How do you think MMA salaries will compare to boxing

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: CodieLynn21
Date: August 09, 2011 at 09:16 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-do-you-think-mma-salaries-will-compare-to-boxing.41139/

How do you think MMA fighters will be paid in future compared to boxing salaries. I am to lazy to do research on top MMA fighters now compared to boxing in terms of top salaries.I Know Mayweather and Pacquai earn like 25 mil a fight and I know a local boxing prodigy Tom Karpency that nets around 12 g a fight in the Pittsburgh geography.That alone is more than some of the opening match of ppv events get.Most of prelim guys net 3 to 5 k if they dont recieve a bonus.Only Lesnar GSP Randy ,maybe Anderson even net anything close to a million per fight.Eventualy the gap should close the question is when.

 

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Originally posted by: Tgilb2007
Date: August 09, 2011 at 09:39 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-do-you-think-mma-salaries-will-compare-to-boxing.41139/

To be honest, I don't know if they ever will match what boxers make. While most of the money does go to the main card fighters, the UFC is (at least IMO), starting to share the money a little better. Undercard guys get what, $5-10k per fight, and have the chance at FOTN, SOTN, and KOTN awards (usually between 55-70k each, sometimes you get double bonus). But, you have around 5-6 guys that make around the $10k mark, 5-6 guys around the 20-40k mark, and then the main eventers, that range between 100-250k (or Tito at 450k), per fight.
Also, remember, that some of the fighters get PPV cuts that aren't disclosed, and we don't know how much these guys are making from sponsorships. Esp in regards to guys like Bones Jones (Bud Light, K-Swiss), Faber (K-Swiss, Amp), GSP (Under Armor, Gatorade), and Anderson Silva (BK in Brazil/South America, Nike).
Just some random things to think about.

 

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Originally posted by: RearNakedSlam
Date: August 09, 2011 at 09:40 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-do-you-think-mma-salaries-will-compare-to-boxing.41139/

CodieLynn21 said:
How do you think MMA fighters will be paid in future compared to boxing salaries. I am to lazy to do research on top MMA fighters now compared to boxing in terms of top salaries.I Know Mayweather and Pacquai earn like 25 mil a fight and I know a local boxing prodigy Tom Karpency that nets around 12 g a fight in the Pittsburgh geography.That alone is more than some of the opening match of ppv events get.Most of prelim guys net 3 to 5 k if they dont recieve a bonus.Only Lesnar GSP Randy ,maybe Anderson even net anything close to a million per fight.Eventualy the gap should close the question is when.
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I guess i'll answer your question with a question, and then elaborate.
When Mayweather and Mosley faught, what other fighters got paid? What was the price of floor seats?
MMA, while becoming wildly more popular, is not at the level that boxing is. When people pay these outlandish prices to watch only 1 fight, then those 2 fighters will make ridiculous paychecks like these guys. However, there are on average 20 fighters getting paid, and more often than not, there are 2 or 3 fights that are equally as important on each card (if there isn't a title fight on the card). Likely MMA fighters will never make as much as pro boxers. In order for that to happen, MMA would have to have about 5 times the viewers that boxing gets.

 

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Originally posted by: Moranis
Date: August 09, 2011 at 10:11 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-do-you-think-mma-salaries-will-compare-to-boxing.41139/

RearNakedSlam said:
CodieLynn21 said:
How do you think MMA fighters will be paid in future compared to boxing salaries. I am to lazy to do research on top MMA fighters now compared to boxing in terms of top salaries.I Know Mayweather and Pacquai earn like 25 mil a fight and I know a local boxing prodigy Tom Karpency that nets around 12 g a fight in the Pittsburgh geography.That alone is more than some of the opening match of ppv events get.Most of prelim guys net 3 to 5 k if they dont recieve a bonus.Only Lesnar GSP Randy ,maybe Anderson even net anything close to a million per fight.Eventualy the gap should close the question is when.
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I guess i'll answer your question with a question, and then elaborate.
When Mayweather and Mosley faught, what other fighters got paid? What was the price of floor seats?
MMA, while becoming wildly more popular, is not at the level that boxing is. When people pay these outlandish prices to watch only 1 fight, then those 2 fighters will make ridiculous paychecks like these guys. However, there are on average 20 fighters getting paid, and more often than not, there are 2 or 3 fights that are equally as important on each card (if there isn't a title fight on the card). Likely MMA fighters will never make as much as pro boxers. In order for that to happen, MMA would have to have about 5 times the viewers that boxing gets.
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Comparing boxers to MMA fighters is not apples to apples because many of the top boxers are also promoters and get paid for both things. The sports just don't have the same business model.

