Originally posted by: rencapmon Date: August 12, 2011 at 10:47 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-bj-penn-and-nick-diaz-end-up-fighting.41220/
Despite the outcome of UFC 137 its almost certain that at some point they will end up fighting now that Diaz is in the UFC and BJ at WW.
So my question is, if there will be some problem since I remember Nick and Nate helping BJ for his fight with Florian or Sanchez I dont remember. And BJ has stated that he wont call a Ralph Gracie camp fighter (exept when Shields call him out)
I guess there would be no problem. But what do you think? What will be Diaz behavior approaching the fight?
Originally posted by: Portillo Date: August 13, 2011 at 12:58 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-bj-penn-and-nick-diaz-end-up-fighting.41220/
Originally posted by: MoJoJo Date: August 13, 2011 at 01:02 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-bj-penn-and-nick-diaz-end-up-fighting.41220/
Originally posted by: Portillo Date: August 13, 2011 at 01:25 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-bj-penn-and-nick-diaz-end-up-fighting.41220/
Originally posted by: Galgorian Date: August 13, 2011 at 02:31 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-bj-penn-and-nick-diaz-end-up-fighting.41220/
Originally posted by: TapEmOut Date: August 13, 2011 at 05:26 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-bj-penn-and-nick-diaz-end-up-fighting.41220/
Originally posted by: snakechamer Date: August 13, 2011 at 06:13 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-bj-penn-and-nick-diaz-end-up-fighting.41220/
Originally posted by: darcebandit Date: August 13, 2011 at 07:18 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-bj-penn-and-nick-diaz-end-up-fighting.41220/
1. Nick and Nate Diaz are Cesar Gracie fighters as is Jake Shields not Ralph.
2. They would fight no problem, I never heard of them helping BJ for the florian or sanchez fight, could be wrong though.
Originally posted by: sourpuss Date: August 13, 2011 at 08:55 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-bj-penn-and-nick-diaz-end-up-fighting.41220/
I think by now everyone knows that really depends on which BJ shows up. You can tell by his face the moment he starts his walk through the tunnels if he came to fight or not.
Diaz always comes.
Originally posted by: rencapmon Date: August 13, 2011 at 09:56 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-bj-penn-and-nick-diaz-end-up-fighting.41220/
darcebandit said:
1. Nick and Nate Diaz are Cesar Gracie fighters as is Jake Shields not Ralph.
2. They would fight no problem, I never heard of them helping BJ for the florian or sanchez fight, could be wrong though.
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1.Yeah I know its Cesar Gracie. Sorry I put it wrong.
2. Now I remember from the video below it was for the Florian fight since BJ needed sothpaw fighters that would prepare him for Florian.
Originally posted by: CF3 Date: August 13, 2011 at 01:17 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-bj-penn-and-nick-diaz-end-up-fighting.41220/
Originally posted by: BaconBits Date: August 13, 2011 at 01:24 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-bj-penn-and-nick-diaz-end-up-fighting.41220/
BJ wins, via being the much fighter in every facet of mixed martial arts.
BJ's cardio wouldn't be an issue in this fight if it were to happen. Diaz is not a wrestler who is going to lay on him and has terrible takedowns.
Originally posted by: nockyourselfout Date: August 13, 2011 at 02:06 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-bj-penn-and-nick-diaz-end-up-fighting.41220/
Originally posted by: rencapmon Date: August 13, 2011 at 03:15 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-bj-penn-and-nick-diaz-end-up-fighting.41220/
But despite of who takes it, do you think there would be something that would hold them back from fighting.
Something like Fitch-Kos (maybe not as bad as that, but you get the point).
I also remember at some point BJ was going to train again with Diaz but it didnt happened since BJ was facing Frankie Edgar at that time.
Originally posted by: RaceBannon Date: August 13, 2011 at 04:40 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-bj-penn-and-nick-diaz-end-up-fighting.41220/
I have always liked Baby J but I think his best days are behind him.
George bouncing his head off the mat multiple times may have hastened his aging process as a fighter.
I still pull for him every time.
Originally posted by: LitesOutPHX Date: August 13, 2011 at 04:56 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-bj-penn-and-nick-diaz-end-up-fighting.41220/
RaceBannon said:
I have always liked Baby J but I think his best days are behind him.
George bouncing his head off the mat multiple times may have hastened his aging process as a fighter.
I still pull for him every time.
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That GSP fight has nothing to do with his last few performances. After that loss, he went on to dominate Florian and Sanchez.
Originally posted by: RaceBannon Date: August 13, 2011 at 05:48 PM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-bj-penn-and-nick-diaz-end-up-fighting.41220/
LitesOut13 said:
RaceBannon said:
I have always liked Baby J but I think his best days are behind him.
George bouncing his head off the mat multiple times may have hastened his aging process as a fighter.
I still pull for him every time.
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That GSP fight has nothing to do with his last few performances. After that loss, he went on to dominate Florian and Sanchez.
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I am not talking about changes showing up right after the fight.
I am talking about a process that progresses over time - which is accelerated by concusive brain damage.