Originally posted by: jpaule Date: August 13, 2009 at 12:12 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-brock-couldnt-make-265-wld-ufc-create-super-hwt-class.16516/
Originally posted by: johny21 Date: August 13, 2009 at 12:17 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-brock-couldnt-make-265-wld-ufc-create-super-hwt-class.16516/
Originally posted by: jpaule Date: August 13, 2009 at 12:22 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-brock-couldnt-make-265-wld-ufc-create-super-hwt-class.16516/
Originally posted by: 7time Date: August 13, 2009 at 12:23 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-brock-couldnt-make-265-wld-ufc-create-super-hwt-class.16516/
No. Who exactly would they have him fight ? They would not sign Sapp or HMC, so again I ask, who does he fight ? Stop hating on the guy for being dominant.
Originally posted by: jpaule Date: August 13, 2009 at 12:28 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-brock-couldnt-make-265-wld-ufc-create-super-hwt-class.16516/
7time said:
No. Who exactly would they have him fight ? They would not sign Sapp or HMC, so again I ask, who does he fight ? Stop hating on the guy for being dominant.
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Not hating at all, I like Brock, and don't want to see weight become an issue. More logical solution would be no weight limit.
Originally posted by: JayMunny Date: August 13, 2009 at 12:28 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-brock-couldnt-make-265-wld-ufc-create-super-hwt-class.16516/
Originally posted by: jpaule Date: August 13, 2009 at 12:37 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-brock-couldnt-make-265-wld-ufc-create-super-hwt-class.16516/
JayMunny said:
UFC will give Brock whatever he wants.
He is the biggest draw, you either love, or hate him.
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That's exactly the point I'm trying to make.
Originally posted by: 7time Date: August 13, 2009 at 12:45 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-brock-couldnt-make-265-wld-ufc-create-super-hwt-class.16516/
What Brock wanted was the stiffest competition they could give him. So far he has dismantled them. If by no weight limit you mean lower weight limit people would be crying even more that he was beating smaller guys.
Who could he fight at SHW ?
Originally posted by: dizie Date: August 13, 2009 at 12:48 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-brock-couldnt-make-265-wld-ufc-create-super-hwt-class.16516/
jpaule said:
7time said:
No. Who exactly would they have him fight ? They would not sign Sapp or HMC, so again I ask, who does he fight ? Stop hating on the guy for being dominant.
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Not hating at all, I like Brock, and don't want to see weight become an issue. More logical solution would be no weight limit.
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206-265 is actually kinda no limit. brock is hard-working and responsible enough to always make weight.
Originally posted by: Roclawzi Date: August 13, 2009 at 12:49 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-brock-couldnt-make-265-wld-ufc-create-super-hwt-class.16516/
If he couldn't make 265, he wouldn't be in UFC. This is a dumb idea, half of the appeal of Brock to non-WWE fans is his famed work ethic and condiitioning. If he wasn't able to make his weight anymore, he wouldn't be the most popular guy for long,.
Originally posted by: kcrazy Date: August 13, 2009 at 12:49 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-brock-couldnt-make-265-wld-ufc-create-super-hwt-class.16516/
Originally posted by: Roclawzi Date: August 13, 2009 at 12:51 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-brock-couldnt-make-265-wld-ufc-create-super-hwt-class.16516/
kcrazy said:
It's rather irrelevent since he can make the weight easily. My guess is he could even get down to 250 if he really wanted to.
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He cuts around 20, doesn't he? You think he could cut 35?
Originally posted by: JayMunny Date: August 13, 2009 at 12:51 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-brock-couldnt-make-265-wld-ufc-create-super-hwt-class.16516/
Originally posted by: dizie Date: August 13, 2009 at 12:52 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-brock-couldnt-make-265-wld-ufc-create-super-hwt-class.16516/
Originally posted by: kcrazy Date: August 13, 2009 at 12:54 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-brock-couldnt-make-265-wld-ufc-create-super-hwt-class.16516/
Roclawzi said:
kcrazy said:
It's rather irrelevent since he can make the weight easily. My guess is he could even get down to 250 if he really wanted to.
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He cuts around 20, doesn't he? You think he could cut 35?
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Being a wrestler, I'm positive he can. Look at the weight Koscheck cuts, who says he can make 155 if he wants to. Alves cuts 30 which is a much higher percentage then it would be for Brock as does Sherk. I think Forrest cuts around 35ish. 30 lbs seems to be the magic number with the bigger you are the more you can cut.
Originally posted by: Marktheshark Date: August 13, 2009 at 02:58 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-brock-couldnt-make-265-wld-ufc-create-super-hwt-class.16516/
johny21 said:
either that or possibly extend the upper limit 10lbs but i cant see them not accomadating his needs
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oim pretty sure the weight classes aren;'t entirly upt o the UFC the athletic commission probably has a say in that too so idk if they could just do that at will i might be wrong just a thought
Originally posted by: Tgilb2007 Date: August 13, 2009 at 09:22 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-brock-couldnt-make-265-wld-ufc-create-super-hwt-class.16516/
Roclawzi said:
kcrazy said:
It's rather irrelevent since he can make the weight easily. My guess is he could even get down to 250 if he really wanted to.
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He cuts around 20, doesn't he? You think he could cut 35?
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IIRC, he walks at around 300lbs... so he is cutting around 35lbs now.
But I don't see him making it down to 250, and still retain his strength, and his conditioning.
Originally posted by: MistahZig Date: August 13, 2009 at 09:31 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-brock-couldnt-make-265-wld-ufc-create-super-hwt-class.16516/
Originally posted by: MikyArslan Date: August 13, 2009 at 10:15 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-brock-couldnt-make-265-wld-ufc-create-super-hwt-class.16516/
look the giant fighting in Boxing WBC Nikolay Valuev he is enourmus he is 7 ft 0 in (2.13 m) and hees weight is 300 pounds but he is not the best
in boxing a Heavyweight is from 200 pounds to unlimited pounds... but UFC will never do like this
Fedor Emelianenko fougnt Zuluzinho in Pridefc who is bigger than Lesnar... is don't mean if you are bigger you are stronger...
Lesnar will make alwais Weight no metter what he is a wrestler
Originally posted by: Leland Date: August 13, 2009 at 11:26 AM Source: https://forum.mmajunkie.com/threads/if-brock-couldnt-make-265-wld-ufc-create-super-hwt-class.16516/
Being bigger than someone is obviously going to be an advantage. If you were in fedor's shoes fighting brock, it would be a problem no matter what argument you bring. there is a 40-50 pound difference roughly. Brock Lesnar is doing exactly that, barely making weight and fighting all the HW's, not many of them can compare to his stature. Brock is very lucky to be so muscular and fit for being 265. I think alot of it has to do with him being able to be that muscular at 265 as most HW's at his weight have some flab on them. He is lean and cut. So yeah I think Lesnar has a size/strength advantage for sure, but he does train his a** off and it doing everything the legit way. Props to him for winning the title, but I don't see him going undefeated. The dude only has a few fight and is riding off of wrestling / sloppy GnP. Just a matter of time.
UFC won't make any other divisions for a while. They are having a hard time getting competition for our current champs as is.
