contender as well as the title holder wait, not just to fight but a paycheck as well, because your little cow got her *** whipped like a red headed step child. I don't think Miesha should get the shot though I think Zingano or Pena should get that fight.
Originally posted by: london209 Date: December 03, 2015 at 04:03 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/holly-holm-vs-ronda-rousey-ii-set.67887/
How dare you ruin our masterplan we put you in there because you didn't do anything too impressive but we knew with a good performance some confidence and your skill set you was a threat so we threw you in earlier to eliminate you from the title picture
Now it's double or quits and if you lose you ain't getting a rubber match till meisha, cyborg and probly Juliana get a shot
I hope holly hits her with the right high kick this time
Originally posted by: Sedulous Date: December 03, 2015 at 04:15 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/holly-holm-vs-ronda-rousey-ii-set.67887/
Originally posted by: cmvideo75 Date: December 03, 2015 at 04:18 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/holly-holm-vs-ronda-rousey-ii-set.67887/
2_1up2_4down said:
Tate is seemingly setting up a fight with Bethe through twitter. If UFC puts her on UFC 200 or on another big card against Bethe, all would be forgiven.
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I saw that tweet where Bethe said she is going to retire Miesha and then take Holly's belt. She should probably dial back the trash talk a bit after how that worked out last time...
Originally posted by: 2_1up2_4down Date: December 03, 2015 at 04:36 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/holly-holm-vs-ronda-rousey-ii-set.67887/
@cmvideo75, Bethe is WMMA's equivalent to Boxing's Ricardo Mayorga. Someone who talks so much trash that fans want to see her lose to the bigger name fighter. Even though that big name fighter was going to dominate them no matter what. But the trash talk made fans overlook the obvious mismatch.