if a challenger fights a close title fight champion should..
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Shawnd1901 said:
WilliBeamen23 said:
Not lose.... Glad they implied this with frankie vs smooth
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by this stroke of (funny) logic henderson shouldnt even have the title
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Penn would still be champ
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condrab said:
Shawnd1901 said:
WilliBeamen23 said:
Not lose.... Glad they implied this with frankie vs smooth
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by this stroke of (funny) logic henderson shouldnt even have the title
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Penn would still be champ
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Both of the Penn fights were Unanimous decisions.
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Shawnd1901 said:
WilliBeamen23 said:
There is nobody that was 100% Edgar won not 95 or 99 I'm saying 100 % and if you did your delusional
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he knocked ben down knocked him back countered him with kicks and punches im saying 1000% frankie wont hat fight
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Ben dropped Edgar with leg kicks. Just sayin....
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phoenix-mma said:
Shawnd1901 said:
WilliBeamen23 said:
There is nobody that was 100% Edgar won not 95 or 99 I'm saying 100 % and if you did your delusional
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he knocked ben down knocked him back countered him with kicks and punches im saying 1000% frankie wont hat fight
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Ben dropped Edgar with leg kicks. Just sayin....
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Yes in round one. You still have yet to note anything Ben did to win 2 other rounds.
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phoenix-mma said:
FullItalian said:
Yes in round one. You still have yet to note anything Ben did to win 2 other rounds.
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Landed more strikes & a higher % of them.
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Still going with that defence? Fightmetrics had Edgar landing more strikes and sig. strikes. So add in the knockdown, TDs, 3 mins of top control, 2 sub attempts, knockbacks, and big leg kick in the 5th, how does Ben win?
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If Edgar would've won people would argue Bendo should've won. This was a really close fight and the argument can be made for both sides, but Bendo gets the nod in this one and Frankie is going to work his way back up. I actually think this fight deserves a rematch more than their first fight, but I'm a bit happy to have someone in a lightweight tittle fight that isn't a rematch or doesn't involve Frankie.
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FullItalian said:
phoenix-mma said:
FullItalian said:
Yes in round one. You still have yet to note anything Ben did to win 2 other rounds.
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Landed more strikes & a higher % of them.
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Still going with that defence? Fightmetrics had Edgar landing more strikes and sig. strikes. So add in the knockdown, TDs, 3 mins of top control, 2 sub attempts, knockbacks, and big leg kick in the 5th, how does Ben win?
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I had Bendo winning 1, Edgar winning 2,Rounds 3 and 4 were a toss up. Edgar looks like 5 was his but Bendo landed some solid shots late and the head kick. It all depends on how judges view certain strikes. Also, like Rogan pointed out, when Edgar lands something on Bendo it looked undamaging %90 of the time. Bendo lands on Edgar and Frankies whole body shakes. YOU dont know how the judges view that.
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I say the challenger has to take the belt. If the fight is super close then the champ should stay the champ. However in past nights case specifically, Edgar took that belt. Both in effort and on the cards imo.
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phoenix-mma said:
Shawnd1901 said:
WilliBeamen23 said:
There is nobody that was 100% Edgar won not 95 or 99 I'm saying 100 % and if you did your delusional
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he knocked ben down knocked him back countered him with kicks and punches im saying 1000% frankie wont hat fight
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Ben dropped Edgar with leg kicks. Just sayin....
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Yeah, sweeping his legs under him isn't really "dropping" him.
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If Frankie Edgar disappeared from this earth, I dont think I would notice.
I'm sick of watching 50% punches, take downs that aren't followed through on the ground, submissions that he half-way goes for.
I understand position before submission, but that seems to be his style on the feet as well. Pitt-Pat before Power
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PsychoIcon said:
If Frankie Edgar disappeared from this earth, I dont think I would notice.
I'm sick of watching 50% punches, take downs that aren't followed through on the ground, submissions that he half-way goes for.
I understand position before submission, but that seems to be his style on the feet as well. Pitt-Pat before Power
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Wow. Just wow.
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Spud said:
Yeah, sweeping his legs under him isn't really "dropping" him.
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I dont consider Frankie Edgars right hand that Dropped him while Benson was on the wrong foot, and off-balanced... I consider that more of "knocked-down" as do I about the leg-kicks. Dropped, would imply that he got rocked and it probably hurt him...
I guess its nitpicking at its finest.
Spud said:
PsychoIcon said:
If Frankie Edgar disappeared from this earth, I dont think I would notice.
I'm sick of watching 50% punches, take downs that aren't followed through on the ground, submissions that he half-way goes for.
I understand position before submission, but that seems to be his style on the feet as well. Pitt-Pat before Power
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Wow. Just wow.
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Ya, I said it!
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phoenix-mma said:
FullItalian said:
Yes in round one. You still have yet to note anything Ben did to win 2 other rounds.
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Landed more strikes & a higher % of them
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oh really??
Re: if a challenger fights a close title fight champion shou
^^^Hey, I wanted Frankie to win, but getting your mouth piece knocked out is scored like a half knockdown in my book. And, because it happened Twice that I remember, a prudent judge would be like "hey this guy is giving Frankie problems, because his mouthpiece keeps getting knocked out".
I was screaming at the TV for Frankie to take him down, and at least lie on top of him for 30 seconds in order to seal the deal. He didn't do it, so I scored the fight a draw, which goes to the champ.