How long will it take Anthony Johnson to Ko Josh Koscheck?

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: November 20, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-long-will-it-take-anthony-johnson-to-ko-josh-koscheck.19642/

I just started this as a fun UFC 106 poll, i'll merge it tomorrow, or if the fight needs its own thread, this can be it.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: keystone
Date: November 20, 2009 at 11:45 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-long-will-it-take-anthony-johnson-to-ko-josh-koscheck.19642/

I stand by Kos!!!! Props to AJ for making weight though

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: November 20, 2009 at 11:55 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-long-will-it-take-anthony-johnson-to-ko-josh-koscheck.19642/

keystone said:
I stand by Kos!!!
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It would be crazy if he won, i like Kos, but i got AJ in under a minute. If not under that, then shortly after round 2 starts.
WAR KOS! WAR AJ!
They should make all there match ups like this, not wait until a main event pulls out to put together a sweet fight like this one.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: GrizzlyChadams
Date: November 20, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-long-will-it-take-anthony-johnson-to-ko-josh-koscheck.19642/

I really think Kos will continue to takedown AJ and eventually finish it with a TKO in the 2nd.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: kcrazy
Date: November 21, 2009 at 12:04 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-long-will-it-take-anthony-johnson-to-ko-josh-koscheck.19642/

Kos wins

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: UKdonkbet
Date: November 21, 2009 at 12:05 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-long-will-it-take-anthony-johnson-to-ko-josh-koscheck.19642/

GrizzlyChadams said:
I really think Kos will continue to takedown AJ and eventually finish it with a TKO in the 2nd.
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Kos dont even try for take downs anymore. he thinks he is a stand up striker now. Not sure if Kos could get AJ down anyway

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Project86
Date: November 21, 2009 at 12:17 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-long-will-it-take-anthony-johnson-to-ko-josh-koscheck.19642/

did'nt Burns last almost 3 full rounds before getting KO'd?

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: November 21, 2009 at 12:20 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-long-will-it-take-anthony-johnson-to-ko-josh-koscheck.19642/

Project86 said:
did'nt Burns last almost 3 full rounds before getting KO'd?
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That's a vague sentiment. Man up and call it.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: GrizzlyChadams
Date: November 21, 2009 at 12:23 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-long-will-it-take-anthony-johnson-to-ko-josh-koscheck.19642/

UKdonkbet said:
GrizzlyChadams said:
I really think Kos will continue to takedown AJ and eventually finish it with a TKO in the 2nd.
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Kos dont even try for take downs anymore. he thinks he is a stand up striker now. Not sure if Kos could get AJ down anyway
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Where does everyone get this idea that AJ has spectacular takedown defense? Because he's big? The guy was takendown by Clementi and submitted wasn't he? But noooo, of course a very accomplished wrestler like Kos has no chance of taking him down.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: YukonCornelius
Date: November 21, 2009 at 12:28 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-long-will-it-take-anthony-johnson-to-ko-josh-koscheck.19642/

Someone will be sleeping before the end of the 2nd.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Jak
Date: November 21, 2009 at 12:28 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-long-will-it-take-anthony-johnson-to-ko-josh-koscheck.19642/

GrizzlyChadams said:
Where does everyone get this idea that AJ has spectacular takedown defense?
Because he's big?
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Yeah, pretty much.
I just can't get Alves vs. Kos out of my mind when i think of how this fight will turn out.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Chug_Life
Date: November 21, 2009 at 01:15 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-long-will-it-take-anthony-johnson-to-ko-josh-koscheck.19642/

more excited for this fight than I am griffin/ortiz. I got AJ laying Kos out in the third round. I believe this bc in the Kos/Chris Lytle fight Kos took Lytle down over and over and by the third round his hands had dropped big time. I believe KOS will have the exact same gameplan in tomorrows fight.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: BaconBits
Date: November 21, 2009 at 01:26 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-long-will-it-take-anthony-johnson-to-ko-josh-koscheck.19642/

GrizzlyChadams said:
UKdonkbet said:
GrizzlyChadams said:
I really think Kos will continue to takedown AJ and eventually finish it with a TKO in the 2nd.
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Kos dont even try for take downs anymore. he thinks he is a stand up striker now. Not sure if Kos could get AJ down anyway
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Where does everyone get this idea that AJ has spectacular takedown defense? Because he's big? The guy was takendown by Clementi and submitted wasn't he? But noooo, of course a very accomplished wrestler like Kos has no chance of taking him down.
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He's bigger, stronger, faster and more athletic than Kos. That alone gives him a good chance at stuffing the takedown (which Kos probably won't even attempt, because he is in love with his overrated standup). Clementi took him down with ease because Rumble took the fight on two days notice. It's a bad matchup for Kos.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Date: November 21, 2009 at 07:39 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-long-will-it-take-anthony-johnson-to-ko-josh-koscheck.19642/