 

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Originally posted by: DeMo
Date: August 09, 2011 at 11:10 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-do-you-think-mma-salaries-will-compare-to-boxing.41139/

Dana white came on Sportnet a channel up here in canada and said GSP makes as much per year as any canadian athlete that includes guys like Crosby making 8.5 mill in salary and w/e he makes in sponorships, so yea these guys are making alot of money already

 

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Originally posted by: mabrown45
Date: August 09, 2011 at 11:43 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-do-you-think-mma-salaries-will-compare-to-boxing.41139/

The top boxers get way more but the pay goes down much more dramaticly than that of lower mma fighters

 

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Originally posted by: TheLethalLefty
Date: August 10, 2011 at 02:26 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-do-you-think-mma-salaries-will-compare-to-boxing.41139/

ESPN The Magazine, in its May 2011 issue, did a story listing the highest paid athlete based on base salary and earnings for the most recent calendar year or most recent season in 30 sports. Brock Lesnar topped the list for mixed martial artists at $5.3 million, which included his reported bout salaries and estimated pay-per-view bonuses
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With that being said, I can't think of many fighters that will earn more than that in a year. Boxing salaries will be bigger than MMA salaries for a good while I think.

 

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Originally posted by: GOODNIGHTIRENE
Date: August 10, 2011 at 02:31 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-do-you-think-mma-salaries-will-compare-to-boxing.41139/

yoshida got 1.5million for one sponsorship patch on his Gi when he fought royce.....imagine what his fighting purse was

 

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Originally posted by: Sapper
Date: August 10, 2011 at 03:37 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-do-you-think-mma-salaries-will-compare-to-boxing.41139/

Not in our life time will we see MMA salaries get to where boxers are getting payed. Look at the three best boxers in the world.. Mayweather $20,000,000 per fight. Pacquiao $22,000,000 per fight. Wladimir Klitschko $21,000,000 per fight. This is will PPV shares added in. GSP got $400,000 in his last fight over Shields. It is estimated that the three boxers I have listed got the same amount in endorsement deals in a year. MMA is a long way from boxing

 

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Originally posted by: BaconBits
Date: August 10, 2011 at 08:15 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-do-you-think-mma-salaries-will-compare-to-boxing.41139/

There's only about a dozen boxers (if that even) who make the multi-millions people speak of when they talk boxing salaries. The rest of em generally make about the same as your average UFC low undercard fighter.
Trust me, ya'll don't want mma salaries structured like boxing.

 

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Originally posted by: Moranis
Date: August 10, 2011 at 09:40 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-do-you-think-mma-salaries-will-compare-to-boxing.41139/

Sapper said:
Not in our life time will we see MMA salaries get to where boxers are getting payed. Look at the three best boxers in the world.. Mayweather $20,000,000 per fight. Pacquiao $22,000,000 per fight. Wladimir Klitschko $21,000,000 per fight. This is will PPV shares added in. GSP got $400,000 in his last fight over Shields. It is estimated that the three boxers I have listed got the same amount in endorsement deals in a year. MMA is a long way from boxing
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What are GSP's PPV shares? I mean you have to do apples to apples or there is just no point.
And ESPN listed Manny as the top boxer at 32 million for 2 fights, which is 16 mill per, not 22 mill per.

 

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Originally posted by: PsychoIcon
Date: August 10, 2011 at 09:50 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-do-you-think-mma-salaries-will-compare-to-boxing.41139/

Moranis said:
Sapper said:
Not in our life time will we see MMA salaries get to where boxers are getting payed. Look at the three best boxers in the world.. Mayweather $20,000,000 per fight. Pacquiao $22,000,000 per fight. Wladimir Klitschko $21,000,000 per fight. This is will PPV shares added in. GSP got $400,000 in his last fight over Shields. It is estimated that the three boxers I have listed got the same amount in endorsement deals in a year. MMA is a long way from boxing
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What are GSP's PPV shares? I mean you have to do apples to apples or there is just no point.
And ESPN listed Manny as the top boxer at 32 million for 2 fights, which is 16 mill per, not 22 mill per.
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Ya, imma ride with Moranis. Im going to say they only make a couple million at the most per pay per view. Brock got like 5.5 for 3 fights last year. So... somewhere around 1.5 million per event in pay per views.
This is an organization thou, and the promoter in boxing doesnt invest in its product like the UFC does. The company next events, constant scheduling.... UFC needs the money to keep reinvesting. So does boxing, but they cant survive with the little guys because they give WAY too much to the popular fighters. 16 Million for 1 fight is just obsurd. Which ends up being more like 10 million after taxes. Probably 8 after he pays trainers. So hes probably walking with that.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Moranis
Date: August 10, 2011 at 09:56 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-do-you-think-mma-salaries-will-compare-to-boxing.41139/

PsychoIcon said:
Moranis said:
Sapper said:
Not in our life time will we see MMA salaries get to where boxers are getting payed. Look at the three best boxers in the world.. Mayweather $20,000,000 per fight. Pacquiao $22,000,000 per fight. Wladimir Klitschko $21,000,000 per fight. This is will PPV shares added in. GSP got $400,000 in his last fight over Shields. It is estimated that the three boxers I have listed got the same amount in endorsement deals in a year. MMA is a long way from boxing
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What are GSP's PPV shares? I mean you have to do apples to apples or there is just no point.
And ESPN listed Manny as the top boxer at 32 million for 2 fights, which is 16 mill per, not 22 mill per.
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Ya, imma ride with Moranis. Im going to say they only make a couple million at the most per pay per view. Brock got like 5.5 for 3 fights last year. So... somewhere around 1.5 million per event in pay per views.
This is an organization thou, and the promoter in boxing doesnt invest in its product like the UFC does. The company next events, constant scheduling.... UFC needs the money to keep reinvesting. So does boxing, but they cant survive with the little guys because they give WAY too much to the popular fighters. 16 Million for 1 fight is just obsurd. Which ends up being more like 10 million after taxes. Probably 8 after he pays trainers. So hes probably walking with that.
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Brock only had 2 fights in 2010. Carwin and Velasquez. Both topped 1 million PPV buys. It also doesn't count the sponsorship for the actual fight (which is different then a normal endorsement deal - which shouldn't be counted in those numbers, while I believe the actual fight sponsorship dollars should be).
It is all PPV driven. GSP and Brock were both rumored at over 3 million each for UFC 100 which had the massive buy rate.

