If Cro Cop KO's Barry, is he back?
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smfowns4 said:
Very simple question. We don't care if you think Barry knocks out Cro Cop blah blah blah. WHAT IF
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Joe Rogan will say he is... but I won't buy into it this time. Cro Cop's biggest flaw is his mental game. Skill wise, he is still dangerous, he just has a LOT of issues pulling the trigger.
smfowns4 said:
T_M_A_ said:
More importantly, who's next for HD after he mauls CC?
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Boring.
I don't know it's a tough call. If he knocks out Barry, that's one of the most feared strikers in the division. But could he take someone as big as Lesnar?
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Neither of the guys have the size to deal with the big HWs. Cain, Mir, Carwin, or Brock. All four of them are monsters in size (unless Mir gets back down to 235). Both of these guys have issues with the top 5 HWs in the UFC.
Tgilb2007 said:
smfowns4 said:
T_M_A_ said:
More importantly, who's next for HD after he mauls CC?
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Boring.
I don't know it's a tough call. If he knocks out Barry, that's one of the most feared strikers in the division. But could he take someone as big as Lesnar?
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Neither of the guys have the size to deal with the big HWs. Cain, Mir, Carwin, or Brock. All four of them are monsters in size (unless Mir gets back down to 235). Both of these guys have issues with the top 5 HWs in the UFC.
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I think Cro Cop and Barry could beat Carwin. Unlike Mir, they have some good speed and I think they could pick apart Carwin. Don't get me wrong, Carwin is good, but I think he'd have issues with quick HW's. And Mir? LOL
smfowns4 said:
I think Cro Cop and Barry could beat Carwin. Unlike Mir, they have some good speed and I think they could pick apart Carwin. Don't get me wrong, Carwin is good, but I think he'd have issues with quick HW's. And Mir? LOL
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I disagree. Carwin isn't a slow guy either. His hand speed is insane, and he doesn't need a lot of space to put someone to sleep.
And, I am not using Mir as an example of a striker. If he can get Barry or CC to the mats, he has size, speed, and technique to put it away.
Tgilb2007 said:
smfowns4 said:
I think Cro Cop and Barry could beat Carwin. Unlike Mir, they have some good speed and I think they could pick apart Carwin. Don't get me wrong, Carwin is good, but I think he'd have issues with quick HW's. And Mir? LOL
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I disagree. Carwin isn't a slow guy either. His hand speed is insane, and he doesn't need a lot of space to put someone to sleep.
And, I am not using Mir as an example of a striker. If he can get Barry or CC to the mats, he has size, speed, and technique to put it away.
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I agree Carwin has some nice hands. But I meant like footwork. Cro Crop and Barry move around a lot and I think Carwin would have trouble getting to them. And IDK about Barry, but Cro Cop has amazing takedown defense and submission defense.
People need to give up on Cro Cop returing to his pride days. Seriously, go back to Cro Cops fights in Pride. Subjectively get over how the fights end...Then realize and look at his opponents he fought. He fought guys who were not mobile and stood in front of him.
This is a bad match up for Cro Cop. He is fighting a guy who hits harder than him at this stage in the game. He if fighting a guy who is hungier.
ACOGSCOPE said:
People need to give up on Cro Cop returing to his pride days. Seriously, go back to Cro Cops fights in Pride. Subjectively get over how the fights end...Then realize and look at his opponents he fought. He fought guys who were not mobile and stood in front of him.
This is a bad match up for Cro Cop. He is fighting a guy who hits harder than him at this stage in the game.
He if fighting a guy who is hungier.
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Pat finally has the cash to eat something other than rice and ketchup :lol: .
But, in all seriousness, Barry takes this one. Younger, faster, stronger fighter. If Cro Cop loses, he should really just hang it up, and call it a career.
Tgilb2007 said:
ACOGSCOPE said:
People need to give up on Cro Cop returing to his pride days. Seriously, go back to Cro Cops fights in Pride. Subjectively get over how the fights end...Then realize and look at his opponents he fought. He fought guys who were not mobile and stood in front of him.
This is a bad match up for Cro Cop. He is fighting a guy who hits harder than him at this stage in the game.
He if fighting a guy who is hungier.
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Pat finally has the cash to eat something other than rice and ketchup :lol: .
But, in all seriousness, Barry takes this one. Younger, faster, stronger fighter. If Cro Cop loses, he should really just hang it up, and call it a career.
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I will always enjoy watching him fight mismatches in Japan. He spent half of his career fighting mismatches in Pride. He will likely go back there and continue to entertain us by destroying Jap fighters.
I'd say yes, because I expect Barry to run through him.
smfowns4 I think Cro Cop and Barry could beat Carwin. Unlike Mir, they have some good speed
and I think they could pick apart Carwin. Don't get me wrong, Carwin is good, but
I think he'd have issues with quick HW's. And Mir? LOL
You make a good point about the speed, but that's like saying my little sister is faster and more agile than I am. smfowns4 credibility: crashing.
ACOGSCOPE said:
Tgilb2007 said:
ACOGSCOPE said:
People need to give up on Cro Cop returing to his pride days. Seriously, go back to Cro Cops fights in Pride. Subjectively get over how the fights end...Then realize and look at his opponents he fought. He fought guys who were not mobile and stood in front of him.
This is a bad match up for Cro Cop. He is fighting a guy who hits harder than him at this stage in the game.
He if fighting a guy who is hungier.
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Pat finally has the cash to eat something other than rice and ketchup :lol: .
But, in all seriousness, Barry takes this one. Younger, faster, stronger fighter. If Cro Cop loses, he should really just hang it up, and call it a career.
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I will always enjoy watching him fight mismatches in Japan. He spent half of his career fighting mismatches in Pride. He will likely go back there and continue to entertain us by destroying Jap fighters.
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I don't think he wants to go back to Japan. There is a monster waiting for him there.
I don't think this fight says much about Cro Cop. At this point in his career, he's just a name for up and comers to beat. Barry should win easily, and a loss would really hurt him. I don't think Barry has much of a future in the UFC though. He's too small for the top HWs, and don't think his striking is at the level of the top LHWs.