UKdonkbet said:
GrizzlyChadams said:
I really think Kos will continue to takedown AJ and eventually finish it with a TKO in the 2nd.
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Kos dont even try for take downs anymore. he thinks he is a stand up striker now. Not sure if Kos could get AJ down anyway
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Yeah. I think that either Kos will try to stand with with AJ or he'll get smacked around a bit then try for a desperation shot but it'll already be too late.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: Koos
Date: November 21, 2009 at 09:14 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-long-will-it-take-anthony-johnson-to-ko-josh-koscheck.19642/

I'm not much of a Kos fan but I think he takes this one. Kos has been in the cage with the best of the best and AJ has never faced a top level fighter. I know a little time has passed but Burns did go to the third round in both fights and Rich did stop him.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: JCOLE81
Date: November 21, 2009 at 09:22 AM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-long-will-it-take-anthony-johnson-to-ko-josh-koscheck.19642/

I gotta stand by Kos like someone said he's been in there with the best of the best. I will be ultra-impressed with AJ if he can beat Kos.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: dburke88220
Date: November 21, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-long-will-it-take-anthony-johnson-to-ko-josh-koscheck.19642/

I'll give AJ props when/if he earns them. He's looked very, very good against former opponents, none of which are the callibar of KOS. we'll see I guess. Hopefully KOS goes back to his roots and puts AJ on his back.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: TeeJeigh
Date: November 21, 2009 at 01:07 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-long-will-it-take-anthony-johnson-to-ko-josh-koscheck.19642/

First exchange, whenever it happens, determines the path the fight goes along: either an AJ KO or Kos GnP. My bet would be a KO in the first exchange. Say, in the first 2:00.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: fishfryer
Date: November 21, 2009 at 01:26 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-long-will-it-take-anthony-johnson-to-ko-josh-koscheck.19642/

Should be a good fight, both fighters I like, I gotta go with Kos.

 

[Nastycrow]

Originally posted by: TheGreatAwakening
Date: November 21, 2009 at 02:15 PM
Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/how-long-will-it-take-anthony-johnson-to-ko-josh-koscheck.19642/

GrizzlyChadams said:
UKdonkbet said:
GrizzlyChadams said:
I really think Kos will continue to takedown AJ and eventually finish it with a TKO in the 2nd.
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Kos dont even try for take downs anymore. he thinks he is a stand up striker now. Not sure if Kos could get AJ down anyway
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Where does everyone get this idea that AJ has spectacular takedown defense? Because he's big? The guy was takendown by Clementi and submitted wasn't he? But noooo, of course a very accomplished wrestler like Kos has no chance of taking him down.
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Who EVER said Kos had NO chance of taking him down?
Stop being so dramatic. Many of us wonder if this fight will hit the canvas for several reasons- Koscheck seems to be more comfortable standing these days, we haven't seen those dominant shots in quite awhile, and Johnson is a huge, strong, incredible athlete with a lengthy wrestling history. NOBODY said Koscheck has NO chance of taking him down. But if he only shoots occassionally between scores of overhand rights instead of committing to turning the fight into a wrestling match, a lot of us wonder if Johnson can get a few stuffs and knock him out.
Why do we think AJ might be in the process of developing fantastic takedown defense? For starters, he just *looks* like he's good at it. The eye test isn't everything but it's something, and when the fight starts its means a whole lot more than what your resume says. Johnson is big and shredded and he simply looks very comfortable athletically when his opponent shoots in on him. And whether he was division one, two, nine or juco, AJ's been going to wrestling practices his whole life. Also, we really need to stop using the Clementi fight as evidence of AJ's suspect takedown and submission defense. The man was physically a mess, and that performance was CLEARLY an outlier. If we're going to draw conclusions from the one time a guy was a mess instead of the handfuls of times he wasn't then we should also be saying that Shogun is a bum on the ground (he got subbed by Forrest!), Forrest is a BJJ master (he subbed Shogun, and he's a BLACKBELT!!) and Paulo Thiago is a feared KO artist (he knocked out Kos in the first round!).