 

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Originally posted by: abc0331
Date: August 10, 2011 at 10:42 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-do-you-think-mma-salaries-will-compare-to-boxing.41139/

The more the fighters get paid, the more they will protect themselves by picking and choosing fights, the less they will fight, and the harder it will be to get fights fans want to see. Which ultimatly means a drop in revenue.
Keeping fighter wages in check is a big reason why the UFC has been able to be successful in this market and catch up to boxing. I know fighters get a bit of the shaft in not getting "equal" shares, but they make good money and have a platform to make even more good money.

 

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Originally posted by: PsychoIcon
Date: August 10, 2011 at 12:24 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-do-you-think-mma-salaries-will-compare-to-boxing.41139/

abc0331 said:
The more the fighters get paid, the more they will protect themselves by picking and choosing fights, the less they will fight, and the harder it will be to get fights fans want to see. Which ultimatly means a drop in revenue.
Keeping fighter wages in check is a big reason why the UFC has been able to be successful in this market and catch up to boxing. I know fighters get a bit of the shaft in not getting "equal" shares, but they make good money and have a platform to make even more good money.
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+1
Even thou I believe the all salaries should be raised around 25-30k across the board.

 

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Originally posted by: Sapper
Date: August 10, 2011 at 03:52 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-do-you-think-mma-salaries-will-compare-to-boxing.41139/

Moranis said:
Sapper said:
Not in our life time will we see MMA salaries get to where boxers are getting payed. Look at the three best boxers in the world.. Mayweather $20,000,000 per fight. Pacquiao $22,000,000 per fight. Wladimir Klitschko $21,000,000 per fight. This is will PPV shares added in. GSP got $400,000 in his last fight over Shields. It is estimated that the three boxers I have listed got the same amount in endorsement deals in a year. MMA is a long way from boxing
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What are GSP's PPV shares? I mean you have to do apples to apples or there is just no point.
And ESPN listed Manny as the top boxer at 32 million for 2 fights, which is 16 mill per, not 22 mill per
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GSP got $200,000 for PPV buys. From all that I found Mayweather gets about 8-10 million to fight, the rest is PPV money. As I said PPV shares were added in. It was hard to find real numbers per fight, most sites had total $$$ added in, or just PPV dollars. Kiltschko's fight did 42 million in PPV buys and he got half, that is the only number I could find on his last fight.
BaconBits said:
There's only about a dozen boxers (if that even) who make the multi-millions people speak of when they talk boxing salaries. The rest of em generally make about the same as your average UFC low undercard fighter.
Trust me, ya'll don't want mma salaries structured like boxing.
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This is very true as well. Only the top boxers get paid the big buck right now. We all know how many top boxers there are right now......

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Moranis
Date: August 10, 2011 at 04:14 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-do-you-think-mma-salaries-will-compare-to-boxing.41139/

Sapper said:
Moranis said:
Sapper said:
Not in our life time will we see MMA salaries get to where boxers are getting payed. Look at the three best boxers in the world.. Mayweather $20,000,000 per fight. Pacquiao $22,000,000 per fight. Wladimir Klitschko $21,000,000 per fight. This is will PPV shares added in. GSP got $400,000 in his last fight over Shields. It is estimated that the three boxers I have listed got the same amount in endorsement deals in a year. MMA is a long way from boxing
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What are GSP's PPV shares? I mean you have to do apples to apples or there is just no point.
And ESPN listed Manny as the top boxer at 32 million for 2 fights, which is 16 mill per, not 22 mill per
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GSP got $200,000 for PPV buys. From all that I found Mayweather gets about 8-10 million to fight, the rest is PPV money. As I said PPV shares were added in. It was hard to find real numbers per fight, most sites had total $$$ added in, or just PPV dollars. Kiltschko's fight did 42 million in PPV buys and he got half, that is the only number I could find on his last fight.
BaconBits said:
There's only about a dozen boxers (if that even) who make the multi-millions people speak of when they talk boxing salaries. The rest of em generally make about the same as your average UFC low undercard fighter.
Trust me, ya'll don't want mma salaries structured like boxing.
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This is very true as well. Only the top boxers get paid the big buck right now. We all know how many top boxers there are right now......
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GSP makes significantly more then 200k from PPV buys. He gets over a million pretty much every time and the big cards is multiple millions.